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northeastern posted 02-22-2012 06:27 PM ET (US)
I'm looking at getting of of these for my first boat. Reasons being its fairly cheap (I'm graduating this year so don't have a ton of money to burn) It will be new so I don't need to worry about anything going wrong as long as I do proper maintenance (I'm out of Newburyport and the river can get ripping, the last thing I need is to lose power with a strong outgoing tide. I own a jeep wrangler that has a 2k towing limit and don't want to exceed that by much and the 15 is around 1700 with trailer, or so I hear. And finally because it looks to have the stance to keep me dry and somewhat comfortable when out on the open ocean.

I'm here looking for opinions, stories and suggestions as to why to or not to buy the boat. I will be using it mostly in a river or in a clam bay and avoid the rough river mouth near me. But it will be almost always on the ocean and will be seeing some waves.

My last question is how do these compare to older 15's? Would it be worth getting a classic and having it restored and used? I'm worried the older ones will sit lower and be less comfortable in the ocean.

Thanks for the help everyone.
L H G posted 02-22-2012 07:25 PM ET (US)
For your use, I would recommend the 150 Montauk over the Super Sport. That is boat you could use offshore, as it is almost the size of the prior classic 16-7 Montauk, and you can stand for driving.
A classic 15 is not much boat for offshore and has very low freeboard, plus you have to sit very low in the boat.
GreatBayNH posted 02-22-2012 07:49 PM ET (US)
Don't forget to add gas and other gear you'll throw in that boat before towing. It adds up. 2K towing limit is a little low for my taste with a 1700 dry weight tow. That said my Ford Windstar had a 3K towing limit. A Jeep may not be the best towing vehicle with the short wheel base.
I have a 2006 Montauk 170 up here on the Piscataqua. I use it in the river, bay and go out to the shoals from time to time. You definitely want a Montauk (or higher model) and nothing smaller than a 150 to enjoy the river and north atlantic with any comfort.
northeastern posted 02-22-2012 08:06 PM ET (US)
I know I can tow the 150 sport its "test weight" on the whaler site is 1700 lbs with 300 lbs of people in the boat. So subtract people, add a trailer and I bet it's right at 2k.

The 150 montauk is the other boat I was thinking about as it is still right under my 2k limit with trailer.

Aren't the mantauks and sports the same general boat excep a walk around vs a sit down? Will the montauk handle any different? I liked the sport because it reminds me of a little jet boat my parents had when I was a kid, it was the first boat I was aloud to take out alone and was a blast (fresh water only though).
Thanks for the help
andrey320 posted 02-22-2012 08:29 PM ET (US)
The 150SS looks to be a really cool boat!
As L H G suggested, do take a look at the 150 Montauk. In addition to the benefits he mentioned, it will probably allow you to drive the boat standing up (which I don't think can be done in a 150SS). Being able to drive standing up, allows you to use your legs as suspension and not your back....
sportroyalwulf posted 02-22-2012 09:09 PM ET (US)
If you want a center counsel then the 150 montauk is a great choice. If you are ok with bench seats then consider a pre 2011 150 sport. You will have the traditional whaler lines, look, and hull structure. I have owned a 150 sport since 2003. I think the 60 hp merc bigfoot is as strong as a garlic milkshake with low maintenance.
northeastern posted 02-22-2012 09:50 PM ET (US)
I hope this isn't a dumb question but why a pre 2011? Did they change something in the design?
I know I have seen both 10's and 11's in person at boat shows and the alike, but I can't recall any changes at all.
sportroyalwulf posted 02-23-2012 12:16 AM ET (US)
I am not sure when the "new style" super sports came out.
I think I meant pre 2010 (when the super sports came out).
The following model is what I referenced as the pre 2011 or pre 2010 150 sport:
http://bouldercity-nevada.olx.com/ 2008-boston-whaler-150-sport-iid-265711432
GreatBayNH posted 02-23-2012 11:34 AM ET (US)
Getting that close to max towing capacity would make me nervous (sans trailer brakes). Here is one thread regarding towing with a Jeep Wrangler.
http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/002719.html
I'm sure there are more threads out there if you go looking.
Treypescatorie posted 02-24-2012 07:46 PM ET (US)
Towing a 15 foot boat with a wrangler would not bother me. I used to tow my 17 foot Bayliner Capri with a 1984 Honda Accord. I retired the car after 270k miles.
GreatBayNH posted 02-27-2012 08:01 AM ET (US)
It's not the length one should worry about as much as the weight. Especially if the weight is near or exceeds the towing capacity of you tow vehicle.
whale posted 02-28-2012 04:55 PM ET (US)
I have the 150 montauk. Its great boat. to have the option to stand up or sit makes a big difference. Its cheap on fuel, havent had too many days I used the second tank.
macfam posted 03-01-2012 08:19 AM ET (US)
Being out of Newburyport, do you ever fish? You are in Striped Bass heaven.
In addition, with the mighty Merrimack, and open ocean, standing up is often favorable to sitting. The 150 Super Sport may have the "sports car" look and feel, but in your waters, I think the 150 Montauk is a better all around choice.
Although the classic 15 is a great boat, the new hulls are awesome, with more freeboard and lots more weight. The result is a "bigger boat" feel.
At peak tide/current, and an opposing wind, the mouth of the Merrimack can be treacherous, either 150 will be OK, but I still lean toward the Montauk.
I think the 150 Montauk will also deliver better resale when time comes to sell or move up.
GreatBayNH posted 03-01-2012 11:27 AM ET (US)
As a 170 Montauk owner, and boating in the mighty Piscataqua, Great Bay and open ocean, I couldn't imagine anything smaller than 17'. I may have 2 foot-itis but I often lament not having more space and a deeper V-hull when going out 10+ miles into blue water as well as fighting the strong river currents.

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Author	Topic: 2012 150 Super Sport
northeastern	posted 02-22-2012 06:27 PM ET (US) I'm looking at getting of of these for my first boat. Reasons being its fairly cheap (I'm graduating this year so don't have a ton of money to burn) It will be new so I don't need to worry about anything going wrong as long as I do proper maintenance (I'm out of Newburyport and the river can get ripping, the last thing I need is to lose power with a strong outgoing tide. I own a jeep wrangler that has a 2k towing limit and don't want to exceed that by much and the 15 is around 1700 with trailer, or so I hear. And finally because it looks to have the stance to keep me dry and somewhat comfortable when out on the open ocean. I'm here looking for opinions, stories and suggestions as to why to or not to buy the boat. I will be using it mostly in a river or in a clam bay and avoid the rough river mouth near me. But it will be almost always on the ocean and will be seeing some waves. My last question is how do these compare to older 15's? Would it be worth getting a classic and having it restored and used? I'm worried the older ones will sit lower and be less comfortable in the ocean. Thanks for the help everyone.
L H G	posted 02-22-2012 07:25 PM ET (US) For your use, I would recommend the 150 Montauk over the Super Sport. That is boat you could use offshore, as it is almost the size of the prior classic 16-7 Montauk, and you can stand for driving. A classic 15 is not much boat for offshore and has very low freeboard, plus you have to sit very low in the boat.
GreatBayNH	posted 02-22-2012 07:49 PM ET (US) Don't forget to add gas and other gear you'll throw in that boat before towing. It adds up. 2K towing limit is a little low for my taste with a 1700 dry weight tow. That said my Ford Windstar had a 3K towing limit. A Jeep may not be the best towing vehicle with the short wheel base. I have a 2006 Montauk 170 up here on the Piscataqua. I use it in the river, bay and go out to the shoals from time to time. You definitely want a Montauk (or higher model) and nothing smaller than a 150 to enjoy the river and north atlantic with any comfort.
northeastern	posted 02-22-2012 08:06 PM ET (US) I know I can tow the 150 sport its "test weight" on the whaler site is 1700 lbs with 300 lbs of people in the boat. So subtract people, add a trailer and I bet it's right at 2k. The 150 montauk is the other boat I was thinking about as it is still right under my 2k limit with trailer. Aren't the mantauks and sports the same general boat excep a walk around vs a sit down? Will the montauk handle any different? I liked the sport because it reminds me of a little jet boat my parents had when I was a kid, it was the first boat I was aloud to take out alone and was a blast (fresh water only though). Thanks for the help
andrey320	posted 02-22-2012 08:29 PM ET (US) The 150SS looks to be a really cool boat! As L H G suggested, do take a look at the 150 Montauk. In addition to the benefits he mentioned, it will probably allow you to drive the boat standing up (which I don't think can be done in a 150SS). Being able to drive standing up, allows you to use your legs as suspension and not your back....
sportroyalwulf	posted 02-22-2012 09:09 PM ET (US) If you want a center counsel then the 150 montauk is a great choice. If you are ok with bench seats then consider a pre 2011 150 sport. You will have the traditional whaler lines, look, and hull structure. I have owned a 150 sport since 2003. I think the 60 hp merc bigfoot is as strong as a garlic milkshake with low maintenance.
northeastern	posted 02-22-2012 09:50 PM ET (US) I hope this isn't a dumb question but why a pre 2011? Did they change something in the design? I know I have seen both 10's and 11's in person at boat shows and the alike, but I can't recall any changes at all.
sportroyalwulf	posted 02-23-2012 12:16 AM ET (US) I am not sure when the "new style" super sports came out. I think I meant pre 2010 (when the super sports came out). The following model is what I referenced as the pre 2011 or pre 2010 150 sport: http://bouldercity-nevada.olx.com/ 2008-boston-whaler-150-sport-iid-265711432
GreatBayNH	posted 02-23-2012 11:34 AM ET (US) Getting that close to max towing capacity would make me nervous (sans trailer brakes). Here is one thread regarding towing with a Jeep Wrangler. http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/002719.html I'm sure there are more threads out there if you go looking.
Treypescatorie	posted 02-24-2012 07:46 PM ET (US) Towing a 15 foot boat with a wrangler would not bother me. I used to tow my 17 foot Bayliner Capri with a 1984 Honda Accord. I retired the car after 270k miles.
GreatBayNH	posted 02-27-2012 08:01 AM ET (US) It's not the length one should worry about as much as the weight. Especially if the weight is near or exceeds the towing capacity of you tow vehicle.
whale	posted 02-28-2012 04:55 PM ET (US) I have the 150 montauk. Its great boat. to have the option to stand up or sit makes a big difference. Its cheap on fuel, havent had too many days I used the second tank.
macfam	posted 03-01-2012 08:19 AM ET (US) Being out of Newburyport, do you ever fish? You are in Striped Bass heaven. In addition, with the mighty Merrimack, and open ocean, standing up is often favorable to sitting. The 150 Super Sport may have the "sports car" look and feel, but in your waters, I think the 150 Montauk is a better all around choice. Although the classic 15 is a great boat, the new hulls are awesome, with more freeboard and lots more weight. The result is a "bigger boat" feel. At peak tide/current, and an opposing wind, the mouth of the Merrimack can be treacherous, either 150 will be OK, but I still lean toward the Montauk. I think the 150 Montauk will also deliver better resale when time comes to sell or move up.
GreatBayNH	posted 03-01-2012 11:27 AM ET (US) As a 170 Montauk owner, and boating in the mighty Piscataqua, Great Bay and open ocean, I couldn't imagine anything smaller than 17'. I may have 2 foot-itis but I often lament not having more space and a deeper V-hull when going out 10+ miles into blue water as well as fighting the strong river currents.