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eriks posted 02-19-2010 10:54 PM ET (US)   Profile for eriks   Send Email to eriks  
With the great topic going on in the GAM regarding auxilliary power, it makes me think yet again of my 22' Dauntless which currently has no kicker, a situation I would like to remedy.
My Dauntless has a 225 Verado (which is operating flawlessly at 260hrs), but with a full tank of gas, the scuppers are well below the waterline.
I absolutely love my boat, but have read (and agree with) various other threads here regarding how stern heavy the 220 Dauntless is.
Have any of you guys installed a kicker on this wonderful boat, and does it handle the extra transom weight fine or should I just forget it? I generally boat in the fairly protected waters of the PNW, but sometimes things do get a little snotty. I do troll for salmon, so would benefit from a kicker.
Any feedback will be greatly appreciated.
SJUAE posted 02-20-2010 03:06 AM ET (US)     Profile for SJUAE  Send Email to SJUAE     
I really like the 220 and nearly got one 6 years back.

You dont state what year yours is but it would be a shame if you can't mount a kicker.

My Outrage 210 (2006) handels it well with very little list considering I have it mouted well to port than most.

I would suggest you have someone stand where the kicker would be mounted and observe the effect to scupper line etc.


Jefecinco posted 02-20-2010 10:45 AM ET (US)     Profile for Jefecinco  Send Email to Jefecinco     

It's pretty certain that adding a kicker to the transom will lower your your scuppers even more. Perhaps you can get someone weighing approximately the weight of the kicker you're considering to sit on the Verado. That should closely approximate the amount of water your scuppers will admit.

There are devices designed to prevent scupper backflow. Rabud Marine is one source. If you trailer your Dauntless the Rabuds are pretty much maintenance free. If the boat is kept on a mooring or in a slip marine growth on the Rabuds will require periodic removal.

Adding weight to the anchor locker might raise the scuppers sufficiently to get them out of the water. Perhaps lead divers weights would serve. Depending on how you use your cooler seat you could also possibly add some weight there. I assume the seat is ahead of the fore/aft fulcrum.


elaelap posted 02-21-2010 01:59 PM ET (US)     Profile for elaelap  Send Email to elaelap     
Here's a follow-up to Butch's comment about trimming:
eriks posted 02-22-2010 09:30 PM ET (US)     Profile for eriks  Send Email to eriks     
Thanks fellas!
The feedback is greatly appreciated. What I have learnt from my first post is that so much of this stuff is covered to some degree in previous threads, maybe not entirely to the degree I would like, but mostly so. I also learnt about using my midship cleats (thanks Tony!; I was an avid Hobie sailor prior to getting my '05 Dauntless).
I do have trim tabs and two kids who love to sit at the bow, so underway I have lots of control over the attitude/pitch of the boat. My concern stemmed mainly from the static trim only, but I guess it's not such a big deal, even though my boat is moored at a marina.
I will place my downrigger weights in the anchor locker and see what that does. I don't really want to carry too much more weight, but appreciate what you were conveying Tony, in the thread you referred me to. Having sailed Hobie's, I fully understand the principles of weight distribution on a boat.
I was thinking of moving my batteries forward, into the console, but also read that the kicker on the port side may compensate for the batteries on the starboard side.
So once again, thanks. I still have my work cut out for me and will spend many more hours on this site reading all the old threads that will hopefully push me in the right direction.
elaelap posted 02-23-2010 10:51 AM ET (US)     Profile for elaelap  Send Email to elaelap     
You're very welcome, Erik. As I said somewhere early in that long linked thread, I've been a member of this great website for seven or eight years and though I yap a great deal (many will say a great deal too much), I think the only substantive things I've contributed over the years concern the use of midships/springline cleats, especially when boating alone, and the use of additional small amounts of weight to help trim one's craft. I'm not surprised to hear that you're an experienced sailor, BTW. Sailors are much more in tune with both these suggestions than many of those motorboaters who oppose the ideas on theoretical terms and who refuse to try them for themselves.

Best regards and welcome to this forum.


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