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scottfarm1 posted 11-19-2000 06:25 AM ET (US)   Profile for scottfarm1   Send Email to scottfarm1  
what is the best setup for a livewell in a montauk.
dgp posted 11-19-2000 06:46 AM ET (US)     Profile for dgp  Send Email to dgp     
Scottfarm, I'm researching the same question. Of course this question is preceeded by many other questions.
Do you trailer or keep the boat in the water?
How long do you want to keep the bait alive?
What kind of bait will you keep in the well?
What's your budget?
Do you want to build your own or buy one?
I'm anxious to here others' recommendations.
scottfarm1 posted 11-19-2000 05:23 PM ET (US)     Profile for scottfarm1  Send Email to scottfarm1     
Don, I trailer my montauk 65 miles to the coast. I Live 1/4 mile from Lake Seminole and the apalachacola or chattahoochee river. I keep it on a trailer. When I go to the coast I would like a live well for pin fish--pogies-or mullet-to keep them alive for the day--I'm leary of having a dc motor for areation because of battery drain and irritating sound--would like live well to look nice and willing to spend some money. I saw one allthough shabby looking made out of 1/3 plastic 55 gallon drum with two hoses running out of it--one discharged into motorwell--the other ran to a pickup tube(90 degree half inch copper fitting mounted on transom--kinda rubarb looking for a nice montauk---anyother suggestions from anybody
dgp posted 11-19-2000 05:58 PM ET (US)     Profile for dgp  Send Email to dgp     
Scottfarm, from what you described and willing to spend some money to DIRTFT, check out this web site . Don
scottfarm1 posted 11-19-2000 06:33 PM ET (US)     Profile for scottfarm1  Send Email to scottfarm1     
Hey Don I ain't willing to spend that much money
Ponchee posted 11-19-2000 08:05 PM ET (US)     Profile for Ponchee  Send Email to Ponchee     
I just use a 5 gallon bucket or small ice chest with a submerged filtered bilge type pump with the pvc pipe rising above the waterline. I run the wires to a spare battery I bring when I fish with bait.

I always freeze a few bottles of water to keep the temperature low in the bucket.
This is very important.

I have to keep an eye on the water level and water condition though.
I usually simply dump a small bucket of water in it every now and then after I scoop out part of the existing water. (A pain)

I fish Gaveston Bay and use shrimp which are sensitive to dirty or contaminated water.
Shad tend to shed a bunch of scales so you have to clean the filter fairly often to keep the water clean.

I'm planning to build a system like the one scottfarm1 described.
The ones I've seen were kludgy at best also.
(But I bet they work well)
That will keep the water as cool as the bay and eliminate the filter maintenance.
The automatically controls the fluid level while the pump constantly fills it.
I'm thinking to hard mount a transom type pump to my transom engine mount bolts on a sheet metal bracket. Run a hose into the cooler and let it drain overboard through the engine dump tray.

My only problem with this setup is the copoler stays in the back and it's a pain for the lucky guy fishing up front.
We usually use the small bucket to save trips.

I'd also install a screen for the shrimp to cling too.. ..that seems to work also.
The best non pump setup I've seen was on an aluminum Jon Boat.
It had the oversized screeened cutouts on each side of the bottom of the boat.
The natural rocking of the boat would tend to flush the baitwell quite well.
I've been trying to scheme a way to do that but have come up empty except for chunking it overboard.... ..then all I'd have would be a fancy baitbucket...

alvispollard posted 11-20-2000 11:41 AM ET (US)     Profile for alvispollard  Send Email to alvispollard     
I have a Kodiak 14 gallon. It comes with a 500 gph rule pump. It is perfect for my montauk. It fits between the reversible pilot seat and the CC. I have it on the port side, offsetting the weight of the dual batteries which are in the rear and starboard side. My hose runs from the transom under the rail to center of boat. It will keep 18 pogies lively for 8 hours on the hottest days. By being in the middle of boat, they are under my Mills top and out of the sun most of the time. The Kodiak is available from several sporting catalogs for just over $100. I have used this setup for 7 years of King Mackeral fishing.
Ponchee posted 11-20-2000 03:41 PM ET (US)     Profile for Ponchee  Send Email to Ponchee     
I like the Idea of it being centrally located and in the shade!
Sounds like it works well.

Does it get in the way when driving or getting something from the console?

I assume the hose is for over flow, huh?

Dick E posted 11-20-2000 08:26 PM ET (US)     Profile for Dick E  Send Email to Dick E
Go to this website. click on bait tank
They carry the Vest tank (Superbait Systems II).

It will keep shad alive for days.
The new airation system put thousand of bubbles in the tank.

I have a 30 gal,which I bought used, a 20 gal would fit nicely in the stern.

Pricey, but will last a lifetime.

alvispollard posted 11-20-2000 09:31 PM ET (US)     Profile for alvispollard  Send Email to alvispollard     
Kodiak Bait Tank is Model PF-014. West Marine has it for $150. It is 14 gallons. The size is 16" (diameter) and 23" (height). Fits perfect between seat and CC on port size. Pilot sets on livewell and those fishing set on reversible facing rear. This Kodiak is round and the hose comes over transom, threads under rail to center of montauk and into Kodiak. This hose comes from pump, located on botton of transom. Provides 500 gph. Overflow hose hangs over side of gunwale. Full of water, Kodiak weighs 123 lbs. Perfect offset of dual batteries on starboard rear. You will love this setup and the lively bait that last all day.

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