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Rick U posted 09-06-2008 11:55 PM ET (US)   Profile for Rick U   Send Email to Rick U  
Today I got the Montauk 190. Tomorrow I’ll fish and take the family for a ride. I just drove from the ramp to the slip so I have no real impressions about the ride. It does feel solid and spacious. Good hardware, good glass work, good fit and finish. Tomorrow I start breaking her in.
Ferdinando posted 09-07-2008 12:35 AM ET (US)     Profile for Ferdinando  Send Email to Ferdinando     
Congratulations, you will love it.........

Fred

CLK posted 09-07-2008 01:48 AM ET (US)     Profile for CLK    

Congrats Rick!

Great boat - catch some fish & have lots of fun.

Cheers!
~CLK

Rick U posted 09-07-2008 08:44 AM ET (US)     Profile for Rick U  Send Email to Rick U     
I have a few questions and probably a few more to come.
The fuel line is attached to the outboard and secured by a single plastic zip tie. Is that factory rigging?
I had some trouble with the flush adaptor sliding out of place and into the cowling. Maybe my hose is too heavy?
Does the ladder just fold up onto the swim step and stay in place while under way? It looks like a few bumps could get the ladder to deploy.
Rick U posted 09-07-2008 08:47 AM ET (US)     Profile for Rick U  Send Email to Rick U     
forgot, one more. I don't see a schedule for break-in. Did they do away with that?

Thanks guys

chuck21401 posted 09-07-2008 09:30 AM ET (US)     Profile for chuck21401  Send Email to chuck21401     
re: break in, check the Merc owners manual, I'm pretty sure it is addresses in there. If not I believe I saw some info on the Merc website.

And we'll need to see some pics of your boat!

SJUAE posted 09-07-2008 03:27 PM ET (US)     Profile for SJUAE    
Rick

Congrats that bow makes the boat seem huge

I’ve never had any problems with the ladder and as my Wife is for ever leaving it down I have a short rope attached so I can heave it up. You could do the same and tie it off so the ladder can never be deployed.

BTW keep the kids seated or away from the stern until you get use to the throttle response as there’s not a lot to grab hold of at the back on a new 190 unless you have the rear seat option

Have fun

Regards
Steve

glen e posted 09-07-2008 04:20 PM ET (US)     Profile for glen e  Send Email to glen e     
1. where were you expecting to see the break in? - did your dealer not discuss with you?
2. that is not a zip tie - it is a special type crimper put on by a spec tool - it will not move...
Rick U posted 09-07-2008 07:06 PM ET (US)     Profile for Rick U  Send Email to Rick U     
The dealer said take it easy at first. I thought the manual would be more specific. The last new outboard I had was Yamaha and I remember WFO was part of the break-in.

I took her for a ride this morning. She's easy to maneuver and easy to get on plane. The drift is like a barge, really stable.

glen e posted 09-07-2008 07:22 PM ET (US)     Profile for glen e  Send Email to glen e     
Is this a 115 fourstoke merc? What does the manual say for break in? I can't pull one up online but you are correct I think, WOT is part of the break in......
SC Joe posted 09-07-2008 11:07 PM ET (US)     Profile for SC Joe  Send Email to SC Joe     
Actually, that probably IS a zip tie holding your fuel line. My 90 4s on my Mtk 170 had two..on either end of an adapter from the boat side to the engine side, right before the grommet on the engine.

And in BW's wisdom in rigging the engine, rather than feeding eth fuel line through the hole provided in the grommet on the engine, they just "fabbed" (ie cut with a pocket knife) their own hole and stuck the fuel line through that. It caused the gromet to weaken, and fall through (either way) like yours does. I ended up buying a new one ($39.00!!!) and spending the time to rig it correctly...the way Merc says you should. It's in the owners manual.

Rick U posted 09-08-2008 06:49 PM ET (US)     Profile for Rick U  Send Email to Rick U     
Still can't get the freshwater flush to work properly. I got a much lighter weight vinyl hose so the flush adaptor will stay in place. That's a really lame design. The new hose did the trick as far as weight, but now I'm getting an overheat alarm when I try to flush. The motor is tilted up, hose running motor at idle. It ran about 3 minutes before the alarm. I tried a little more water pressure from the hose and that didn't help. Any suggestions?
glen e posted 09-08-2008 08:09 PM ET (US)     Profile for glen e  Send Email to glen e     
did you read your owner's manual???? you never run the engine on the flush port....
Whalerdog posted 09-08-2008 08:19 PM ET (US)     Profile for Whalerdog  Send Email to Whalerdog     
Take it from me I just use the boat to ride around and play in the inlet in big water and the laddar never deployed even running in 6-7 foot waves. It was a question I had ask also when I bought the boat. 24 Outrage has a rubber strap.
Whalerdog posted 09-08-2008 08:37 PM ET (US)     Profile for Whalerdog  Send Email to Whalerdog     
my flush kit for $2.79 http://doitbest.com/Hose+Accessories-Gilmour+Group-model-39QDB-doitbest-sku-723118.dib

I run the hose over my bow as it is in the water and over the engine cowl. I place they synthetic cloth called the Absorber damp over the cowl so they hose doesn't slide off and pull to one side. You need to screw it in then snap it in but don't shove it hard as the water fitting will push in from the hole it is mounted in. Don't turn water on more than 1/2 way as it will have to much pressure it said in the manual.

SC Joe posted 09-08-2008 09:08 PM ET (US)     Profile for SC Joe  Send Email to SC Joe     
>>did you read your owner's manual???? you never run the engine on the flush port....<<

Actually Glen, at least for my 90 4S (and I assume the 115 as well), that is how the owners manual tells you to flush it.I had to read it a couple times to make sure what they were saying I understood. The motor is to be run at idle only, with the hose turned on about half way only. Run it for about 5-15 minutes, or long enough to get it warm so the thermostat will open.

I'm guessing from your response the V's are different, and a fliush only through that port?

Rick U posted 09-08-2008 09:45 PM ET (US)     Profile for Rick U  Send Email to Rick U     
Yes it is a 115 4 stroke and the manual does say to run the motor at idle while on the hose.
glen e posted 09-08-2008 09:51 PM ET (US)     Profile for glen e  Send Email to glen e     
I certainly stand corrected - I did not think any engine should be run on the port...and if I owned it I still would not do it, and use the merc muffs if I wanted to run it on the hard...
Rick U posted 09-08-2008 10:12 PM ET (US)     Profile for Rick U  Send Email to Rick U     
Whalerdog in terms of water pressure from the hose, are you getting any spray at the connection to the motor. I had some spray going all over the cowling. Maybe too much water pressure?
Whalerdog posted 09-08-2008 10:27 PM ET (US)     Profile for Whalerdog  Send Email to Whalerdog     
yes I get some spray. I have had it full blast also. Water pressure on gage never get very high with the hose even on full. I look where it is coming from exactly next time out which will be in 2 days due to weather. My neighbor has a 15 year old Evinrude hever flushes so I think I am nuts but I hate to never rinse and always do. I have a phobia about corrosion and rust.
Whalerdog posted 09-08-2008 10:31 PM ET (US)     Profile for Whalerdog  Send Email to Whalerdog     
I do 5 minutes as when I come in the stat & engine are warm should be enough I hope. It is threaded so I guess they didn't thread it for looks. Manual also states it.
Whalerdog posted 09-11-2008 07:15 PM ET (US)     Profile for Whalerdog  Send Email to Whalerdog     
Yes the hose sprays out as there is no place for the hose to seat good with a washer like a nozzle.
seabob4 posted 09-11-2008 07:58 PM ET (US)     Profile for seabob4  Send Email to seabob4     
Aren't "new" boats fun? Drive a new $25,000 car off the lot, and if it had these issues, it would be back to the dealer in a heartbeat! But, it is a boat, after all...

You CAN run the motor with a hose hooked up to the "flush" fitting. Don't use it to TS, Just use it to flush. If you want to rev it a bit, put the muffs on. As far as your fuel line, replace those mini ty-wraps with #4 mini hose clamps.

That should take care of those problems, although I'm sure you'll find more. After all, it is a new boat...

Rick U posted 09-11-2008 10:02 PM ET (US)     Profile for Rick U  Send Email to Rick U     
What a great resource is forum is! Tomorrow I'll forget about all the details and focus on hooking a fish or two. Thanks for all the help.
Rick U posted 09-13-2008 11:44 AM ET (US)     Profile for Rick U  Send Email to Rick U     
The boat ran great, we caught a few fish and even the flushing worked well. The tackle locker door did, however break my first time using it. Has anyone changed that flimsy thing out with something better? I assume it's the same tackle locker assy installed on the 170.
GreatBayNH posted 09-14-2008 12:50 PM ET (US)     Profile for GreatBayNH  Send Email to GreatBayNH     
So when do we get some pictures linked to this thread?
Rick U posted 09-14-2008 06:22 PM ET (US)     Profile for Rick U  Send Email to Rick U     
I'll get some better shots soon. Here are a few I have.

http://s359.photobucket.com/albums/oo40/Rick_U/?action=view& current=IMG_0088.jpg
http://s359.photobucket.com/albums/oo40/Rick_U/?action=view& current=IMG_0090.jpg
http://s359.photobucket.com/albums/oo40/Rick_U/?action=view& current=IMG_0102.jpg


alfred posted 09-14-2008 07:28 PM ET (US)     Profile for alfred  Send Email to alfred     
Nice boat Rick.

Do you have any problems fly fishing on the boat? Does anything in particular catch the tippets?

Rick U posted 09-14-2008 08:13 PM ET (US)     Profile for Rick U  Send Email to Rick U     
So far nothing too bad for snags. The rails are no problem. A wet rag on the bow cleat made for a quick solution.
Rick U posted 09-18-2008 05:33 PM ET (US)     Profile for Rick U  Send Email to Rick U     
This morning I met a mechanic at the boat to install a Racor fliter, VHF and whip antenna, and a GPS. The gps is a combo but we won't install the transducer until the boat is on a trailer.

Here are a few shots

http://s359.photobucket.com/albums/oo40/Rick_U/?action=view& current=IMG_0114.jpg
http://s359.photobucket.com/albums/oo40/Rick_U/?action=view& current=IMG_0115.jpg


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