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WisED posted 07-26-2010 10:07 AM ET (US)   Profile for WisED   Send Email to WisED  
The water was like glass, the sky was clear. Full moon is out. Speed 30mph using 14GPH with 8 on board. The verado is quiet enough that even at that speed voice communication with the guys in the rear of the cockpit was effortless. Using the nav and radar, navigation through the laberynth of the Apostle islands was a breeze. Great ride. Work on Monday.......damn
K Albus posted 07-26-2010 10:17 AM ET (US)     Profile for K Albus  Send Email to K Albus     
We need pictures, please.
Buckda posted 07-26-2010 01:03 PM ET (US)     Profile for Buckda  Send Email to Buckda     
Ed -

Sounds like a great night on the water. I love operating the boat at night - there's something magic about it.

Dave

Hal Watkins posted 07-26-2010 02:36 PM ET (US)     Profile for Hal Watkins  Send Email to Hal Watkins     
Do the commercial fishermen pull there nets out at night?
Buckda posted 07-26-2010 02:39 PM ET (US)     Profile for Buckda  Send Email to Buckda     
Hal - not on Lake Huron or Lake Michigan.
WisED posted 07-26-2010 04:20 PM ET (US)     Profile for WisED  Send Email to WisED     
Sorry no pics I was driving. The riders took some I have to see when and if they are forwarded :(
David Pendleton posted 07-26-2010 11:08 PM ET (US)     Profile for David Pendleton  Send Email to David Pendleton     
Commercial fishing is actually quite common in the Apostle Islands. I do not know when they actually pull their nets.

While the nets themselves are deep below the surface, their bouys and markers are invisible to RADAR.

A boat actively pulling nets would be very visible on RADAR, especially since traditional L. Superior fishing tugs are made of steel and have high, flat sides.

If you'd like to know more about this type of boat, visit:

http://www.harveyhadland.com/

WisED posted 07-27-2010 09:07 AM ET (US)     Profile for WisED  Send Email to WisED     
Furthermore, essentially all fish nets are not in the main channels. In my short expirience they are almost always on bay inlets. The bouy's are truly not a hazard to navigation since they are small and the boat woud just brush them aside, The nets proper are a few feet below the surface, thus not a hazard to boats. The only thing the nets are a hazard to is downriggers.
number9 posted 07-27-2010 10:42 PM ET (US)     Profile for number9  Send Email to number9     
Nets and buoys? Possible accident waiting to happen at that speed at night.
WisED posted 07-28-2010 09:43 AM ET (US)     Profile for WisED  Send Email to WisED     
Again they are not a navigation hazard since the nets are fairly deep underwater and the "bouys" are primarily milk jugs. At most you will hear a thunk if you hit one. That is if they are even out there at night (which I don't know).
Buckda posted 07-30-2010 10:47 AM ET (US)     Profile for Buckda  Send Email to Buckda     
Significant caution should be exercised when navigating at night.

However, if you are familiar with great lakes waters, and are in open bays and on the lake, you have very little chance of coming across a commercial fishing net. Most are located within 1/4 mile of shore or a reef, and most are located away from main navigational channels.

In short, I don't think that fishing nets are enough of a problem to raise any more caution than you already should be exercising at night.

As Ed mentions, for most outboard powered boats, they are too deep to cause any significant problems for your boat, unless you run right over a buoy and tangle the lower unit in it's leash.

A bigger concern when operating at night - at least for me, would be other unlighted hazards...like logs, debris and drunk boaters.

WisED posted 07-31-2010 01:24 PM ET (US)     Profile for WisED  Send Email to WisED     
Agree completely with the logs and drunks etc. Aside form the floating hazards the big difference is electronics (of course). Using the Raymarine c90W all you have to do is to build a night navigation "page" on one side the the nav on the other the radar, that provides you with constant up to date navigation awareness in all situations. If the night is clear adding those 2 is almost like navigating in daylight. I have found the high def platinum map from navionics to be fantastic, though not 100% I'd give it a solid >95% accuracy for even the smallest navigational hazards. If you stay off the shore in the main channels its definitely >99%. I only wish I had an even larger screen (or 2)! But as we all know that entails a lot more $$$$$! A decent, base system: High def radar, sonar, nav and weather runs over 10K installed! For nubies like me its hard to understand how people got around without them. Calipers, maps, compasses, LORAN; the horror, the horror......

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