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gholby posted 06-20-2009 01:04 PM ET (US)   Profile for gholby   Send Email to gholby  
Looking for a used whaler, 16 feet or smaller. Plan to use it on the Maine coast (close to shore) and a large lake. I have heard that the Ventura is a "wet" boat, but that the Dauntless is relatively dry. As I understand it, they share the same hull design.

Any comments from owners of either model would be appreciated.

Thanks,

fishgutz posted 06-20-2009 07:37 PM ET (US)     Profile for fishgutz  Send Email to fishgutz     
Both very dry. The venture may be dryer because there is more protection from the windshield.
gholby posted 06-21-2009 09:28 AM ET (US)     Profile for gholby  Send Email to gholby     
Fishgutz,

Do you own either one? If so, anything I should be looking for when I inspect one? I plan on looking at one of each later this week, as well as a 14 Dauntless. Little worried about the internal fuel tanks on all of these models from what I have read.

Thanks

Jefecinco posted 06-21-2009 01:05 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jefecinco  Send Email to Jefecinco     
Gholby,

The internal fuel tank on my 1999 Dauntless 16 is plastic. These plastic tanks have not to my knowledge presented any problems to owners. They are US Coast Guard approved and quite safe.

There are some complaints of a gasoline smell on the boats but this is normal and not a safety issue.

The ride of the Ventura and Dauntless should be virtually identical assuming the same power and load. The double console Ventura is probably a better family boat and the center console Dauntless is superior for fishing.

The only reason I can come up with for a dissimilar ride or wet vs dry ride is the slight possibility that the helm on one may be slightly more or less forward than the other.

I believe you will be happy with either model as both are wonderful boats.

An important consideration with these hulls is the power installed. the boats were sold with either a 90 or a 115 HP engine installed. I highly recommend the 115 HP engine for optimum performance.

Butch

davej14 posted 06-22-2009 12:46 AM ET (US)     Profile for davej14  Send Email to davej14     
The Dauntless 14 tank is also plastic and should not be a problem. Recommend 75 Hp for the D14.
Sal A posted 06-22-2009 06:06 AM ET (US)     Profile for Sal A    
I had a 200 160 Ventura. I thought it was a wet boat. Sitting behind the windshield did little to protect me from the spray that entered from the side as the boat porpoised. And she did porpoise. Otherwise a really well-made and well designed boat. I think I would been much happier with a 4 stroke engine on mine, and a doel fin.

Marlin posted 06-22-2009 09:57 AM ET (US)     Profile for Marlin  Send Email to Marlin     
I find that my 160 Dauntless is very dry in a head sea or a following sea, but can get pretty wet in a beam sea. Some of the spray gets kicked up and blown back into the cockpit by the wind. But really, how dry do you think a 16 foot boat can get?

I think they're great boats, there are no issues with the fuel tanks (though as Butch says there is a bit of a smell, and things you store in the center console may stink a little). The early models with an integrated fuel filler vent have a reputation of being difficult to fuel. Later models (some time around model year 2000) added a separate fuel tank vent to the port topsides.

A 115 engine is preferable, especially if you're talking heavier 4-strokes. Avoid the 4-stroke 90, it has the worst power-to-weight ratio of all the engine choices. Plan on installing a lower unit hydrofoil if the boat doesn't already have one.

If you look at the 14 Dauntless, or even the 15 Dauntless, you'll find that they are much, much smaller boats than the 16s -- more so than the small difference in length would suggest. The 160 Dauntless and Ventura are really quite a lot of boat in 16 feet, probably about the "biggest-boat" 16s out there.

-Bob

Richard Quinlivan posted 06-23-2009 09:07 PM ET (US)     Profile for Richard Quinlivan  Send Email to Richard Quinlivan     
There never was a 16 Ventura. There is an 18 and a 20. The 18 replaced the 17 Dauntless Dual Console which first came out in 1995. It was discontinued in 1999 I believe and was replaced by the the 18 Venturain that year. Therefore a comparison between a18 Ventura and 18 Dauntless can be made.

Dick Quinlivan

davej14 posted 06-23-2009 09:36 PM ET (US)     Profile for davej14  Send Email to davej14     

"There never was a 16 Ventura. There is an 18 and a 20. The 18 replaced the 17 Dauntless Dual Console which first came out in 1995. It was discontinued in 1999 I believe and was replaced by the the 18 Venturain that year. Therefore a comparison between a18 Ventura and 18 Dauntless can be made."

This is going to be quite a surprise to a friend of mine who has one !!

TransAm posted 06-23-2009 09:54 PM ET (US)     Profile for TransAm  Send Email to TransAm     
Whaler made a 16' Ventura for 4 years. 2000-2001 as a 16' Ventura an 2002-2003 as a Ventura 160
Rich S posted 06-23-2009 09:58 PM ET (US)     Profile for Rich S  Send Email to Rich S     
"This is going to be quite a surprise to a friend of mine who has one !! "


lol

whaler.com has the parts diagrams posted for the 160 Ventura from 1999 to 2003

falcon posted 06-30-2009 11:20 AM ET (US)     Profile for falcon  Send Email to falcon     
I have a Dauntless 160 and think the seating is a better design than the Ventura.Most boats I see with lower seats behind a windshield,the driver kneels on the seat for a better view.With a Dauntless it is quite effortless to ajust the seat and tilt the wheel for different conditions.I would also recommend the 115 hp since they are a heavy boat.I have not heard someone say "I wish my boat had less power."

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