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Tom L posted 11-15-2000 05:48 PM ET (US)   Profile for Tom L   Send Email to Tom L  
Is the Montauk not self-bailing? I have noted bilge pumps declared as options on some boats advertised for sale. Thanks, Tom L
compounder posted 11-15-2000 06:07 PM ET (US)     Profile for compounder  Send Email to compounder     
Tom I'll tell you up front that my Montauk was a little heavy in the stern due to an Evinrude 115 and dual rear mounted batteries. I experimented by pulling the plug at the dock and ended up with about 6 inches of water in the boat. Not exactly self-bailing, but it sure wasn't going to sink either. I suspect that even a lightly loaded Montauk would allow some water to remain on deck, causing practical and cosmetic problems, such as the thin film of marsh mud that floats on the surface of my salt water creek. Therefore, the simplest thing to do is add a small bilge pump in the opening just in front of the drain plug. I find this to be most satisfactory except I have not been able to run the drain hose in a very neat way---I have it attached to the steering cable and aimed over the transom.
Clark Roberts posted 11-15-2000 06:58 PM ET (US)     Profile for Clark Roberts  Send Email to Clark Roberts     
I think to be truly "self-bailing" the deck must be above the waterline! Even with a 50hp engine the Montauk deck (at the extreme stern) will we slightly below the waterline and therefore take a little water over deck. Not a problem, as mentioned!
triblet posted 11-16-2000 10:18 AM ET (US)     Profile for triblet  Send Email to triblet     
I think the Montauk would selfbail on plane.
I have a bilge pump because a gallon or
two comes on board with my dive gear and its
a pain to pull the plug. Much easier to just
flip the bilge pump switch.

The factory also routes the blige pump hose
along the steering then over the top of the

Chuck Tribolet

Tom L posted 11-16-2000 10:38 AM ET (US)     Profile for Tom L  Send Email to Tom L     
Thanks guys. All good info. To
Clark Roberts posted 11-16-2000 11:20 AM ET (US)     Profile for Clark Roberts  Send Email to Clark Roberts     
A white plastic though-hull fitting (with barb on inside) installed high through the transom makes a nice installation and looks more professional and more in keeping with the Whaler look... also to route the hose along with the other cables and wires makes for the possibility that flexing etc. can cause hose failure... everyone to his own solution, of course, just presenting my opinion here... takes a little time to drill, install etc. but worth it for the appearance and functionality... Happy Whalin' ... Clark... The Old Opinionated Man and the Sea
Tom L posted 11-16-2000 12:16 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tom L  Send Email to Tom L     
Clark: Good Opinion. After you get over the first thru-hull, they become less traumatizing. Some years ago,beached my 30 S/R. Heeled her over a few inches, drilled a hole installed a 1.5" thru hull just at waterline. Spent a few sleepless nights. Still floating when I sold her. Thanks, Tom
dgp posted 11-16-2000 12:25 PM ET (US)     Profile for dgp  Send Email to dgp     
The factory installed bilge pump discharges into the small motor well via a "poor mans" through-hull fitting then the water drains out of the 2 scuppers. If anyone wants a photo of this rube goldberg setup I'll gladly email it. Don
Dan posted 11-16-2000 01:14 PM ET (US)     Profile for Dan  Send Email to Dan     
Most Montauks I've seen, mine included, route the 7/8" white bilge hose into the motor well and out one of the scuper holes. The hose is less than a dollar a foot at West Marine, comes in bright white, is ribbed for flexing, and every foot has two inches of smoothness for insertion through scuper hole. I looked for a through hole fitting for the scuper but couldn't find one the correct size. No matter, it stays in place just fine. I bought two 1" nylon cable routers to keep it ship shape. My 500gph Rule is automatic and turns on every two minutes or so. If this annoys you just do what I do and loosen one end of the fuse.
lhg posted 11-16-2000 02:44 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
Those auto cycling Rule pumps can drive you crazy, I agree. I use one, but have it on a console switch, so I can turn it off when not needed at all.

BW's earlier catalogs showed the bilge pump hose, routed as you describe, but in clear plastic hose instead.

Dick E posted 11-16-2000 09:39 PM ET (US)     Profile for Dick E  Send Email to Dick E     
The Guardian brand pumps work great. It's rectangle and sits in the rear part of the tunnell.
It has an internal float the comes on automaticly when needed.
It has a manual override at the console.

Pull the drain plug out and you will have 4-5 inches of water in your boat.

Get that boat on plane and it will be bone dry in minutes.

triblet posted 11-16-2000 11:10 PM ET (US)     Profile for triblet  Send Email to triblet     
Rule has a Platinum series pump that's
smarter. After five dry tries on the
2.5 minute cycle, it goes to a 10 minute

But the 2.5 minute cycle doesn't bother

Chuck Tribolet

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