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wbullwin posted 09-03-2008 10:29 AM ET (US)   Profile for wbullwin   Send Email to wbullwin  
I'm trying to help a friend of mine get into boating. I just took him out on my 170 Montauk and he loved it. I saw a 1998 18 foot Dauntless with a 135 Hp merc optimax. Can anyone give me some feeback. How would a Dauntles ride and handle compared to my 170 Montauk? Has the Optimax been a good engine? Anything would help.
We're in the Upper Chesapeake Bay if anyone knows of a 170 Montauk for sale.
Lars Simonsen posted 09-03-2008 10:29 PM ET (US)     Profile for Lars Simonsen  Send Email to Lars Simonsen     
I have a 1998 Dauntless with a 135 Optimax and I love it. Here are the negatives:

1. The hull is stern heavy, and has a tendency to "pound." If the boat doesn't already have trim tabs, I'd highly recommend them. The motor also needs to be mounted at the right height, and you need a good cupped propeller for stern lift. Once the hull and motor are set up right, and you've got some experience under your belt, you can run the boat in most conditions very comfortably.

2. The 1998 Optimax is a great motor, but some of them had problems. Mine blew the powerhead at 60 hours. Even though I was the second owner, and the motor was out of warranty, Mercury gave me a new powerhead. I just had to pay shipping and installation. That powerhead has been flawless. However, even though it doesn't seem like an old motor to me, Mercury seems to think it's an old motor, and has discontinued some of the parts. Obviously, this is a problem when you need one of those parts. The 135 is matched very well to the hull. It gets the boat right up on plane, and will make the boat go about as fast as you could reasonably want to travel.

3. The fuel tank is one of the plastic tanks, and it allows some gas vapors to leach through (you can smell it in the bilge and in the console). It can be alarming at first, but it's not a problem and is not an explosion risk. The fuel tank is not well vented, so it has a tendency to "burp" fuel back up the fuel filler hose when you're filling the tank, making it hard to fill. The fix for this is to wrap the fill nozzle with a paper towel so that when you put the nozzle into the fill hose, it seals the space between the nozzle and the hose. Then you can fill the tank as fast as you want, and it won't burp up until the tank is full.

The positives:

1. It's a very large 18 footer. The wide beam of the boat does make it very, very stable (but also contributes to the pounding). The weight of the hull does help to smooth out the ride somewhat. It's got a high bow that really knocks down the spray.

2. It's very versatile. It has a shallow draft (11 inches at rest, I think), so it can go into some pretty skinny water. However, it's also capable of some limited offhsore use (pick your days carefully). With the "comfort" package, it's a decent cruising boat. Stripped down to the basics, it's a great fishing machine.

3. It's very efficient. With the 65 gallon gas tank, you can run the boat for days without ever having to fill it up. I'm constantly amazed at how little fuel it uses.

I don't know how the ride compares to a 170 montauk. I had a classic montauk before the dauntless, and loved it. But it had gotten too small for my family. We've just about outgrown the dauntless, now, but we don't do as much family boating as we used to, so now it's used primarily for fishing, usually with 2 or 3 aboard. The Dauntless feels like a much larger boat than the classic montauk.

Lars

lakeman posted 09-06-2008 07:50 AM ET (US)     Profile for lakeman  Send Email to lakeman     
What Lars said! I will say also the gas tank, is tooo big, With the fuel efficiency of the 135 it takes tooo long to empty it. I have a 2000 model, but basically the same as the 98. I have my likes and dislikes but all in all a great do it all boat, if you/they can pick one up for the right price and are not afraid to modify it(some like it to be original) to meet your needs I would highly recommend the boat. As Lars said, trim tabs are a must. The 98 135 can be good or bad, again, the motor is 10 years old, and no matter what use/hours it has been through could be a minor, major or no problem. If the price is right, and a potential repower is in the future budget, the boat go for it. I should say, all used boats may need to be repowered sooner some,later heck that's true for all boats.
masbama posted 09-07-2008 12:50 PM ET (US)     Profile for masbama  Send Email to masbama     
I have a 1999. I too smell the gas vapors but what Lars said put me at ease. I have a 150 Evinrude 2 stroke on a jackplate. Between that and tilt/trim I don't see the need for trim tabs. Great family/ fishing boat. Smmother ride and much more space than a Montauk (which I had before)
lakeman posted 09-09-2008 02:38 PM ET (US)     Profile for lakeman  Send Email to lakeman     
masbama,I tried your e-mail, did not work, I wanted to know more about your jack plate. I have always thought that a jack plate on the Dauntless might help, and even started a thread, or in a thread some where in this forum on the issue, suggesting opinions on the jack plate on the older Dauntless series but no one replied. Could you give me some info on Manufacturer, length, and any other information of why it would help with the stern heavy planing issues of the 1998-2002? 18 Dauntless.
masbama posted 09-14-2008 12:59 PM ET (US)     Profile for masbama  Send Email to masbama     
Sent my e mail address.

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