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RM NY posted 05-15-2009 01:43 PM ET (US)
Wanted to thank those who posted topics in regards to the 14 Dauntless, researching those topics I installed Smart Tabs on one and it solved the boats issues.
Owner bought the boat with a 40, and hated it. We put a 60 on the boat, when we were putting the motor on the boat he informed me the reason he wanted the 60 was because the boat had a hard time getting up on plane. I told him that I remembered the dealer having problems with those boats when they were being sold new and I would do some research on the subject.
Issues solved! Thanks again.
RM NY posted 05-15-2009 01:47 PM ET (US)
BTW I put a 10 3/8 x 13" merc black diamond alum. prop on the boat, next step might be a 4 blade stainless if we still want to tweak it a little more.
fishgutz posted 05-15-2009 08:56 PM ET (US)
What 60 HP motor do you have? Can you give us some performance numbers? Speed via GPS? At what RPM? etc.
fishgutz posted 05-16-2009 06:44 PM ET (US)
Post some pics, too. If you can.
Here are mine:
http://s42.photobucket.com/albums/e336/Fishgutz/Boat%20and%20Fish/ ?action=view¤t=whaler20st20johns2022.jpg
http://s42.photobucket.com/albums/e336/Fishgutz/Boat%20Tech%20Pics/ 2 pages.
http://s42.photobucket.com/albums/e336/Fishgutz/Boat%20and%20Fish/ 2 pages here too.
davej14 posted 05-16-2009 11:25 PM ET (US)
Pics of the smart tabs would greatly be appreciated.
RM NY posted 05-17-2009 08:38 AM ET (US)
I wont be able to get pictures for a while, the tabs were a pit stop install, he picked them up on the way to me, I installed the tabs and the new prop to replace the loaner prop and he left. That evening he put the boat in the water, he had no GPS with him but was just happy that it got right up on plane with the bow down and revved right to 6000 RPM at full throttle. He ended up having to go to 3 stores that day and could only find the composite SX tabs.
The motor is a brand new 60hp Mercury 4 stroke EFI. According to the tag on the old 40 and the new 60 the weight difference was something like 70lbs.
FIshgutz- do you run the fin on the motor as well as the tabs? I think you used the smaller tabs, he bought the larger ones that look just like trim tabs, at his request I removed the ladder because the strap had broken and he just did not want the ladder anymore, I dont think one could install the tabs I used with the ladder still in place.

davej14 posted 05-17-2009 09:33 PM ET (US)
I was wondering about the ladder. Didn't think you could install trim tabs with it in place.
fishgutz posted 05-18-2009 09:05 AM ET (US)
I use only a Doel-fin. I've had great success. I am very happy. I lost NO top end and cruising is far more steady, less pounding from waves or chop. Also the big advantage I found was that I can accelerate gradually instead of gunning hard to get up on plane. I'm sure this saves lots of gas. Keeps passengers happy, too.
Pesonally i would not be without a boarding ladder. Secondly I would not be without one that is deployable from the water.
RM NY posted 05-18-2009 03:37 PM ET (US)
Alot of us would rather not swim in the Great South Bay, I questioned him about removing the ladder but if thats what the man wants that what I give him.
davej14 posted 05-19-2009 11:53 AM ET (US)
I have a "Turbolift" fin that is fabricated from rather heavy gauge stainless steel. It has a non-skid strip that makes it usable as a step for boarding from the water. It is not as useful as a ladder but it is better than nothing. A side benefit is that you do not need to drill the anti-cavitation plate because it clamps to it. The following link is not my boat but it illustrates the "Turbolift" fin:
http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum4/HTML/005525.html

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Author	Topic: 1999 14 Dauntless- success
RM NY	posted 05-15-2009 01:43 PM ET (US) Wanted to thank those who posted topics in regards to the 14 Dauntless, researching those topics I installed Smart Tabs on one and it solved the boats issues. Owner bought the boat with a 40, and hated it. We put a 60 on the boat, when we were putting the motor on the boat he informed me the reason he wanted the 60 was because the boat had a hard time getting up on plane. I told him that I remembered the dealer having problems with those boats when they were being sold new and I would do some research on the subject. Issues solved! Thanks again.
RM NY	posted 05-15-2009 01:47 PM ET (US) BTW I put a 10 3/8 x 13" merc black diamond alum. prop on the boat, next step might be a 4 blade stainless if we still want to tweak it a little more.
fishgutz	posted 05-15-2009 08:56 PM ET (US) What 60 HP motor do you have? Can you give us some performance numbers? Speed via GPS? At what RPM? etc.
fishgutz	posted 05-16-2009 06:44 PM ET (US) Post some pics, too. If you can. Here are mine: http://s42.photobucket.com/albums/e336/Fishgutz/Boat%20and%20Fish/ ?action=view¤t=whaler20st20johns2022.jpg http://s42.photobucket.com/albums/e336/Fishgutz/Boat%20Tech%20Pics/ 2 pages. http://s42.photobucket.com/albums/e336/Fishgutz/Boat%20and%20Fish/ 2 pages here too.
davej14	posted 05-16-2009 11:25 PM ET (US) Pics of the smart tabs would greatly be appreciated.
RM NY	posted 05-17-2009 08:38 AM ET (US) I wont be able to get pictures for a while, the tabs were a pit stop install, he picked them up on the way to me, I installed the tabs and the new prop to replace the loaner prop and he left. That evening he put the boat in the water, he had no GPS with him but was just happy that it got right up on plane with the bow down and revved right to 6000 RPM at full throttle. He ended up having to go to 3 stores that day and could only find the composite SX tabs. The motor is a brand new 60hp Mercury 4 stroke EFI. According to the tag on the old 40 and the new 60 the weight difference was something like 70lbs. FIshgutz- do you run the fin on the motor as well as the tabs? I think you used the smaller tabs, he bought the larger ones that look just like trim tabs, at his request I removed the ladder because the strap had broken and he just did not want the ladder anymore, I dont think one could install the tabs I used with the ladder still in place.
davej14	posted 05-17-2009 09:33 PM ET (US) I was wondering about the ladder. Didn't think you could install trim tabs with it in place.
fishgutz	posted 05-18-2009 09:05 AM ET (US) I use only a Doel-fin. I've had great success. I am very happy. I lost NO top end and cruising is far more steady, less pounding from waves or chop. Also the big advantage I found was that I can accelerate gradually instead of gunning hard to get up on plane. I'm sure this saves lots of gas. Keeps passengers happy, too. Pesonally i would not be without a boarding ladder. Secondly I would not be without one that is deployable from the water.
RM NY	posted 05-18-2009 03:37 PM ET (US) Alot of us would rather not swim in the Great South Bay, I questioned him about removing the ladder but if thats what the man wants that what I give him.
davej14	posted 05-19-2009 11:53 AM ET (US) I have a "Turbolift" fin that is fabricated from rather heavy gauge stainless steel. It has a non-skid strip that makes it usable as a step for boarding from the water. It is not as useful as a ladder but it is better than nothing. A side benefit is that you do not need to drill the anti-cavitation plate because it clamps to it. The following link is not my boat but it illustrates the "Turbolift" fin: http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum4/HTML/005525.html