Splashed the 190 today. First Impressions (mine that is)

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alfred posted 09-15-2008 09:14 AM ET (US)
Finally got it all together and managed to take some time out to put her in the water today. Weather wasn't flash with 3 meter swells forecasted, but at least the wind was below 10knots and blowing from the East, so the water surface would be calm.
I launched at my local ramp which is well protected from wind and waves and ran into the first problem!
The ramp was too shallow and I couldn't get her off the trailer. Had backed down till the rear wheels were in the water already, but after timing it with the waves and rocking her, she finally got off the trailer. Looks like I have to get a tow bar extension for launching and recovering.
Here is a pic of her a the jetty. You can see with the Verado on the transom, full tanks and no gear other then a simple tool box in the consul, she sits with the bow quite high in the air.
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/alheng/P9150003.jpg
I lowered the outboard to let the oil drain down before starting and spent some time getting the electronics turned on.
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/alheng/DSC00103.jpg
I love the ride! It is much softer then the Classic 18 Outrage and drier, but I did not like the Mirage Plus prop that came standard. It really lacked bite in the close swells that I had today and the nose was in the air alot.
First run was with the trim tab in the stored position and I trimmed it out with the outboard's trim and it took awhile to settle down. I ran her both ways, into the swell and with a following sea.
The next run was better using the trim tabs, but she still wandered about till she came on plane, which was faster with the help of the tabs. I didn't clock the time to plane, so it's just my opinion that the tabs helped.
I am sure the T top affects the way she handles, but I am not sure by how much as I did not run her in local conditions without the top.
The transducer worked all the way to WOT, but I was in only 9-14 meters, so I am keeping my fingers crossed that it will be no different in deeper water.
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/alheng/P9050005.jpg
You can more or less see from the pic below, it is only 3-4mm lower then the step and it does not leave a rooster tail.
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/alheng/P9070008.jpg
All in all, I am a happy camper. Can't wait to try it with the Rev 4 prop. I am hoping for more lift in the rear!

Rick U posted 09-15-2008 09:43 AM ET (US)
Very nice
alfred posted 09-15-2008 11:10 AM ET (US)
Oh yes, I forgot - I moved the winch post back so that only 1 inch of the bunk is showing. It's much lighter on the tongue now. I will get a scale under it and advise what it is now. Seems to handle better with this setting.
SJUAE posted 09-15-2008 12:02 PM ET (US)
Congrats
Let us see how she sits fully geared
Rgds
Steve
wmeier posted 09-15-2008 05:26 PM ET (US)
Nice looking boat! Funny you mentioned the ramp issue...I used my new outrage 190 all summer being launched from racks at the marina. However I just bought a Chevy Silverado to tow it. My first experience at the ramp was this weekend and thought I would have a heart attack trying to get her in the bunks. I had same problem as you had with the luanch. (the whaler video on trailer boat website made the retrival look a little easier???) Be interested in hearing how you solve this probelm.
alfred posted 09-15-2008 07:12 PM ET (US)
At the moment I am thinking of using a hitch extension, but it would be a pain if I have to put I on at the ramp to launch. Don't think you can tow with it. Anyone here use one?
A large cooler with ice will add some weight to the front, but I don't think it will make much difference. I am not going to let it worry me too much as there isn't much I can do about it. Will get some pics with it fully loaded with gear when I get a chance to go out next. Might be a bit of a wait as the forecast is for up 4.5 meter waves and up to 27knots winds for the next week. Hopefully last of the winter swells.
highanddry posted 09-15-2008 09:09 PM ET (US)
I don't think the bow sits as high as you think. The Outrage 190 has a raked shear line and a large, deep bow. This gives it the appearence of sitting bow high. As evidenced by your statement that it rides softer than the Outrage 18 is proof that it is doing the job.
Get an anchor in the locker up front, I assume you have dual batteries as well.
alfred posted 09-16-2008 08:07 AM ET (US)
I'm not worried about how she sits, but I did notice that the scuppers are at the water line when there are 2 guys in the back.
Today I had the chance to bring both the 18 and 190 down to the ramp as I wanted to take some pictures and of course, after all the trouble, I forgot the camera! I also confirmed something I suspected yesterday. After reading all the post about how quiet the Verado is, I must have expected too much. I thought she was louder then the Johnzuki but put it down to the resonance at the consul at certain revs.
I set both the boats on either side of the jetty and had both outboards running. When on both the 18 and 190, I could only hear the Verado! I can tell you the Johnzuki is one quite motor.
The local marina has 8 ramps and I launched at all 8! All too shallow. Looks like I have to get an extended hitch or change the carpets to the plastic pads with less friction.
Sorry - still haven't put the Rev 4 on, but will soon.
surfkast posted 09-17-2008 01:25 AM ET (US)
Nice boat! Is that a bait tank under the seats, if so how big is it?
alfred posted 09-17-2008 05:42 AM ET (US)
Cheers - Yes that is live bait tank, I am not sure how many liters, but it's a decent size.
high sierra posted 09-17-2008 11:40 AM ET (US)
Alfred, test trial lower profile tires. The motor will probably not clear the ground when all the way down but it will be normally in the up position for travelling. high sierra

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Author	Topic: Splashed the 190 today. First Impressions (mine that is)
alfred	posted 09-15-2008 09:14 AM ET (US) Finally got it all together and managed to take some time out to put her in the water today. Weather wasn't flash with 3 meter swells forecasted, but at least the wind was below 10knots and blowing from the East, so the water surface would be calm. I launched at my local ramp which is well protected from wind and waves and ran into the first problem! The ramp was too shallow and I couldn't get her off the trailer. Had backed down till the rear wheels were in the water already, but after timing it with the waves and rocking her, she finally got off the trailer. Looks like I have to get a tow bar extension for launching and recovering. Here is a pic of her a the jetty. You can see with the Verado on the transom, full tanks and no gear other then a simple tool box in the consul, she sits with the bow quite high in the air. http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/alheng/P9150003.jpg I lowered the outboard to let the oil drain down before starting and spent some time getting the electronics turned on. http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/alheng/DSC00103.jpg I love the ride! It is much softer then the Classic 18 Outrage and drier, but I did not like the Mirage Plus prop that came standard. It really lacked bite in the close swells that I had today and the nose was in the air alot. First run was with the trim tab in the stored position and I trimmed it out with the outboard's trim and it took awhile to settle down. I ran her both ways, into the swell and with a following sea. The next run was better using the trim tabs, but she still wandered about till she came on plane, which was faster with the help of the tabs. I didn't clock the time to plane, so it's just my opinion that the tabs helped. I am sure the T top affects the way she handles, but I am not sure by how much as I did not run her in local conditions without the top. The transducer worked all the way to WOT, but I was in only 9-14 meters, so I am keeping my fingers crossed that it will be no different in deeper water. http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/alheng/P9050005.jpg You can more or less see from the pic below, it is only 3-4mm lower then the step and it does not leave a rooster tail. http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/alheng/P9070008.jpg All in all, I am a happy camper. Can't wait to try it with the Rev 4 prop. I am hoping for more lift in the rear!
Rick U	posted 09-15-2008 09:43 AM ET (US) Very nice
alfred	posted 09-15-2008 11:10 AM ET (US) Oh yes, I forgot - I moved the winch post back so that only 1 inch of the bunk is showing. It's much lighter on the tongue now. I will get a scale under it and advise what it is now. Seems to handle better with this setting.
SJUAE	posted 09-15-2008 12:02 PM ET (US) Congrats Let us see how she sits fully geared Rgds Steve
wmeier	posted 09-15-2008 05:26 PM ET (US) Nice looking boat! Funny you mentioned the ramp issue...I used my new outrage 190 all summer being launched from racks at the marina. However I just bought a Chevy Silverado to tow it. My first experience at the ramp was this weekend and thought I would have a heart attack trying to get her in the bunks. I had same problem as you had with the luanch. (the whaler video on trailer boat website made the retrival look a little easier???) Be interested in hearing how you solve this probelm.
alfred	posted 09-15-2008 07:12 PM ET (US) At the moment I am thinking of using a hitch extension, but it would be a pain if I have to put I on at the ramp to launch. Don't think you can tow with it. Anyone here use one? A large cooler with ice will add some weight to the front, but I don't think it will make much difference. I am not going to let it worry me too much as there isn't much I can do about it. Will get some pics with it fully loaded with gear when I get a chance to go out next. Might be a bit of a wait as the forecast is for up 4.5 meter waves and up to 27knots winds for the next week. Hopefully last of the winter swells.
highanddry	posted 09-15-2008 09:09 PM ET (US) I don't think the bow sits as high as you think. The Outrage 190 has a raked shear line and a large, deep bow. This gives it the appearence of sitting bow high. As evidenced by your statement that it rides softer than the Outrage 18 is proof that it is doing the job. Get an anchor in the locker up front, I assume you have dual batteries as well.
alfred	posted 09-16-2008 08:07 AM ET (US) I'm not worried about how she sits, but I did notice that the scuppers are at the water line when there are 2 guys in the back. Today I had the chance to bring both the 18 and 190 down to the ramp as I wanted to take some pictures and of course, after all the trouble, I forgot the camera! I also confirmed something I suspected yesterday. After reading all the post about how quiet the Verado is, I must have expected too much. I thought she was louder then the Johnzuki but put it down to the resonance at the consul at certain revs. I set both the boats on either side of the jetty and had both outboards running. When on both the 18 and 190, I could only hear the Verado! I can tell you the Johnzuki is one quite motor. The local marina has 8 ramps and I launched at all 8! All too shallow. Looks like I have to get an extended hitch or change the carpets to the plastic pads with less friction. Sorry - still haven't put the Rev 4 on, but will soon.
surfkast	posted 09-17-2008 01:25 AM ET (US) Nice boat! Is that a bait tank under the seats, if so how big is it?
alfred	posted 09-17-2008 05:42 AM ET (US) Cheers - Yes that is live bait tank, I am not sure how many liters, but it's a decent size.
high sierra	posted 09-17-2008 11:40 AM ET (US) Alfred, test trial lower profile tires. The motor will probably not clear the ground when all the way down but it will be normally in the up position for travelling. high sierra