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Brian7son posted 05-07-2008 03:41 PM ET (US)   Profile for Brian7son   Send Email to Brian7son  
Last year while at the Bimini Whaler owner's event, we were tied up at the dock at Bimini Sands, waiting to clear customs. It was very hot out and that was very little breeze. A guy in a 285 Conquest near me, pulled out a custom canvas that he had made. It went across the back of the hard top, with holes cut out to fit snugly over the rod holders, then clips to the corners of the t-top pipes. Then the corners of the rear section clipped onto the center eye hole of the outriggers, while the outriggers are in the down position (parrellel to the deck). It shaded the entire rear cockpit area at high noon. It was a very simple, very cool (no pun intended) idea. When I saw it I thought, I'm going to have one of those things made one day for my CQ.

I had my boat at the marina getting the bottom painted and a wax job and I had one of these canvas awnings made. It came out great!! I can't wait to use it during a raft off party. In Florida, in the summer, shade is priceless.

I haven't taken pictures yet. I will get some pictures later and post them for you guys.

Brian

SJUAE posted 05-07-2008 03:55 PM ET (US)     Profile for SJUAE    
I came across this by chance the other evening

I dont know if these are as nice as your design but have a look

[URL)http://www.t-topextender.com/[/URL]

regards
Steve

Brian7son posted 05-07-2008 04:04 PM ET (US)     Profile for Brian7son  Send Email to Brian7son     
Steve,

I checked out the product that you mentioned and it's pretty cool. My awning doesn't require any hardware or assembly. You need a hard top or canvas t-top and you need to have the Top-gun style (not necessarily brand) outriggers. You pull out the canvas, attach 4 clips and you're done. Botta Bing.

Brian7son posted 05-07-2008 04:45 PM ET (US)     Profile for Brian7son  Send Email to Brian7son     
Steve,

I will point out that the awning that I had made is really only for use when docked, anchored or cruising at idle speeds. The product that you pointed out could be used when running the boat fast. I cant do that with my awning.

Brian

kglinz posted 05-07-2008 08:25 PM ET (US)     Profile for kglinz  Send Email to kglinz     

Here's a picture of mine. It has PVC in the front and rear and is "arched" using Coleman dome poles. The PVC is in the front rod holders and the rod holders in the transom.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/kglinz/AKempandJohnontheboat.jpg
kglinz posted 05-07-2008 08:31 PM ET (US)     Profile for kglinz  Send Email to kglinz     
One more..... http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/kglinz/DAtWarmCreek.jpg
SJUAE posted 05-07-2008 11:18 PM ET (US)     Profile for SJUAE    
Brian

My new 210 (comming) has the T Top

I was wondering what to use the out riggers for....

I assume yours also did not cost +USD350

I guess I could have it pointing front or rear with two small ties, down to the handrailing etc

That picture of your set-up would be nice

Regards
Steve


Brian7son posted 05-08-2008 08:27 AM ET (US)     Profile for Brian7son  Send Email to Brian7son     
Here's the pics.

http://s232.photobucket.com/albums/ee75/Brian7son/?action=view& current=c1.jpg
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Brian7son posted 05-08-2008 08:34 AM ET (US)     Profile for Brian7son  Send Email to Brian7son     
kglinz, Wow, that's quite a nice set up you have! Some serious shade going on there.

Steve, My canvas guy charged me $200.00 to make this. I thought that was reasonable and I was happy with the results. Just find a canvas guy in your area, have them come out and measure and make one for you. I am very satisfied with how very simple it is to set up and take down. It takes less than 60 seconds.

Brian

jollyrog305 posted 05-08-2008 12:38 PM ET (US)     Profile for jollyrog305    
Brian,

Really cool (no pun intended) - you have inspired me. Can you explain a bit more about how it "then clips to the corners of the t-top pipes". I can see the buckles/clips, but couldn't quite make it out how they are attached. Thanks.

Brian7son posted 05-08-2008 01:18 PM ET (US)     Profile for Brian7son  Send Email to Brian7son     
jollyrog305,

On the each corner of the canvas that meets the t-top, they sewed a strap with a buckle. The same type of buckle that you find on a life jacket. You pull the strap back around the aluminum pipe (where the top of the ladder meets the roof of the t-top), buckle it, then tighten it.

Take care,

Brian

SJUAE posted 05-08-2008 04:25 PM ET (US)     Profile for SJUAE    
Brian,

Thanks for pic,s

Better than I expected around the rod holders I imagined a letter box, yours is individually cut, then your boat is a tad wider than an 210 outrage.

I was also thinking of two straps with buckles at the end to tie down to the stern, with the option to fit two tent poles to make it more rigid or am I being OTT ?

A full shot of the boat to increase the WOW factor would of finished me off

regards
Steve

contender posted 05-08-2008 05:37 PM ET (US)     Profile for contender  Send Email to contender     
Brian7son, did the same thing on my contender. I made the one end of the canvas so it fits over the four rod holders (four holes stitched) on the top of the t top. On the rear ransom of my boat I have four rod holders also, I use the two outside rod holders with alum. poles with points on them, the points fit through the canvas per brass eyelets on the out side of the canvas. On the edge of the canvas I put like a solid fiberglass rod and double over the canvas to give it an edge. Made one for the front of the boat as well. My only expense was the extra canvas and the welding of the points on the alum. poles. Its up high enough to stand under (unless you are 6'5") and large enough to cover the back of the boat, same with the front. (Also made a removal v berth for the front of my contender) Can put both of them up at the same time, makes the boat look like a giant umbrella. However, very nice to sit under and drift while downing a cold one and listening to some tunes waiting for bites...good luck
Brian7son posted 05-09-2008 08:46 AM ET (US)     Profile for Brian7son  Send Email to Brian7son     
Steve,

You could do that (add poles), like Contender did. It's a very good idea and it adds a lot of stability. The only thing that I didnt do yet is add a bungee cord to the rear corners. What I plan to do is measure the distance from the eye of the outrigger down to the aft cleats under the gunnels. Then hook bungee cords from the aft cleats to the outrigger eye when I have the canvas up. This will pull the outriggers slightly towards the sides of the boat to keep the rear section of canvas tight instead of the slight droop that it now has.

I agree that the aluminum pole idea that Contender did is a great idea. I just wanted to keep my deal real simple and I didnt want to store any extra poles, etc. on the boat. I've got so much junk that I carry around in my fish boxes now it's ridiculous.

Let's face it, kglinz has the Mac Daddy approach to this idea. He certainly has more shade by far than my set up has. He's basically got a very nice tent over the entire cockpit. However, his set up requires a little time to set up and take down and you need to store it all as well. I was looking for something really simple and quick.

RE: pics that show the entire boat with the awning, I didnt take any yet and will not be on the boat this weekend. The next time I have it set up, I'll take a picture and post it for you.

Brian

SJUAE posted 05-09-2008 03:56 PM ET (US)     Profile for SJUAE    
Brian

Yep, exactly what crossed my mind add a bungee cord/tie strap to the rear corners from the eye of the outrigger down to the aft cleats under the gunnels via the hawse pipe.

Not sure if there will be enough tension to get rid of the droop (it may pull more down than out) may be just a small coleman shock corded pole at the end between the out riggers is all thats needed.

Your right too many poles may detract from the simplicity although kglinz setup looks very professional and rigid.

I havent got my hands on my boat yet but I have a spare coleman tent fly sheet. I may jury rig this with some velcro/elastic toggles and bungee cords as a first try.

Have to do this as the Mrs liked the shade from the canvas top but I convinced her of the T-Top plus all the other pre-loaded goodies was better of the two outrages we looked at.

regards
Steve

Bella con23 posted 05-09-2008 04:23 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bella con23  Send Email to Bella con23     
Brian,
I like the idea of using the outriggers for shade. To add to this concept, I would like to have the ability to flip the outriggers skyward and catch a breeze during those periods of slack tide while drift fishing.

You've go my wheels turning. Maybe I could run cord from the top of the outriggers to the bow and stern cleats for added support.

I let you know how it works out.
Joe

contender posted 05-09-2008 05:23 PM ET (US)     Profile for contender  Send Email to contender     
Brian7son better to make/use straps than bungee cords, You can make one end of the strap with a loop to go around a cleat then tighten as needed. Also two things bad about bungee cords, they wear out quicker and had a friend pulling on one it snapped and the metal clip caught him in the eye (no lie) and yes he lost his eye. The clips I'm talking about are only about 1 inch and any canvas shop can make them to any length. The other good thing about the straps once you set your canvas up you can have the straps sewn in place now it makes it a one piece operation. You can now fold the canvas up and with two extra poles its not a lot of equipment to store on board. Its is really an easy set up and easy to set up less than two minutes time....good luck
castnover posted 05-09-2008 10:38 PM ET (US)     Profile for castnover  Send Email to castnover     
Very nice i might try that on my conquest Brovo
SJUAE posted 05-10-2008 02:41 AM ET (US)     Profile for SJUAE    
Brian

Diagram of the summation of our thoughts for my Outrage

http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/4840/sunshadevx4.jpg

Regards
Steve

Brian7son posted 05-12-2008 08:38 AM ET (US)     Profile for Brian7son  Send Email to Brian7son     
Steve,

Nice diagram. I would also take Contender's advice and go with the straps in the rear, rather than bungee cords.

Bella con23,

Personally, I'd be a little leary about rigging the canvas as a sail with my outriggers. Remember, those things(outriggers) are designed to hold a clip that pops the line out when trolling with very little pressure. If you had them in the up position and a strong gust of wind came along, it could damage one of both of your outriggers.

Brian

Brian7son posted 05-12-2008 08:46 AM ET (US)     Profile for Brian7son  Send Email to Brian7son     
Bella con23,

You did mention doing this in slack tide. So maybe you'd be OK. With my luck a gust would come along and snap off one of my riggers.

Brian

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