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SteviLad posted 09-20-2010 11:12 PM ET (US)   Profile for SteviLad   Send Email to SteviLad  
Just purchased a 2010 170 Montauk & considered another hydrofoil for the 90HP Merc.
I've had hydrofoils on prior Whalers I've owned. A doel-fin on a Dauntless 14 with a 50HP Yamaha, & a Sting Ray on a 190 Nantucket with a 150 Opti. No issues & both performed well.
I've read mixed reviews on the hydrofoils on this site & a few others. Reviews on the Smart Tabs have been very good & I decided to try them on the Montauk.
Easy install with minimal fuss & the results of a quick trial on the water were impressive. The only issue is that they sit right between the transom tie downs & the trailer eyes. How big a deal is it to have new tie down sites installed on a galvanized trailer for attatching the transom straps?
SteviLad posted 09-20-2010 11:17 PM ET (US)     Profile for SteviLad  Send Email to SteviLad     
http://s717.photobucket.com/albums/ww176/SteviLad/2010%20Boston%20Whaler%20170%20Montauk/


http://s717.photobucket.com/albums/ww176/SteviLad/ 2010%20Boston%20Whaler%20170%20Montauk/

Jefecinco posted 09-21-2010 10:11 AM ET (US)     Profile for Jefecinco  Send Email to Jefecinco     
It should not be a problem to have new eyes welded to the trailer crossbeam below the towing eyes. Any competent welder can fabricate new eyes from round stock and attach them. You will want to renew the zinc coating as well as possible. As zinc coatings applied from a spray can or with a brush tend not to stand up as well as hot dipped zinc coating you will need to maintain the new eyes carefully.

Butch

Ricky posted 09-21-2010 12:16 PM ET (US)     Profile for Ricky  Send Email to Ricky     
Not pertaining to your question, but the photo of the fuel tank caught my eye. Is it fiberglass? Did it come with new boat? Brand?

I have an 07, 17 foot Montauk with a Pate fiberglass tank which I am told is not compatible with ethanol. May replace with rig you have pictured.

contender posted 09-21-2010 12:39 PM ET (US)     Profile for contender  Send Email to contender     
It would be easier and cheaper to purchase two close eyes with (stainless or galvanized, 3/8 or bigger) bolts threads and just drill a hole in the trailer and attach them. Back them with some over size washers and spray them with some grease to protect them....Take care
whale posted 09-21-2010 12:47 PM ET (US)     Profile for whale  Send Email to whale     
let us know how the smart tabs working for you.
ScooterCO posted 09-21-2010 01:28 PM ET (US)     Profile for ScooterCO  Send Email to ScooterCO     
"It would be easier and cheaper to purchase two close eyes with (stainless or galvanized, 3/8 or bigger) bolts threads and just drill a hole in the trailer and attach them. Back them with some over size washers and spray them with some grease to protect them"

X2 on this one. Easily done at home and you will have them positioned exactly where you want them. Overall it will be the best to maintain down the road for corrosion monitoring.

I beleive that fuel tank is the new Moeller 24 gal. The current discussion is
http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/018886.html

SJUAE posted 09-21-2010 03:51 PM ET (US)     Profile for SJUAE  Send Email to SJUAE     
It would be simpler to bend galvanised stud bar or flat bar to form a simple u bolt or bracket with a lug that would require no drilling or welding to your trailer or you could buy ready made ones from a good trailer parts company

Regards
Steve

SteviLad posted 09-21-2010 07:12 PM ET (US)     Profile for SteviLad  Send Email to SteviLad     
Thanks for all the replies & suggestions.....much appreciated!
That is a Moeller 24 gallon tank. Its installed off to the port side under the seat since the fuel line exits to starboard. The dealer installed a long narrow brace on the floor to the right of the tank to hold it in place along with the straps also installed into the floor (deck) under the seat. Tank was $208 @ iBoats.com & hold down kit was $49.
The Smart Tabs seem to work well. Smooth easy quick planing & I'm able to keep the nose down at a lower RPM with the engine kicked up a bit & stay on plane without any porpoising. I'll have to do some sea trials to adjust the shocks on the tabs since there a 5 different positions for the bottom bolt which allows you to adjust the downward pressure. Very cool having these on the boat......I think a better choice then the engine mounted hydrofoil.
SteviLad posted 09-21-2010 09:04 PM ET (US)     Profile for SteviLad  Send Email to SteviLad     
Here are some shots of the tank & motor stabilizer bracket

http:/ / s717. photobucket. com/ albums/ ww176/ SteviLad/ 2010%20Boston% 20Whaler%20170%20Montauk/ ?action=view& current=IMG_2602. jpg#!oZZ1QQcur rentZZhttp%3A%2F%2Fs717. photobucket. com%2Falbums%2Fww176%2FSteviLad%2F 2010%2520Boston%2520Whaler%2520170%2520Montauk%2F%3Faction%3Dview%26curr ent%3DIMG_2602. jpg%26


http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ Product_10151_-1_10001_37340_225011000_225000000_225011000_225-11-0

wldrns1 posted 09-24-2010 07:26 AM ET (US)     Profile for wldrns1  Send Email to wldrns1     
Before having your trailer modified, look under the the rear cross member. There are plenty of extra holes for the tiedown hooks. On mine, the bunks extends beyond the hull. Tiedown straps when hooked in cross member underside holes fully contact the end of each bunk and don't rub on the hull.
muskrat posted 09-26-2010 06:14 PM ET (US)     Profile for muskrat  Send Email to muskrat     
SteviLad, I own a 190 nantucket, as a fellow owner would you recommend Smart Tabs for this boat. I should probably start a new topic but maybe the moderator will let this one slide.
SteviLad posted 09-26-2010 07:17 PM ET (US)     Profile for SteviLad  Send Email to SteviLad     
I owned a 190 Nantucket prior to this boat & installed a Sting Ray hydrofoil.
I've only had the Smart Tabs for a short time on the Montauk, but I think these are a better choice then the hydrofoil & improve performance & handling at minimal expense & easy installation. I would have put them on my Nantucket!
SteviLad posted 09-27-2010 04:50 PM ET (US)     Profile for SteviLad  Send Email to SteviLad     
Thanks for the tip wldrns1.
It actually was a fairly easy fix. Grabbed some 5 inch stainless eye bolts & popped the black caps on the top of the cross member & installed the 2 eyes below where the bunks are which helps keep the buckle & straps away from the hull.
No drilling a galvanized cross member needed.

http://s717.photobucket.com/albums/ww176/SteviLad/ 2010%20Boston%20Whaler%20170%20Montauk/?action=view¤t=IMG_2674.jpg

http://s717.photobucket.com/albums/ww176/SteviLad/ 2010%20Boston%20Whaler%20170%20Montauk/?action=view¤t=IMG_2672.jpg

wldrns1 posted 09-28-2010 07:39 AM ET (US)     Profile for wldrns1  Send Email to wldrns1     
SteviLad, you're welcome. I was able to simply put the tiedown hook into the trailer beam hole without adding anything. Your arrangement looks good though. May want to check the eyebolts to see if they deform (modern materials!). If so, try putting hook right in the hole. Glad that worked out.

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