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Treypescatorie posted 11-05-2013 09:41 PM ET (US)   Profile for Treypescatorie   Send Email to Treypescatorie  
Most probably I am going to sell my 21 Conquest. The hull is in very nice shape; for options it has the bimini top, Lowrance chart plotter, Vhf radio and AM/Fm/cd player. The engine is a blown OptiMax 200-HP. Can I sell the hull only? How much could I expect to get? Should I find a used engine, throw that on, and then sell it? How much could I expect selling it with an engine?
Mambo Minnow posted 11-08-2013 03:54 PM ET (US)     Profile for Mambo Minnow  Send Email to Mambo Minnow     
Lots of folks here would probably re-power with an E-TEC. Basshole did exactly that with the same boat. Others would re-power with a modern four-stroke-power-cycle engine.

The boat is definitely worth considering buying now that Whaler no longer produces a Conquest less than 28 feet.

I love mine - It's a trailerable "pocket battleship".

jimh posted 11-08-2013 11:59 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
My opinion--based only on my own feelings and not reflective of any particular experience in trying to sell a boat without an engine--is a used boat that was just re-powered with a used engine is really a double-unknown. I have purchased three used boats with used engines, and in each case I depended on the sellers' representations of how these used engines were operated, maintained, and presently ran. If you buy a used engine, you cannot really give a buyer any sort of personal account of that engine's history or reliability. Lack of that sort of data would have a negative influence on a sale.

Now, to argue with myself, selling just the boat, without a motor, but pre-rigged for Mercury-brand, could also be somewhat limiting. A buyer would either have to be agreeable to buying another Mercury (so he could take advantage of all the rigging), or be willing to pay for all new rigging if he preferred another brand.

The value of a used outboard engine of about 200-HP should be not more than $4,000, unless it is exceptionally new, still under warranty, runs perfectly, and is a freshwater, low-hour engine. The value is also probably going to vary with region and time of year. Call some local dealers and ask if they have any used engines on hand. A dealer may take in a used engine on trade in order to facilitate the sale of a new engine, and the dealer typically does not want the used engine to sit around the showroom very long. The dealer should be able to give you an idea of the upper bound for the price of a used engine in your area.

Mambo Minnow posted 11-09-2013 09:15 AM ET (US)     Profile for Mambo Minnow  Send Email to Mambo Minnow     
As far as market value, this same boat sold this fall for $18K in NY with a working motor. Agree with JimH, deduct $4000 for no motor.
jimh posted 11-10-2013 12:17 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
I think any serious buying would be glad to take a $4,000 mark-down on the boat price to allow for the blown engine. Assume the engine were running; taking a $4,000 mark-down saves the buyer the fuss of trying to sell the old engine for $4,000.

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