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paddyt111 posted 05-23-2008 05:00 PM ET (US)   Profile for paddyt111   Send Email to paddyt111  
As promised, I said I would report on my first trip in my newly acquired 20 Ventura. For those who haven't read my past posts, I bought this 2005 BW in Sanibel Florida and had it trailered to Newfoundland Canada. I used the boat for the first time in Newfoundland this past weekend. I have lots to tell you about.

Here are the photos of the weekend.

Handling in different conditions
I bought a Ventura for one main reason, because I wanted a portable BLUEWATER boat. Most everything I looked seemed to pale in comparison. The Boarton Whaler seemed focused on this mission. The water conditions change very quickly here off Newfoundland and the water temperature tops out at about 43 degrees so having a boat that is portable and is up to the task of blue water was imperative to me
I experienced a variety of sea conditions during my first weekend; from dead calm to 3 to 5 ft seas. The boat handled beautifully. If I was to draw a comparison, it was like driving a Suburban on the water. Big, strong, steady and unlike any boat I’ve ever ridden. Early the second morning, a friend and I set out for a small cove at the top of the bay, about 7 miles out. As we ventured further out the bay towards the open North Atlantic, the waves and swells were noticeably larger. I thought this was a great place to experiment with the trim tabs. I had received a lot of advice from people here on this forum; time to put this new found knowledge to good use. I kept the engine trimmed out and used the trim tabs to direct the bow into the oncoming seas. The tabs made a significant difference by keeping the bow slicing through the water and preventing the boat from being sloppy. I’m sure I have a lot to learn about the best use of trim tabs but my first experiment was a positive one. The other thing that struck me was how the weight of the Ventura kept the boat from rolling; in fact there was none, something that impressed me. I also like how the windshield in the Ventura kept the wind out of the cockpit keeping us from freezing to death. The way the Ventura is configured, you have lots of options to control the wind, especially if your passengers are not dressed as warmly as you may be. Not a concern for you Florida guys!

Engine Speed and RPM's
My Ventura is equipped with a 225 Gen l Mercury Verado. What a monster! I was very thrilled on how the Verado needed just a little prodding from the throttle to jump up on plane. The increase in speed was smooth, strong and confident. You felt the comfort of the boat’s weight as the thrust from the motor powered her onto plane. I’d expect that this boat would work well if it was under powered.
At 4500 rpms, with the engine trimmed I was doing 32mph
At 5900/6000 rpms with engine trimmed way out I just reached 44mph. Bimini top was up, 50 gal of gas three light adults
I did have an alarm on the engine. The Smart gauges reported that the engine was running hot. I stopped and turned off the engine. I started it again, checked to see if anything was blocking the water intake (nothing was) and everything appeared to be OK. Not sure what the story was…

My trailer
During the weekend, I had some trouble loading the boat onto the trailer. Saturday night I posted my problem on this forum. Several of the guys said I needed to put the boat further out into the water. Glad to solved the problem. It is a 4000 lb boat and needs to be floated on rather than winched on. Great experience.

A side experience
The kids and I arrived at the dock looking forward to our first ride. Two of them reported they had forgotten their life jackets in the truck. I went back to get them and came back with an armload of Lifejackets. While jumping back onto the boat, I dropped my car/house/business and boat trailer lock keys into 15' of water between the boat and the dock. FYI , I did have my BOAT keys on a floater. How many of you keep your car keys on a floater?? I spend six hours cutting away kelp and using a mask plus a pipe with a fishing hook attached in retrieving my keys. I'm glad to report that my electronic Volkswagon key still works after it sitting in the salt water for 30 hours (leave it to the Germans but my remote starter for my Suburban was toast!!)

In closing, I am a happy guy and thankful to all the people who continue to share their knowledge with me. Cheers, Pat

boatdryver posted 05-23-2008 05:46 PM ET (US)     Profile for boatdryver  Send Email to boatdryver     
Paddy, that's a great choice of boat for those waters. The photos remind me of my miles of cruising in British Columbia. You are one lucky guy.


bluewaterpirate posted 05-23-2008 07:28 PM ET (US)     Profile for bluewaterpirate  Send Email to bluewaterpirate     
You got a great boat that will serve you well fro years to come. Great report.


Casco Bay Outrage posted 05-23-2008 11:18 PM ET (US)     Profile for Casco Bay Outrage  Send Email to Casco Bay Outrage     
She looks very happy in her new home. Looks like you're having fun too.

Good for you!

tombro posted 05-24-2008 06:01 AM ET (US)     Profile for tombro  Send Email to tombro     
Great story and pics. I am off to enjoy some Striper trolling in ours right now.
tonyj1 posted 05-24-2008 09:32 AM ET (US)     Profile for tonyj1  Send Email to tonyj1     

Great post.
I take delivery of my 210 Ventura next weekend. It's going to be a long week!

I had a temp alarm on my 135 Verado last year also. I think some lake weed blocked the water intake and dislodged when I stopped the motor and tilted it up (saw it floating at the stern). Motor has run fine since.

Also went key diving in the past too. Whaler key float is best two bucks I spent.....Just traded in 180 Dauntless dealer is NOT getting float.


paddyt111 posted 05-24-2008 01:40 PM ET (US)     Profile for paddyt111  Send Email to paddyt111     
Tony, I have the same float, except it was on my boat keys and not on the car keys. I'll know better next time. I'll be keen to know your impressions of the Ventura. I certainly was impressed.

Did you order the weather curtains? The problem from my side is that I am only likely to use them in foul "cold" weather. I tried putting them up in cold weather, I ripped my hands up. They are stiff as hell in the cold. Again, just fine in Florida where cold is above 60 degrees :)

mattrix posted 05-27-2008 08:22 AM ET (US)     Profile for mattrix  Send Email to mattrix     
Enjoy! She is a beauty and those are some gorgeous cruising grounds, I bet you are the only boat on the water with FL registration on the side :)
HAPPYJIM posted 05-30-2008 02:26 AM ET (US)     Profile for HAPPYJIM  Send Email to HAPPYJIM     
The pictures look great. The one of you and your boys tells the story. Now we need some pictures of your first cod harvest.
alfred posted 05-30-2008 06:13 AM ET (US)     Profile for alfred  Send Email to alfred     
Congrats! Thanks for the report.

Take the battery out of the Suburban key, flush with fresh water and dry it out in the sun and/or a hair drier and leave somewhere dry for another day or so, load the battery and try again. Might work. Don't even ask how I know!

paddyt111 posted 05-31-2008 12:47 AM ET (US)     Profile for paddyt111  Send Email to paddyt111     
Alfred, I'll try the battery removal recommendation and see what happens. It sounds as if you speak from experience...As for the cod fishing pictures, I'll be sure to post pics of the 10 and 20 lb cod being land on the deck of the Ventura. Thank god for the freshwater shower!!

The boys and I have really enjoyed the boat so far, we'd like to think there is a little North Atlantic saltwater in our veins. Pat

alfred posted 05-31-2008 08:21 AM ET (US)     Profile for alfred  Send Email to alfred     
Don't know if it will still work, but if you remove the battery straight away it has a chance. Lucky for me it's still working.

I now have a key float with a quick clip in the glove box, so when I am walking to the boat, I clip it straight on.

Once bitten ........

95Outrage17 posted 06-01-2008 09:59 PM ET (US)     Profile for 95Outrage17  Send Email to 95Outrage17     
Hi Pat,

Looks like you're having lots of fun with the Whaler already! I hope it serves you well for many years ahead. I finally got my Outrage in the water this evening. I had it in the garage this afternoon, with the door open, while I waxed and watched the sun come out on the bay. I HAD to get it in and I'm glad I did :) Launched and delivered my neighbour's Montauk yesterday... It's been a Whaler weekend!

- Chris

paddyt111 posted 06-03-2008 04:40 AM ET (US)     Profile for paddyt111  Send Email to paddyt111     
Great news Chris. I will post more photos the next time I'm out. The kids are studying for exams so the boat is off limits for a couple of weeks.I'm sure all you Dads understand!

I'll use the time to have my new GPS installed. Do you feel I need an external antenna?

tombro posted 06-03-2008 07:45 AM ET (US)     Profile for tombro  Send Email to tombro     
Paddy, down here in New Jersey, my GPS antenna was dealer mounted inside the top front of the starboard console and works fine, FWIW.
paddyt111 posted 06-03-2008 01:24 PM ET (US)     Profile for paddyt111  Send Email to paddyt111     
Thanks, I'll pass on the info to him today. Paddy
V210 posted 07-12-2008 07:33 AM ET (US)     Profile for V210  Send Email to V210     
Thanks for the rundown of your expereiences. I am in the third season of using my V210 on the Atlantic off of New Jersey and I've felt safe and equipped in all circumstances. I can't figure out why we don't see more of this model on the water!?! Q - I experience water occasionally spouting from the fresh water washdown connector when it is closed and the engine is running (Verado 225, gen I), it also trickles water when running, do you experience the same?
tombro posted 07-12-2008 07:58 PM ET (US)     Profile for tombro  Send Email to tombro     
V210--No problems with my FW system, and I am in the 4th summer of fairly heavy use. You've got to keep the filter clean and use something to freshen the tank, though. I'm still experimenting with the freshening part, as none of my other boats had a FW (or a SW) washdown.
paddyt111 posted 07-13-2008 10:43 PM ET (US)     Profile for paddyt111  Send Email to paddyt111     
Can't say I've seen any water coming from the FW although it always did on my last boat (Bayliner).

Spray in the Face
Here's something I've noticed and would be interested in what you guys think. I am finding some of the North Atlantic spray can be a little cold on the face when it gets a little rough. My wife (who unfortunately is seldom out with me) dislikes it as well. I'm not anxious to put up the complete set of weather covers as I start to feel a little closed in plus my vision is distorted; in my opinion plastic never made a great windshield. I was thinking I might put up the side curtains and leave the front ones off, what do you think? Will it alleviate most of the spray? It stands to reason, if you hit a wave and you are moving forward, you're likely to get the spray from the side and not front on.

This is an update album of photos from the Ventura on a couple of great trips off Newfoundland

nemored posted 07-14-2008 12:35 AM ET (US)     Profile for nemored  Send Email to nemored     
I would try just the side curtains because most of the spray in wind carried that would hit you from the side. My 21 Conquest really only gets spray form the sides.

By the way, I checked your pictures and I tow with the exact rig you have (white 2008 Sequoia) . I love that back up camera to put the ball right under the hitch!

Good boating.

paddyt111 posted 07-14-2008 06:07 AM ET (US)     Profile for paddyt111  Send Email to paddyt111     
nemored..The camera drives everyone crazy. I had an old fella come right up to the truck the other day and say that was the finest piece of backing up he had ever seen. I smiled and showed him the camera. He smiled and told me to never tell any one about the camera and just tell folks I use the rear view mirror in conjunction with the side mirrors.

Regarding your Conquest, are you happy with her? I was seriously considering her. The deciding factor was my kids wanting to ride in the bow. Pat

nemored posted 07-14-2008 10:56 AM ET (US)     Profile for nemored  Send Email to nemored     
We will keep our camera a secret since no one reads this stuff!!!!!!

I sold my Montauk 19 for that reason. My girls wanted to get out of the weather and have a porta potty. We live on the Oregon Coast were it is cold and windy much of the time, so it was the boat for me. It was ten years old but was in great condition. I put a new honda 225 on it and Scotty Electric downriggers. I now have a family boat and a Salmon/Tuna boat all in one.

paddyt111 posted 07-15-2008 10:19 PM ET (US)     Profile for paddyt111  Send Email to paddyt111     
225 Honda....nice engine! Mine is a 225 Verado (2005). What is your top speed with a that engine? I top out at 46MPH with the engine tilted within an inch of its life. I can comfortably hit 43/44, above that I have to push it. Incidentally, do you have an auxiliary? My wife is on me to consider one. I'm worried about having to use the trim tabs all the time
nemored posted 07-15-2008 11:16 PM ET (US)     Profile for nemored  Send Email to nemored     
I have not open it up yet since It's still on break in. I expect to top out somewhere above 40mph.

I'm in the process of putting a Honda 20hp on it to troll for Salmon and be a back up. It already had a bracket on the starboard side.

paddyt111 posted 07-16-2008 07:06 AM ET (US)     Profile for paddyt111  Send Email to paddyt111     
Wow...a 20hp! I have a few questions....Do you have trim tabs? Does the weight on one side affect the boat at all? Do you have the engine plumbed into the main tank or do you carry an independent tank? If so did you have it done yourself? It would be great to see a photo the the bracket and how you have it laid out. Pat
nemored posted 07-17-2008 12:26 AM ET (US)     Profile for nemored  Send Email to nemored     
I have trim tabs. They do not get in the way of the ladder or the bracket because they are inside of them. Honda guys put the stuff on. The 20 feeds of the main tank but goes through a water separator (located under the rear starboard seat). Both motors then feed off the water separator. There is a lever at the separator the cuts the gas to the 20 so you do not get any air in the main line. I did not have a working camera, but when I do will let you know. The bracket was custom made by the previous owner . It is Stainless and is mounted on the flat are on the starboard transom.

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