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onlyawhaler posted 07-31-2008 11:17 PM ET (US)   Profile for onlyawhaler   Send Email to onlyawhaler  
[Seeks] any feedback from anyone who has put a Yamaha F225 on their 1996 to 1999 Outrage 20. How does it perform at getting on plane. [What is the boat speed at] WOT? Is [the Yamaha F225] heavy enough to push the scuppers under water?

Thanks for any answers


dnh posted 08-06-2008 10:19 PM ET (US)     Profile for dnh  Send Email to dnh     
I don't have one but talked to someone who has one here in Charleston. My two cents: need tabs; mount so motor is up in highest position possible; use 21p prop; get an F250 instead, its $500 more and only weighs about 17-lbs more (as I recall).

I have the setup described above on a 1995 Outrage 21 and could not be happier with the performance. It will fly and it gets up out of the hole quicker than my 15, hands down.

20dauntless posted 08-07-2008 05:17 PM ET (US)     Profile for 20dauntless  Send Email to 20dauntless     
I have a 1996 20 Dauntless which is the same hull. We have it powered with a 1997 200-HP [unrecognized acronym]. For many years we had a 9.9 high thrust kicker as well, but never used it and when the mount broke we got rid of the engine.

Anyway, both of those engines combined weighed about the same as a single F225 and the boat handled fine. If we had a lot of weight in the stern I would put in some scupper plugs. We don't have tabs, and noticed that more down trim was required to avoid porpoising and get on plane. I'd install the F225 (I would love to go for the 250, but wouldn't want to deal with the hassle of being overpowered) and trim tabs and you'll have one sweet setup.

onlyawhaler posted 08-11-2008 09:40 PM ET (US)     Profile for onlyawhaler  Send Email to onlyawhaler     
Thanks for the input.

I really like the OX66 225 that I have on there. It is a bit noisy which isn't a big deal. Great power for getting on plane. It has lower hours and will probably last a long time.

The reason I ask is that Lake Powell in Utah (a federal lake) has been rumored to be considering all outboards to be 3 star rated in the future. Like a future Lake Tahoe situation. The local marinas down there are mostly Mercury and sell only four-cycyle motors that are 3 star rated.

I like boating there and don't want to get caught not being able to go with a non rated EFI motor. I am considering selling the OX66 while it still has value and making a change


jimh posted 08-15-2008 08:47 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
I concur with the preference for the F250 over the F225. The cost difference is insignificant. You get variable valve timing on the F250. This should produce better low-end power. I think the motors are physically the same size.
20dauntless posted 08-15-2008 10:46 AM ET (US)     Profile for 20dauntless  Send Email to 20dauntless     
At least on the Dauntless 20 the maximum horsepower rating is 225. Perhaps it is different on the Outrage, and even if it wasn't you could overpower if you wanted, but it would probably be more difficult to find a dealer to install and find insurance.
onlyawhaler posted 08-15-2008 09:30 PM ET (US)     Profile for onlyawhaler  Send Email to onlyawhaler     
I would love a 250 with the variable came timing. I just don't want to go through the overlimit issue. In boats sold locally it is common to see transoms with the max hp engine option because of the loss of performance at altitude which starts at 4000 ft and goes higher.

Yamaha makes the F225 in a variable came timing version called a sport model. It is currently available in only a 20 inch shaft. If it is produced in a 25 inch shaft in the future, I would go for it.


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