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JoeyP posted 12-29-2008 12:14 PM ET (US)   Profile for JoeyP   Send Email to JoeyP  
Any suggestions on where to purchase a cover for the 190 Outrage? Which material is best for the money? Thanks.
Yiddil posted 12-29-2008 03:31 PM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil  Send Email to Yiddil     
The best boat cover for a 19 Outrage/Nantucket is a "Mills" form fitted cover, a bit pricy but well worth every penny Remembering what Marlin said here a while ago...the cover protects the boat and not the other way around"
SC Joe posted 12-29-2008 03:59 PM ET (US)     Profile for SC Joe  Send Email to SC Joe     
The main downside (along with the high cost) I have with a Mills cover is the necessity to drill holes for footman type loops under the gunnels that are used hold the cover on.

I purchased a Westlake (sister company to Great Lakes Boat top company--the folks who make the canvas for newer whalers). No holes need to be drilled, the cover cost almost half as much as a Mills, and is made of very thick water resistant material.

BlueMax posted 12-29-2008 04:49 PM ET (US)     Profile for BlueMax  Send Email to BlueMax     
Sunbrella seems to be one of the top fabrics as far as longevity, breath-ability, water repellancy and overall protection. Also has a strong quality for color retention (not fading) and most all covers I've seen made from Sunbrella fabric have a 5 year warranty. "Sharkskin" is also a good material.

I tend to agree with SC Joe on Mills - they may look great but are quite expensive and may require drilling holes to install snaps. If your purpose is simply to protect the vessel while not in use (i.e. it sits on a trailer in your driveway) - why pay so much when you can get a really good looking fit made from the same material for so much less (I have a 2007 170 Montauk - Mills wanted almost $1,000 for a custom fit Sunbrella boat and motor cover - I got a custom fit Sunbrella cover from Carver in South Carolina for $350 which included the custom-fit motor cover and 12 tie down straps. And the color matches my factory canvas).

To me buying a Mills cover for a boat in the driveway is like buying Calvin Klein jeans to sit at home and watch TV - Unless you are into status symbols and name-recognition, what's the point in paying so much for "fashion" when you can get all of the fit, function, durability and comfort for so much less from other reliable quality sources. Seems you invest in a cover to protect your investment in the boat, but if you pay that much for the cover - do you then need to protect your investment in the cover by buying a car port or a cover-cover?

My 2 cents.

alfred posted 12-29-2008 05:23 PM ET (US)     Profile for alfred  Send Email to alfred     
I have a Taylor Made T top boat cover. True, it's only a few months old, but the Australian sun is very unforgiving. The cover has not shown a single bit of fade at all. The colour is still dark and rich and even with the high winds (the wind will hit 25-30 knots at least 300 days a year where I am) here nearly every day, there is no sign of wear spots.

Compared to the Mills, it real cheap!

Don't buy their outboard covers though! It's made of a different material and that faded thru in 2 months under our conditions.

Jefecinco posted 12-29-2008 07:27 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jefecinco  Send Email to Jefecinco     
A source you may want to consider is: www.websweeper.com/php/boat_covers/bc-001.php
I've heard good reviews on non-whaler forums. I have not bought one from them but will probably give them a try in February.

Butch

BlueMax posted 12-30-2008 12:23 AM ET (US)     Profile for BlueMax  Send Email to BlueMax     
websweepers (aka Ameri-Brand) uses Carver Industries of South Carolina boat covers - great covers great price (see my post above).

Although another member on this site reported no problems ordering and receiving a cover for his boat through websweepers off a tip I posted - I had a horrible experience with websweepers/Ameri-Brand and was treated extremely discourteously and belligerently by the owner when I tried to resolve the issue(s).

Almost exactly 1 year ago I started a thread on the great deal I found on a cover for my 2007 170 Montauk at websweepers - I then chronicled the aggravation that followed:

http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/015377.html

Basically websweepers screwed up my order - twice - charged me twice, had me return ship at my cost and then said that it was my problem (this is an apparent pattern with them as evidenced on posts on a site called complaints.com - all had similar experiences with websweepers screwing up an order and the owner being belligerent, rude and disrespectful when contacted to resolve the error). It took me until April of this year to resolve an issue that started in December of last year. I eventually wound up contacting Carver Industries directly to get resolution and, to my surprise and admiration, the President of Carver wound up getting directly involved with his distributor - apparently I wasn't the first to complain, but I had the most egregious experience. Carver's customer service reps were outstanding and I was actually compensated quite handsomely by Carver for the hassles and egregious disrespect I encountered at websweepers/Ameri-Brand. (I received a complimentary one-piece Sunbrella cooler and console cover as well as an offer to purchase a Sunbrella RPS cover for $80. All colors matched my factory fabric - the quality of the covers and color matching is outstanding.)

Now, I'm not saying don't purchase your cover through websweepers if you can save a couple hundred dollars or so, but do so with this warning - if you have a problem with your order, even if it is admittedly their own mistake, the owner's attitude and people-skills leave a tremendous amount to be desired - in fact he has been known to threaten the customer(!) who is simply trying to resolve the issue of receiving the wrong product due to websweepers own screw-up!

Me personally, I will avoid websweepers at all "cost".

PS - The Carver cover is great value for price and quality and they have many other suppliers (look under "retailers" link for local, international and internet suppliers):

http://www.carvercovers.com/

Mambo Minnow posted 12-30-2008 12:33 AM ET (US)     Profile for Mambo Minnow  Send Email to Mambo Minnow     
I had a very positive experience with Carver, too. Their customer service was exceptional. They took the time to ensure they selected the correct semi-custom cover to get a good fit on my vessel.

The cover has held up extremely well for two years in Florida elements.

The OEM Great Lakes sunbrella in Jockey Red has faded but endured. This seems to be the one Sunbrella color that does not do as well as other choices. It's the traditional Whaler color however, although the navy blue seems to be gaining in popularity.

Jefecinco posted 12-30-2008 10:57 AM ET (US)     Profile for Jefecinco  Send Email to Jefecinco     
Max,

Thanks for the tip. Too bad covers can't be ordered directly from Carver. I notice Carver does not offer boat covers in Sunbrella but websweeper does. Any thoughts on that?

If the Carver information is current they have a dealer in Gulfport, MS just down the road a few miles. Perhaps I'll give them a call.

Butch

spkrmakr posted 12-30-2008 08:04 PM ET (US)     Profile for spkrmakr  Send Email to spkrmakr     
I too ordered the Carver top for my 08, 17' Montauk. I could not be happier though since it has only been on the boat for a month I have no idea how long it will last. However, the fit and finish could not be better. My purchase was from http://www.discountboatcover.com/ This company had a great price and great service.
JoeyP posted 01-02-2009 06:58 PM ET (US)     Profile for JoeyP  Send Email to JoeyP     
I just ordered a cover from Carver Industries via I-boats.com. Its scheduled to be here next Monday. I'll let you know.
Jefecinco posted 01-03-2009 09:17 AM ET (US)     Profile for Jefecinco  Send Email to Jefecinco     
Joey,

That's great. Hope it's a perfect fit and exactly what you are looking for.

Keep us posted.

Butch

JoeyP posted 01-09-2009 10:04 PM ET (US)     Profile for JoeyP  Send Email to JoeyP     
I have received the cover. I put it on the boat yesterday. The motor cover is attached to the cover unlike the Montauk cover I used to have. I did find out this is a "style to fit" cover not an actual "custom cover" as advertised by iboats.com. I contacted Carver Industries because I noticed that the part#'s were different. Carver is a squared away operation but unfortunately doesn't sell direct to the public. Anyway they informed me that they would assist me via iboats if I wasn't satisfied with the cover. The custom cover is about $200.00 more that the style to fit cover.

I put the cover on my boat and its not too shabby. It has a little extra here and there but it works. I placed the support poles underneath and a stability ball at the bow. I snugged it down and it looks good. We have snow and sleet on the way this weekend here in Jersey. Perfect test time. I'll keep you posted.

Jefecinco posted 01-10-2009 10:28 AM ET (US)     Profile for Jefecinco  Send Email to Jefecinco     
Joey,

Good that the fit is satisfactory and that you're pleased. Also good that you got a nice fit without spending the extra $200 for the "custom fit" cover.

Sounds like the weekend will be a good test.

Butch

sheikofthesea posted 01-10-2009 10:48 AM ET (US)     Profile for sheikofthesea  Send Email to sheikofthesea     
I got the custom fitted Westwood cover with "sharkskin" material, for my 190 MOntauk. It should arrive Thursday and I will show people how it looks.


Gotta love the 190 M!

Sheik

JoeyP posted 01-11-2009 11:37 AM ET (US)     Profile for JoeyP  Send Email to JoeyP     
Well, we did not get the five inches of snow this weekend. We did get combination of both sleet and snow that accumulated to about an inch or so. The cover worked fine and I'm satisfied with it.
Casco Bay Outrage posted 01-11-2009 12:59 PM ET (US)     Profile for Casco Bay Outrage  Send Email to Casco Bay Outrage     
We got your snow instead. Want it back? : )
sheikofthesea posted 01-17-2009 08:52 PM ET (US)     Profile for sheikofthesea  Send Email to sheikofthesea     
I got the "sharkskin" fitted boat cover by westwood through iboat.com. I put it on today and it looks nice and snug. It has some "crinkles," i.e. sort of permanent creases that I don't think the sunbrella fabric would have, but jesus it costs about a 3rd less. Now lets see how it does in a big snowstorm.


Sheik


chopbuster posted 01-18-2009 12:24 PM ET (US)     Profile for chopbuster    
I don't know if this is old news but it's certainly good info.

Recent scuttlebut talk with several BW dealers, has it
that you can order any canvas from the Wm. Mills Co via
your whaler dealer for installation by them.

Yiddil posted 01-18-2009 06:56 PM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil  Send Email to Yiddil     
BW has always done this at least here in the DelMarVa...nothing new...

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