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Phil T

[The on-person rendezvous are organized] on Facebook. There were two large private-owner events this summer in Charleston, SC and Lake St. Clair. Two years ago I attended Algonac, Michigan, Lake Norman, North Carolina, and Smith Mountain Lake in Virginia. Boston Whaler dealers have not sponsored eve...

Phil T

Yes. Contact Tom Clark at [TOM@TOMWCLARK.COM].

[Moderator's note: the address originally suggested was not correct. The emended address above is known to be a working email address for the intended recipient.]

Phil T

With today's technology, you can provide so much more information. Use your phone and take videos (1-3 minute) showing: Engine cold start and idle. Engine mounting position on the transom Propeller size and condition. Hard acceleration from no wake speed to 30 mph. (Engine trimmed in) Post videos to...

Phil T

I think you will have better luck fabricating a bow pulpit out of wood. You can use the Revenge/Outrage 25 bow pulpits for reference. I just so happen to have a measured drawing. Not sure how/why I have it. Drawn by Larry Goltz. 25pulpit.jpg If the customer really wants a fiberglass one, I can reach...

Phil T

pcloward--The anti-ventilation plate should be 1-1/2 to 2-inches above the bottom of the keel.

Phil T

I stored my 1987 Montauk in my garage one winter. It was sitting on a galvanized boxed frame trailer, not an I-beam. To make it fit, I blocked the wheels and the frame under the bow. I unbolted the tongue at the intersection of the frame rails and removed the tongue which included the winch post. To...

Phil T

The part that George is refererencing is actually a drain tube and scupper flap assembly. The flap portion is integrated into the aft end of the drain tube. The screws seen are to replace just the flap. The scupper flap referenced by Unomas is just the flap and is installed over the drain tube and &...

Phil T

I have frequently run both my Montauk 17 and Outrage 17 with what I describe as a "full load." Two adults or children sitting in front of the console on the 94qt cooler. One adult standing next to me at the console. Two adults or children sitting on the reversable pilot seat with the seat ...

Phil T

Always good to hear from you George !

Phil T

Thank you Jim, I forgot to mention the keel rollers. Loadrite does not offer keel rollers as an option, most trailer manufactureres do not either. I used a local boat dealer to order the trailer. Since they are not familiar with Boston Whalers and did not have experience with keel rollers I purchase...

Phil T

I do not see one-hole as "good." Two-holes up is, in my experience and research, the minimum. Three holes up is ideal but requires the correct prop and is dependent on use and water conditions. Note for Mercury owners reading this, you have a 5 hole bracket so the minimum is three-holes up...

Phil T

Look for a bunk trailer with keel rollers--not wobble rollers on arms.

The setup on my LOADRITE trailer is shown in Figure 1.

: Fig. 1. A bunk trailer with keel rollers added in pairs to the trailer frame crossmembers.; LoadRiteTrailer.jpg (76.2 KiB) Viewed 105 times

Trailer dealers are like car dealers. You should shop multiple dealers of the same brand, and get their price for the same model.

Phil T

I respectfully disagree with Jim. Two holes up, top bolt in the 3rd hole down from the top. A good stainless prop is required. For the Montauk 17 with a Yamaha F90, the owner tested and recommended propellers include: 13-1/3 x 18 Yamaha Talon (Performance) 13 x 19 Yamaha Painted SS 13 x 19 Powertech...

Phil T

For comfort you are looking at least:

Outrage 20, Outrage 22,
Outrage 210
Montauk 210
Dauntless 200

Anything smaller will be crowded and not fun.

Phil T

I would copy what the owner of the Chapperal in the Youtube video did.

Drill out one or two of the floor inspection ports (they have pry-out lids) and install the fire port. Problem solved.

Phil T

Q2: Outrage what?

Q3: Which model?

[A replacement fuel tank of only 25-gallons] will scare off a lot of buyers, but that is not hard to correct.

Expect to spend $1,500 to $3,500 to have a appropriate fuel tank fabricated and installed. Factor that into the offer price.

Phil T

A real, full-size truck will be needed.

A veteran owner who has been evaluating a 240 VANTAGE this year had a transmission failure on his late model GMC Sierra this summer while towing it to a whaler gathering in South Carolina from Michigan.

Phil T

Use the fuel line and primer bulb to transfer the fuel to a container and then empty into your automobile.

No need to store it full over the winter.

Phil T

Verify the engine is rigged at the appropriate height. [The engine should be mounted two-holes up; see the illustration in the pinned article above on transom mounting height nomenclature for illustrations that show the location of the top engine mounting bolt. ] What is the propeller make, model an...

Phil T

Estimated weights in LBS
Hull = 1800
Trailer = 800
Engine and propeller = 480
Battery = 30
Rigging = 50s
Anchor and chain = 50
Fuel = 240
Cushions = 40
Fenders = 20
Electronics = 10
Tools, misc =20

Total = 3,540-lbs

Phil T

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Phil T

I do not recall a stern light as you described being original to Boston Whaler. There are several after-market vendors that sell two-part stern lights. As for rail mounting, that may be difficult to source. The OEM stern light can be sourced (manufactured by Perko with a modern Fresnel lens) but is ...

Phil T

I would highly discourage trading the boat in for a newer model. With every passing year there is more interest in the "classic" models, especially the OUTRAGE 22 and OUTRAGE 25 models. Prices are starting to climb for boats in good or better condition. At that is not to mention the OUTRAG...

Phil T

Questions for you include: How do you use your boat? - Load of persons and gear? - Distance travelled (long or short) - Typical average cruising speed? Fuel is very expensive in the EU so GPH consumption is an important factor. Which outboard motor brands have quality dealers in your local area? Wha...

Phil T

Adhesive mounts will not last more than a year.

A screw-in mount is recommended with a short, i.e. 3/8" or less, screw. Select an area that has the wood reinforcement/backer. Insert sealant (not adhesive) into the hole prior to the screw.

Phil T

I do not have any SDS prop recommendations from owners for that engine-hull combination. I do have the following: Yamaha 14.25 x 18 Performance Reliance 14.25 x 17 Mercury 14 x 18; or 19-pitch with engine three-holes-up. I would consider going down in pitch 2-inches due to the weight. A four-bladed ...

Phil T

Below are hyperlinks to diagrams from the website Whaler.com https://www.bostonwhaler.com/content/dam/boston-whaler/technical/resources/315-Conquest-Fuel-System-Installation-2013.pdf https://www.bostonwhaler.com/content/dam/boston-whaler/technical/resources/315-Conquest-Hull-Outfit-and-Equipment-Loc...

Phil T

For re-powering a classic 17-foot hull, my choices, in order, are: ⋅ a Yamaha F70, which has the best power to weight ratio, good reliability, and good performance; ⋅ a Suzuki DF90--a great engine at a competitive price; and ⋅ an Evinrude E-TEC [90], but it would be my ...

Phil T

This was original. It was a single year for that horsepower rating.

Note the rating only applies to the manufacturer and you can install any engine you desire.

Enjoy.

Phil T

Yamaha sells Yamaha branded fuel connectors.

I recommend SIM Yamaha for OEM parts.

https://www.simyamaha.com/rigging-1/portable-fuel-tanks-hoses-fittings/

Phil T

You should launch the boat and mark the line with a grease pencil. Add 1".

The alternatives will result in more work.

Phil T

This topic has been covered extensively. Use the site search feature.

Phil T

Clean the battery cable fittings at the battery, the battery switch terminals and the engine

Clean the positive and negative posts at the engine and battery switch with a wire brush.

Retest voltage.

Phil T

[The wood locating diagram for the boat under discussion can be downloaded from the website of Boston Whaler at the URL below:]

https://www.bostonwhaler.com/content/dam/boston-whaler/technical/resources/210-Outrage-Wood-Locating-Models-1999.pdf

Phil T

Do not go with a current model with the minimum horsepower. It will not perform well with a full load and the resale will be really hard. You can add a t-top after you purchase the boat. Would not put on a 170. Too small a hull. Look at the used market. I am seeing more and more late model 2021,22,2...

Phil T

I would change the nylon/plastic drains every 10 years. Less if in a northern cold or very hot climate.

Phil T

The expanded production "boom" of the post covid era is finally deflating.

Want another sign the economy is cooling off: price of diesel. Was $ 0.50 more than unleaded. Now only $0.10. Less demand means less transportation of materials and products.

It is just the start.

Phil T

Do not expect support from Whaler unless this is a warranty item. Only models in current production will get service from Customer Support. I would remove the integrated fill/vent cap and install a separate fill and vent fittings. The vent goes through the gunwale approximately 1-1/2 inches below th...

Phil T

"Can you provide me with a fresh inspection from..."

Oh forget it.... right there.

If they can't see it in person, nope.

Phil T

Most likely trim tab.

It needs to be set so when looking from the back of the engine, straight down, the tail is pointing at the 5:30 position.

How much weight needs to be moved from where to where to establish lateral trim.

Phil T

I have had the pleasure of riding in this boat.

It is in great condition and has been cared for by its owner.

Phil T

You will need a custom cover made for the bow and stern. Typically boats with hard tops do not have a single cover.

Phil T

http://www.easternmarine.com sells OEM parts, including fenders. EDIT -In my haste I did not provide a direct links. Karavan fender page: https://www.easternmarine.com/karavan-trailer-fenders Tires and Wheels: https://www.easternmarine.com/karavan-trailer-tires Personally I prefer LoadStar branded ...

Phil T

You should NOT add a folding tongue to an I beam trailer.

If you want a shorter LOA, sell the I beam and buy a galvanized steel trailer.

My 17 Outrage I, has a LOA that is 22' from prop to coupler.

Look at the Loadrite model specs in my signature.

Phil T

I learned my lesson many years ago.

Run the boat as is for the season and THEN make your list of upgrades.

You may find that your initial ideas change after three-months of use.

Phil T

If you can't get the defects fixed in a timely fashion, find a local shop that does good work and have the dealer pay the bill. Loosing a season of boating due to their delay should be expensive for them. ie. CASH. You should be able to use the boat while you wait for the livewell fix. I presume you...

Phil T

Have known David for a decade.

Good reputaion. Fair player.

Has nice boats.

Bit pricey but less work and effort.

Sort of like Carmax vs regular dealer.

Phil T

I presume you have already called the factory on the current defects and gotten the Engineering department (NOT customer service) involved on the defects. Did the factory get involved on the first buyback or was it the dealer? I would start creating documentation and records for the possible next st...

Phil T

Photos would really help us. Is the exposed fiberglass on the top of the transom? If so this is called the "green line". Again, photos would help. if the cracks are very small and short, they are called crazing. These are superficial. If the cracks are thicker (wider than your finger and r...

Phil T

I have been on both [an OUTRAGE 18 and an OUTRAGE 17 II] off the New England coast in snotty conditions.

The Outrage 17 II hands down handles better due to its hull design and added weight.

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