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jimh posted 01-27-2013 08:55 AM ET (US)   Profile for jimh   Send Email to jimh  
This Saturday our local SE Michigan Boston Whaler dealer held a private, in-house boat show for invitees. It was really a nice way to see the new Boston Whalers in their inventory, along with some SEA RAY and MERIDIAN boats. On the showroom floor were

--130 SPORT

--150 SPORT

--190 MONTAUK with 135-HP [150-HP] VERADO

--190 OUTRAGE with 135-HP [150-HP] VERADO

--250 OUTRAGE with twin 200-HP VERADO

--370 OUTRAGE with triple VERADO

I didn't climb aboard the two smaller boats. They were equipped with Mercury FOURSTROKE engines, and the engine cowlings had the new graphics with the black, silver, and red style that was first seen on the recently developed 150-HP FOURSTROKE (or VERADOSAURUS) engine. These 50 or 60-HP outboards were not gargantuan, and their size looked appropriate to the hulls. These smaller Boston Whaler boats are really sturdy. They look like they will last 50-years.

I waited to board the 190 MONTAUK while a couple of fellows were giving it the once-over. Their wives were standing nearby, admiring the boat. One of the ladies remarked, "That is a really big outboard engine, isn't it?" Her companion said, "Yes, it is huge. It looks like it ought to be on a much bigger boat." The VERADO engine had ENERTIA propellers.

The 190 MONTAUK felt beamier than the 190 OUTRAGE. The 190 OUTRAGE has wider gunwales, and the inwales are capped by upholstered bolster cushions. This steals several inches from the cockpit width. The 190 OUTRAGE was priced about $7,000 more, but most of that was probably due to the T-Top option. These boats also had COSTCO prices, which reflected a nice discount from the boat show special price, which was again at a nice discount from MSRP. The 190 MONTAUK was in the high-40's and the 190 OUTRAGE in the low-50's. They both included nice tandem axle galvanized steel trailers.

The 250 OUTRAGE was priced over $105,000. The console and the helm seat with large molded base fill up a lot of the cockpit space. Aft of the bait preparation station there is not a lot of open cockpit space for a 25-foot boat. The sloping Euro-transom also takes up an extra foot or two. The supports for the T-Top are beautifully designed and very skillfully crafted to integrate seamlessly into the helm console. There is extremely skillful pipe bending and fabrication shown in this structure. The seat base and leaning post seemed as if it were not sufficiently rigid. If you leaned against the seats, the base seemed to deflect slightly, as if its structure was not quite as rigid as you'd expect.

The 370 OUTRAGE was amazing. Concealed below deck and beneath the helm console is a really inviting cabin with a large bunk. The forward cockpit is enormous. The helm was set up with twin 14-inch Raymarine multi-function displays. The scale of this boat is so great that even triple VERADO engines do not overwhelm it. The engines are so far aft and lower that I could not easily see their horsepower decals to determine if they were the standard 250-HP models or the optional 300-HP models. There was no mention of price. I would guess it must be close to $500,000.

This was a swanky affair: valet parking, open bar, big lunch buffet with excellent food, a cigar lounge, and a genteel crowd. In addition to the Whalers there were plenty of Sea Ray boats, including a 54-footer. With the lavish promotion and the staggering price tags, I was struck with the confidence and optimism the dealership must have about selling these big-ticket luxury items. Among the 200 to 300 people at the event, I wondered if there was a buyer for each of these yachts.

Jefecinco posted 01-27-2013 10:30 AM ET (US)     Profile for Jefecinco  Send Email to Jefecinco     
Jim,

Is it possible those 135 HP Verados were left over from a couple of years ago or has Mercury resumed production of that engine? I would have expected to see 150 HP Verados on the two 190 boats on display.

I'm very happy with the performance of the 190 Montauk with a 135 HP Verado but I have to agree that it is a very large engine. Perhaps the engine in it's 200 HP version will seem more appropriately sized.

Butch

jimh posted 01-27-2013 10:56 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
Butch--The engines on the 190 MONTAUK and 190 OUTRAGE were probably 150-HP VERADO. For some reason I remember them as 135-HP, but that's probably unlikely. I see that 150-HP is the standard engine for the 190 OUTRAGE, and an option on the 190 MONTAUK. All the L4 VERADO engines are the same size. On the 190 MONTAUK the gunwale height is somewhat low, and that tends to emphasize the bulk of the VERADO.
jimh posted 01-27-2013 12:56 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
On the aft side of the helm seat base on the 370 OUTRAGE there is a nice galley set up that Boston Whaler calls "the Summer Kitchen." This is a wonderful feature. The aft facing counter top is covered by a big hatch, and underneath is a grill, a sink, and a work surface. There is also a pull-out drawer refrigerator that opens to the side. And, of course, all sorts of storage drawers, plus a live well with circulating pump. This assembly probably costs more than my boat's present value!

The only mysterious element: to fold down the covering hatch lid, the towel rack must nestle into the sink, so you have to remove the sink cover board. I couldn't figure out where the sink cover board was supposed to stow for storage. I know Boston Whaler must have a planned space for it, somewhere close.

Mambo Minnow posted 01-27-2013 03:39 PM ET (US)     Profile for Mambo Minnow  Send Email to Mambo Minnow     
The "Summer Kitchen" is a nice option and Boston Whaler is making it also available on the new Vantage series, which at 23 feet and 27 feet is a much smaller boat than the 370 Outrage.
onlyawhaler posted 01-29-2013 01:17 AM ET (US)     Profile for onlyawhaler  Send Email to onlyawhaler     
I would really, really love to walk on and go out on a 370 Outrage.

That is such a far cry from reality at our meager Salt Lake City boat show that is just sad. We are lucky to get a single 130 Supersport there. And a brochure.

I have never been to the Miami boat show. Would love to go. Do we have a continuouswave group of Whaler owners that are going and hanging out together.

Can I come, hangout with anyone from here that is going? I just get lost by myself

Sterling
Onlyawhaler

Jefecinco posted 01-29-2013 08:45 AM ET (US)     Profile for Jefecinco  Send Email to Jefecinco     
Sterling,

Check with Ferdinando aka Fred. See the GAM.

Butch

conch posted 01-29-2013 10:16 AM ET (US)     Profile for conch  Send Email to conch     
What is the fuel source for the grill ?

Chuck

bluewaterpirate posted 01-29-2013 11:22 AM ET (US)     Profile for bluewaterpirate  Send Email to bluewaterpirate     
The grill is electric .........
bluewaterpirate posted 01-29-2013 11:26 AM ET (US)     Profile for bluewaterpirate  Send Email to bluewaterpirate     
The summer kitchen ooption includes two additional 12 v batteries and an inverted dedicated to running the grill. If the batteries are fully charged they will provide high heat for one hour and medium heat for 1.5 hours. These batteries are NOT charged by the motor(s) but by an onboard charger connected to shore power.

The grill is made by Kenyon

bluewaterpirate posted 01-29-2013 12:10 PM ET (US)     Profile for bluewaterpirate  Send Email to bluewaterpirate     
A new variation of the Conquest 315 will make its debut at the Seattle Boat Show. The Conquest 315 Pilot House.

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/c67.0.403.403/p403x403/ 387062_10151209250016268_520808019_n.jpg

Tom

jimh posted 01-30-2013 01:34 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
I forgot to mention:

On the 250 OUTRAGE with twin VERADO engines, I was very surprised to see that those engines only carry a Two-Star rating for emissions. I had no idea that the popular VERADO could not meet emission requirements for Three-Star Rating.

Peter posted 01-30-2013 07:24 PM ET (US)     Profile for Peter  Send Email to Peter     
The Verado line hasn't been 3-star since they came out with the 2nd generation.
jimh posted 02-04-2013 03:14 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
Peter--Thanks. I was confused. I thought that only a limited number of models of the VERADO, like the really high-horsepower 300-HP or 350-HP models had been forced down to the Two-Star rating. Now I see the whole line of the VERADO engines is Two-Stars. There is a good discussion now going on about that in THE GAM.

Tom--Thanks for the peak at the 315 CONQUEST Pilot House. Every fall I think about how much longer the boating season could be in Michigan if I only had a pilot house. I think in northern areas the pilot house option will be a good seller.

martyn1075 posted 02-07-2013 03:51 PM ET (US)     Profile for martyn1075  Send Email to martyn1075     
So now they have a 285 Conquest with pilot option and now a 315 with pilot option. Pull out BBQ just beautiful!

Martyn

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