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Considering purchasing a 150 Montauk
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posted 08-02-2008 08:14 PM ET (US)
I'm considering purchasing a new 2008 150 Montauk - to be used on a large lake(Lk Washington, Seattle, WA.) for running around in, & doing some panfish fishing (crappie, bass, perch, etc). Lk Washington is also conneted to smaller bays & lakes (Portige Bay & Lk Union) which a smaller boat would be excellent for. I already have a bigger boat (345CQ) for saltwater & downrigger fishing, long trips & rough seas. But I think it would be nice to have a smaller boat to explore with, & to zip & putt around in.
I'd be interested in hearing what anyone have to say - particulary owners of the 150 Montauk. The boat I'm looking at comes with the 60 ELPT EFI BigFoot Four Stroke Mercury® engine STD. Has the fishing package & calvinized trailer. I'd be keeping it in a wet slip at the same marina as my other boat (so I won't need the trailer). No bimini (which I'll have to add), no livewell (don't mind), no bow rail or bow cushion (don't mind). I'd get the canvas console & seat covers. Has the classic red graphics.
Appreciate any feedback.
posted 08-02-2008 09:02 PM ET (US)
Also, I'd like to get some feedback on the idea of owning 2 boats (different type/size/fuctionality) at the same time.
posted 08-02-2008 10:30 PM ET (US)
CLK - You obviously are into the 'Whaler' fold. Ain't it great? Get the trailer. The ability to tow that rig to other popular boating spots in the Pacific NW (salt water and fresh water) will greatly increase your use and enjoyment.
As to the idea of owning 2 boats. You can only use one at a time. In your case, each will have specific and not necessarily overlapping applications. Go for it.
posted 08-03-2008 07:01 AM ET (US)
You definitely jump in with both feet. I thought I was bad; am I correct in that you got a 305 in May, and a 345 in July? Anyhow, I have two Whalers: my 205 Conquest and my 130 Sport. I have kids, and the 130 Sport is just a fun, simple boat. The kids use it all the time, as do I. Yesterday I outran a thunderstorm with my daughter aboard the 130 Sport, and our hair was horizontal. Woooo hooooo!
The small boats are negligible in their maintenance demands. I beach the boat every few weeks to clean the underside, and pull her in the winter for regular offseason layup work. Both my boats are slipped outside my back door.
It seems that you will have you boats both slipped as well, at the marina near your home. The storing of the trailer is a pain, the bottom painting is a pain, but I bet the small boat will be more fun for you than the big one!
posted 08-03-2008 07:03 AM ET (US)
Oh, Jkcam is a forum member here who owns a 150 Montauk; maybe he can chime in on his experiences. I know he is selling his.
posted 08-03-2008 12:58 PM ET (US)
>>>You definitely jump in with both feet. I thought I was bad; am I correct in that you got a 305 in May, and a 345 in July?
LOL! Yep - Thanks correct. Interestingly, While going through this, I thought of your dealings, too.
But that's not all of it - it's worse. In April, I bought a 210 Outrage w/ a Verado 225 on the back. The boat came w/ the pedestal seats, which I didn't mind, but I wanted the livewell option. The livewell option only comes with the bench helm seat. So, I bought the boat & had the helm bench/livewell ordered. While having the boat rigged & waiting for the bench to come in, I realized that I would want a bigger boat (for extended trips). Unfortunately, this chapter ends with me trading in the 210OR for the 305CQ, without ever splashing it (the 210).
Below are som pics of the 210OR:
Thanks for the input about having 2 boats - I appreciate it. Also, great pics!
posted 08-03-2008 01:03 PM ET (US)
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posted 08-03-2008 03:13 PM ET (US)
I had two whalers; an Eastport and Montauk 170.
posted 08-03-2008 03:34 PM ET (US)
I always wondered why you said you liked the 210 even though you had a 305 at the time and now the 345, just as well there is nothing bigger.
Is there anything else you want to confess like you’re an insurance salesman or a stamp collector :)
I like the look of the 150 as it seems like a mini 190/210
posted 08-03-2008 07:57 PM ET (US)
>>>You obviously are into the 'Whaler' fold. Ain't it great?
Yep - I'm all in & loving it!
>>>Get the trailer.
Spoke w/ the dealership today - they said they'd store it for me - pretty cool.
Hey Gorji - Thanks for the feedback!
>>>I always wondered why you said you liked the 210 even though you had a 305 at the time,....
Yep - To quote myself, I said, "I love the 210 Outrage. In fact, that was my first choice (literally, believe me!)".
>>>Is there anything else you want to confess like you’re an insurance salesman or a stamp collector :)
Not an insurance salesman, but I am a rare book collector.
posted 08-04-2008 08:59 AM ET (US)
I have an 06 150 Montalk that I purchased used from Clews & Strawbridge last November. It came with railings, bow and side, fishing package, live well, bimini, swim ladder, bow cushion. I keep it in a slip near ocean city maryland.
I can go out all day, tubing, fishing etc and not go through a tank of gas (6.6 gallons) that is the best thing about it.
Now for the not so good. It rides like crap, there is alot of other boat traffic and I have to slow way down and almost come down off a plane to cross other wakes, wind chop over 1' will beat you senseless. I like to go fishing in the ocean on calm days, it does not have enough power to keep you out of trouble.
I do plan on getting a bigger whaler in the near future, but I will keep my 15' for my kids to use.
posted 08-05-2008 12:35 AM ET (US)
Thanks for the good, bad & ugly.
There's plenty that I already like about the boat - so at this point - I'm more interested in the possible negatives.
Also, do you like the bow rails? Do you find them cumbersome. I personally like the look & saftey of them.
How about the livewell? I wouldn't use it for live bait (illegal in my state), but for storage/extra seat.
The boat available at the dealership doesn't have a bow rail, livewell or sun top. I'm going to want a sun top - That I can order or get aftermarket. The other options I'm not sure about, but if I do want them, it will simply mean I order a boat instead.
Any othe thoughts appreciated.
posted 08-05-2008 11:47 AM ET (US)
I like the bow rail, my kids are 8 and 10 years old, and I do take the boat out in seas that would swamp an ordinary 15 footer. It can be cumbersome to get the anchor out with the bow cushon and bow rail, but I would not do with out either.
I use my live will for storage, but it does fill with water during heavy rain. I keep one of those hand operated thirsty mate bilge pumps to pump it out. So I keep the tow rope for tubing in it, spare mooring lines, and other stuff I dont mind getting wet. My son likes to put his tackle box and gulp alive bait in it, but he does not keep them stored there. Also storage under the console is a little limited, so I like having the extra space.
I am of Irish heritage, so the bimini is a must. But the top does require a mounting point in the space between the bow and side rails. If the top is up, and you tie up at a restaurant, you need to climb over the rails to get in and out of the boat. I think it was made by Mills Canvas.
I stand up when operate it, with the seat back pivoted all the way forward, it can be hard on the knees with the pounding. If the top is up, and I am standing, the rear visiblity is somewhat obstructed. The bay I use the boat in gets a little busy, so I like to be on the look out for the 35 foot sport fisherman that wants to pass me in the channel.
Overall it is alot of boat for a 15 footer, it has a wider beam than the older Montalk 17. It is very stable when stopped, and I have taken it out (25+ knot winds) when my friend has refused to take out his 20' Carolina Skiff. Best of all it gets 8 MPG at 4000 RPM.
Let me know if you have any more questions,
posted 08-06-2008 11:58 AM ET (US)
Thanks for the great info - I appreciate it.
Hadn't really thought about the mounting of the sun top + the side & bow rails - as you described with the top deployed - could make getting in & out less convenient.
Although I'm not irish - I am from Seattle, so a top is a must.
posted 08-07-2008 06:02 PM ET (US)
I have a 2007 150 Montauk that I use here in Southern California for bay, harbor, and near shore saltwater fishing. I love it. Stable, economical and fun. The 60 bigfoot gets me up to 33 mph when conditions permit. People can not believe how efficient the 4 stroke is, as gas consumption is negligable compared to other rides. I have the bow rails and believe they are well worth it as a safety factor. I took delivery of the boat without the livewell and had a round aftermarket bait tank installed using the factory plumbing. This gave me a bait tank plus significantly more deck space. Best of all I mounted a trolling motor on the cavitation plate of the Bigfoot and ran the power/control cabels through the rigging tube below deck to the center console battery and mounted the speed control next to the steering wheel. No up and down with the trolling motor, no deck space taken up, everything can be done seated at the wheel. The unit on the motor rides out of the water on plane. It is difficult for me to find any negatives and asked if knowing what I know now after a year of use, whould I buy the 150 Montauk again, the answer whould be yes.
posted 08-09-2008 12:33 PM ET (US)
Hey Lucky John,
Thanks for the report - I appreciate it.
I'm still on the fence as to what options to get, & that determines whether I purchase an in-stock boat or order one. If I order one, than it'll be an '09, & the base price will be higher, but not significantly.
posted 08-13-2008 01:22 AM ET (US)
Well,......I bought the boat today!
2008 Montauk 150 w/ fishing pkg & trailer. Got the dealer to come down another $455. Final purchase price, sans tax & licensing, was $19,540.
Once again - I want to thank all the poster who took the time to offer their advice, thoughts & experiences - All very much appreciated!
After the deal was done - I sent the boat over to a local canvas guy, who's going to make some covers for me (console, seat & mooring) - he just need to take some measurements & make some patterns..... After, it goes to have some minor electronics installed,..... then off to get bottom painted,.....then finally, back to the marina to hang with it's Big Bro, the 345CQ.
Below's a link to some pics of the boat, while still at the dealership, & prior to it's busy week!
posted 08-13-2008 06:30 AM ET (US)
But seriously, all good things come in three's. I think there are times when you will want to take a mini day cruise, and the 345 will be too much trouble, and the 150 Montauk will not be up for the task. You know what to do, now.
We await your report!
And the 205 Conquest is a heavy boat, so make sure you get more than the 150 if you are going four stroke.
posted 08-13-2008 10:49 AM ET (US)
Ha! - Thanks Sal!
posted 08-13-2008 11:48 AM ET (US)
Having 2 is great. I have a 285 CQ and a 17 Montauk. It's nice to have the smaller boat to run around, take the kids skiing and wake boarding. We use the bigger boat for rafting off with friends on the river, offshore fishing and long boat trips. I highly recommend getting the 2nd boat. You will love having it available.
I had the 345CQ as a guest at my dock for a while. She looked real nice next to the 285 CQ and the Montauk.
Take it easy,
posted 08-13-2008 01:00 PM ET (US)
Cheers on #2 15' here is 21,495 but probably most options on it except electronics. It also could be an 07.
posted 08-13-2008 01:22 PM ET (US)
I have 4 Whalers...2 is not enough so buy my 11 as well and have a balanced and diversified fleet ;)
posted 08-13-2008 03:07 PM ET (US)
There nothing better than a new Whaler, except two new Whalers.
ps I guess your not retro fitting the sat tv from your old 305 to the 150 :)
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