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dnh posted 08-23-2010 09:01 PM ET (US)
I have a 1995 Outrage 21. I called to order the folding transom gate (original owner had removed it).
I was told that the mold had been destroyed and it was no longer available. I said, "but this hull is still made and sold as a 21 Justice."
They told me I could order an unknown size and unkown look non-gated folding starboard transom piece.

I don't want that. I have seen the double-folding gate previously and would love to have that.
If anyone is nice enough to (1) make their boat or gate available to me if they live near Charleston SC or (2) take pics and also send me the various dimensions, I would be VERY appreciative.
tmann45 posted 08-23-2010 09:16 PM ET (US)
Don't know what you mean by "double-folding" gate, but my 1996 model has a fold down gate in front of the splash well. I can have measurements and pictures by next weekend.
tmann45 posted 08-28-2010 08:35 PM ET (US)
Measurements are:
Width: 67.25"
Height: 11.125"
Cutout for engine when tilted up:
Width at top: 23"
Width at bottom: 16"
Height: 5" (cutout is 6.125" deep)
Cell phone picture going direct to your email.
Tom
draftsman posted 08-31-2010 08:34 PM ET (US)
The only transom gates the 21 & 24 OR's had were made of starboard and only folded one way because of the gate jams that were installed on each side....
SJUAE posted 09-01-2010 05:04 PM ET (US)
The whaler parts diagram for the 1998 model shows the single fold down with latches etc
Regards
Steve
dnh posted 09-03-2010 08:18 PM ET (US)
Thanks drafstman, but no, they were not made of starboard.
They are now. And they no longer fold. Whaler destroyed the mold.
They were single folding, not double, but they were made of fiberglass.
draftsman posted 09-04-2010 09:15 AM ET (US)
There might have been a CPD version, but as far as the REC side went, having drawn every part, fabrication, assembly, and installation for that boat, I can tell you there was no fiberglass transom gate option offered, nor is there a BOM or P/N for such a creature, and lord knows it had a lot of options.... I even re-checked the bills, as I happen to have a copy, in case I was starting to lose what remains in my mind from those days, but no, there's nothing there.... The only model that I recall having a glass "gate" is the 27 Offshore, and it only folded down... Have any pics of this part? Am now very curious...
tmann45 posted 09-05-2010 10:02 PM ET (US)
draftsman, pic sent to your email.
tmann45 posted 09-05-2010 10:38 PM ET (US)
draftsman: sent pic to your listed email, response:
Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients.
Subject: FW: Fold Down Transom Pic
Sent: 9/5/2010 9:01 PM
The following recipient(s) cannot be reached:
'mailto:tjohn427@bellsouth.net' on 9/5/2010 9:01 PM
Server error: 'Invalid recipient'
Send me your correct email if you want the picture.
draftsman posted 09-06-2010 12:06 PM ET (US)
Well, that is my email, don't know why it didn't come, but pics of what? I know what the starboard looks like, was wondering about the glass one...
tmann45 posted 09-09-2010 11:40 AM ET (US)
Picture is of a fiberglass fold down splash well gate on a 1996 Outrage 21. I will try your email again.

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Author	Topic: Pictures of folding transom gate on 1993-1998 21 Outrage
dnh	posted 08-23-2010 09:01 PM ET (US) I have a 1995 Outrage 21. I called to order the folding transom gate (original owner had removed it). I was told that the mold had been destroyed and it was no longer available. I said, "but this hull is still made and sold as a 21 Justice." They told me I could order an unknown size and unkown look non-gated folding starboard transom piece. I don't want that. I have seen the double-folding gate previously and would love to have that. If anyone is nice enough to (1) make their boat or gate available to me if they live near Charleston SC or (2) take pics and also send me the various dimensions, I would be VERY appreciative.
tmann45	posted 08-23-2010 09:16 PM ET (US) Don't know what you mean by "double-folding" gate, but my 1996 model has a fold down gate in front of the splash well. I can have measurements and pictures by next weekend.
tmann45	posted 08-28-2010 08:35 PM ET (US) Measurements are: Width: 67.25" Height: 11.125" Cutout for engine when tilted up: Width at top: 23" Width at bottom: 16" Height: 5" (cutout is 6.125" deep) Cell phone picture going direct to your email. Tom
draftsman	posted 08-31-2010 08:34 PM ET (US) The only transom gates the 21 & 24 OR's had were made of starboard and only folded one way because of the gate jams that were installed on each side....
SJUAE	posted 09-01-2010 05:04 PM ET (US) The whaler parts diagram for the 1998 model shows the single fold down with latches etc Regards Steve
dnh	posted 09-03-2010 08:18 PM ET (US) Thanks drafstman, but no, they were not made of starboard. They are now. And they no longer fold. Whaler destroyed the mold. They were single folding, not double, but they were made of fiberglass.
draftsman	posted 09-04-2010 09:15 AM ET (US) There might have been a CPD version, but as far as the REC side went, having drawn every part, fabrication, assembly, and installation for that boat, I can tell you there was no fiberglass transom gate option offered, nor is there a BOM or P/N for such a creature, and lord knows it had a lot of options.... I even re-checked the bills, as I happen to have a copy, in case I was starting to lose what remains in my mind from those days, but no, there's nothing there.... The only model that I recall having a glass "gate" is the 27 Offshore, and it only folded down... Have any pics of this part? Am now very curious...
tmann45	posted 09-05-2010 10:02 PM ET (US) draftsman, pic sent to your email.
tmann45	posted 09-05-2010 10:38 PM ET (US) draftsman: sent pic to your listed email, response: Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients. Subject: FW: Fold Down Transom Pic Sent: 9/5/2010 9:01 PM The following recipient(s) cannot be reached: 'mailto:tjohn427@bellsouth.net' on 9/5/2010 9:01 PM Server error: 'Invalid recipient' Send me your correct email if you want the picture.
draftsman	posted 09-06-2010 12:06 PM ET (US) Well, that is my email, don't know why it didn't come, but pics of what? I know what the starboard looks like, was wondering about the glass one...
tmann45	posted 09-09-2010 11:40 AM ET (US) Picture is of a fiberglass fold down splash well gate on a 1996 Outrage 21. I will try your email again.