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JoeyP posted 05-26-2008 03:08 PM ET (US)   Profile for JoeyP   Send Email to JoeyP  
I just splashed my new 190 Outrage on Saturday. What a difference compared to my 05 Montauk. The ride is by far smoother and dryer. The 150 Verado with DTS is very nice and I have to get used to that DTS throttle, it moves with little or no resistance. The extra storage over the Montauk is nice too, there seems to be a place for everything.

I gave it a good ride in a stiff southeast chop on Sunday and yes the tabs were worth it. The 150 Verado pushes the boat with ease as it plains right away. One caveat though, there was some noticeable engine vibration between 2700-3000 rpms, not sure if that is normal or not – anybody else experience this? Otherwise, it's great boat and I'm glad I switched up from Montauk.

Here are some before and after pics: Prepphoto2-bucket.jpg Prepphoto1-Bucket.jpg Photo2-Bucket.jpg Photo1-Bucket.jpg

Sal A posted 05-26-2008 04:25 PM ET (US)     Profile for Sal A  Send Email to Sal A     
Congratulations and fair winds to you!

It is a great boat; I had one a few years back. I was always amazed how much room it had for a 19 foot boat; I still swear that it has just as much as room as the larger euro-transom Outrages.

I am also amazed by the responsiveness of my new DTS throttle. Again, best of luck to you, and I hope to see you on the water.

SJUAE posted 05-26-2008 05:04 PM ET (US)     Profile for SJUAE    

Sal may be right you loose a good 6” with the euro transom as there’s a step behind it.

I hope to finally get my new 210 in the water this weekend, well at least for a test run as coast guard application takes weeks here.

Any chance of a close up pic of the console forward tackle box hatch catch as it looks different to my one, it’s just a push to release, you have a tab to pull tab I think.

Sorry Merc DTS is to expensive here went ETEC 200HO route with a stock binnacle, so not as sexy as yours.

I like the 180 leaning post on those pedestal there is something chunky about it

I guess a mills top is next on the agenda for those grey skys :)


glen e posted 05-26-2008 05:43 PM ET (US)     Profile for glen e  Send Email to glen e     
you can make the DTS throttle lever as hard or easy to move as you want - just adjust per the owner's manul...
Bulldog posted 05-26-2008 06:57 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bulldog  Send Email to Bulldog     
Nice boat, I think that the 19' Outrage or Nantucket is a boat that really has the Whaler look and is a solid design. Henry ("Yiddil" on CW), bought an aftermarket seat back for his 19' Nantucket which looks great. I know you have had the boat one day and I'm telling you to spend money. Enjoy!....Jack
wmeier posted 05-26-2008 09:24 PM ET (US)     Profile for wmeier  Send Email to wmeier's a nice boat. We have been very pleased with our Outrage 190 so far. To answer your question between 2700 to 3000rpm the boat is not smooth till it get up on the plane
and levels out...about 3000-3200rpm.
Yiddil posted 05-26-2008 09:31 PM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil  Send Email to Yiddil     
Congrates on your new Nantucket/ deal you ever made. Good luck and fair dseas to you:) Now all you have to do is get all the excessories...multiple canvas packages, covers, seat back, forward lounge and forward bow dodger:)etc etc etc..Yes, spend more money:) hehe. You only go around once. Congrates again:) Henry AKA THE YIDDIL

alfred posted 05-26-2008 10:51 PM ET (US)     Profile for alfred  Send Email to alfred     
Looks Great! Hope you have a great summer with it.
highanddry posted 05-27-2008 01:03 AM ET (US)     Profile for highanddry  Send Email to highanddry     
It is very noticeable that it sits lower in the back than our Opti 150 Nantucket.
aubv posted 05-27-2008 09:06 AM ET (US)     Profile for aubv  Send Email to aubv     
Hi JoeyP,

Great to see you took delivery of your new boat. Hope you get to put lots of hours on the water this season. Your middle name isn't SalA by chance?? Not that I should talk!

Are you going to keep it in the water or on a trailer?

highanddry posted 05-27-2008 09:35 AM ET (US)     Profile for highanddry  Send Email to highanddry     
Yes, the lack of the horrid "euro" transom is one of the things that make this skiff so classic looking. That combined with the sloping but otherwise straight sheer line add to it's jaunty but nautical appearence. As far as I am concerned it is one of the best looking Whalers ever built save for the old Montauk which epitomizes the "Whaler" look.

I was in central Florida over the weekend and stopped by a Whaler dealer. I finally got to view the 190 Outrage on a trailer sitting exactly side by side with the Montauk 190. The Outrage is noticeably deeper, the stearn is taller and there is more deadrise and there is more freeboard. The "finished" gunwale cap of the Outrage adds to the solid look and may contribute to the rock sold feel of the Outrage. The console is larger and seems taller and better proportioned for adding equipemnt and the position of the tilt destroyer wheel felt better to me. There may be a little more room up front in the Montauk 190. Thew Outrage was rigged with Verado 150 and the Montauk with the Verado 135. Those are huge engines, somewhat out of proportion for those of us more accustomed to two strokes. Finally any doubts I had concerning my decision today--to do again--Montauk 190 vs Outrage 190--the Outrage is hands down the winner from my vantage. Better yet the Montauk 190 now sells for more than the Nantuket 190. Wow, such a deal.

The trailer both boats were sitting on i much improved over the trailer that came with our Nantucket "Legend Series value" package.

wmeier posted 05-27-2008 10:45 AM ET (US)     Profile for wmeier  Send Email to wmeier     
I have already congrat you on your new boat...I just thought that I might pass a along a few comments that I have since taking delivery of my Outrage 190 this spring.

1)Anchor in the forward locker...I notice a few minor scrapping marks from the anchor being bounce around in this locker. I have wrapped a towel around the anchor and placed an extra throw cushion I had in the locker to prevent any more damage to the locker gel coat.

2)Forward locker tend to get and stay wet. The drain is in the bottom but not effective. I would have thought a better design would have been a drain back to the bilge area. The anchor line tends to stay wet which is not ideal for long term storage.

3) The inside edge of the gunwale had one small chip that occured before delivery which the dealer will fix in due course. However I noticed another small one yesterday. I think the sharp edge may have a tendacy to get chip from anything (hose nozle or items being taken in/out of the storage racks (fishing poles)). I'm thinking if I can find a rubber/plastis U channel to run along the edge to protect it from any more damage.

I really love the boat but thought you might find above comments useful to protect your new investment rather then finding out the hard way.

highanddry posted 05-27-2008 11:30 AM ET (US)     Profile for highanddry  Send Email to highanddry     
Get a plastic bucket from Home depot etc. Drill a hole in the bottom for drainage and notche the sides to hold the anchor. Run the rode into the bucket, set the anchor on top in the notches. Put a piece of Dri-Deck in the bottom of the locker. You can put a plug in the drain if you wish.
CLK posted 05-27-2008 12:18 PM ET (US)     Profile for CLK    
Congrats on your new boat - She's a Beaut!


JoeyP posted 05-28-2008 12:15 PM ET (US)     Profile for JoeyP  Send Email to JoeyP     
Thanks all for the comments. I am very pleased with this boat. It's hard to believe that it was once sold with a 115 hp four stroke, that 150 is more than enough.

That pic shows the boat with a full tank of gas and it does sit low in the water compared to one with a 150 optimax.

Finally, if anyone knows where I can get that aftermarket seat back please let me know.

AUBV, yeah I know it seems like I keep flipping boats but at least they are always BW's. I think I will hold on to this one for a while though.

Casco Bay Outrage posted 05-28-2008 01:57 PM ET (US)     Profile for Casco Bay Outrage  Send Email to Casco Bay Outrage     
Here is Henry's (a.k.a. The Yiddil) post

Can't find his thread with the photos. Email him.


Kencvit posted 05-30-2008 12:45 PM ET (US)     Profile for Kencvit  Send Email to Kencvit     

JoeyP posted 06-03-2008 08:53 PM ET (US)     Profile for JoeyP  Send Email to JoeyP     
Thanks, I'm going to contact them next week. That backrest looks great.
Yiddil posted 06-04-2008 12:54 AM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil  Send Email to Yiddil     
Joey, youl be glad you did:)
wmeier posted 06-05-2008 09:10 AM ET (US)     Profile for wmeier  Send Email to wmeier     
Joey, if you don't mind sharing I would like to know what they charge for the back rest. By the way I just priced a forward dodger and was given an estimate of $1700 install by a local dealer....making Mills looking like a great deal for about $1000. I plan on doing both very soon.

The idea for using a bucket to store the anchor works great. Thanks to the group for the suggestion.

JoeyP posted 06-09-2008 11:53 AM ET (US)     Profile for JoeyP  Send Email to JoeyP     
I just spoke with Dean at Birdsallmarine this morning and ordered that backrest. There was a price increase last October so the cost is now $310.00 plus shipping.

Thanks for info. Your invoice info made it simple. What about shortening the posts by 2 inches? Do you feel it's needed? Dean said he will do it, I just have to let him know by the end of the week. Thanks.

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