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|Author||Topic: Purchase Montauck??|
posted 08-23-2001 02:45 PM ET (US)
Considering the purchase of an approx 1995
Montauk with a 90hp. Iwould want to use it
arond the somewhat shallow waters of Pine
Island, Florida and New Jersey. People tell
me the Carolina Skiffs would be good for Fl.
I just have a hard time warming up to the Skiffs. Anybody willing to offer any guidance?
posted 08-23-2001 04:40 PM ET (US)
Buy the Montauk. You will have no regrets. It will also hold it's value extremely well.
I have seen a great many Carolina Skiffs and you will definitely get more boat for your money. However, the quality is not the same and I'm assuming the resale value isn't either.
It is like I read in another post, the Montauk isn't perfect, but it does so many things well (very versatile). It only draws 9 inches of water for your shallow water use.
posted 08-23-2001 08:33 PM ET (US)
I owned a 1993 Carolina Skiff w/ a Johnson 90. I got rid of it two years later. I know there are pictures of Carolina Skiffs that have been cut in two, and others with a bulldozer parked on the hull - but it is no Whaler. It would probably do the kind of fishing you want to do without any problem with the hull. The bottom of the boat is absolutely flat, and will beat you to death in any chop at all. It was also an amazingly wet boat. It would throw sheets of water over the bow in any conditions, including flat calm days in the ocean. Even the gentle swells of a calm ocean would result in gallons of water coming over the bow. I have ridden in a Montauk on the St. John's River in Jacksonville, FL, and the ride was nothing like the Carolina Skiff. I will be selling my big center console boat to buy a Montauk this winter.
posted 08-23-2001 08:55 PM ET (US)
I have never been in a Carolina Skiff, but I have seen plenty of them, and find it very easy to believe and understand Traveller's remarks about them.
I *have* been in a Montauk (mine) all around the Pine Island area, Useppa, Cabbage Key, Boca Grande, Sanibel, etc. and found it to be a delightful way to get around, and to fish from.
posted 08-23-2001 09:56 PM ET (US)
Being from NC I have seen the birth of the Carolina Skiff, later to be Southern Skimmer, and back again to Carolina Skiff. The flat bottom of choice right now is the Jones Brothers. Heck of a boat. However, Traveller is right, they aren't a rough water boat. They aren't even a "moderate chop" boat. The manufacturers are now reshaping the hulls a bit where they aren't absolutely flat but they are what they are.
As has been said many times, the Montauk is probably not the best boat for anything, but it has to be the best for everything. Just my .02.
posted 08-24-2001 01:31 AM ET (US)
I just got back from a little after work fishing in my Montauk on Monterey Bay (Pacific Ocean). There is a nice little 4-5 foot groundswell running and an offshore breeze. I ran the boat at 30 mph into the swells and with following seas and stayed dry. I also had the confidence to get in close enough to the beach to do a little surf casting.....Buy the Montauk!
posted 08-24-2001 07:54 AM ET (US)
I have often thought, while running the "jumping bean" through Pine Island waters, how neat it would be to have a Montauk to ply them with. Its versatility is perfectly suited to those waters, whether you want to gunkhole, beach, leave channels or be sure you can get home if a blow comes up.
The Montauk sure would have my boat, er vote, for all around dinkin' down there.
A simple guy: Harpoon Harry
posted 08-24-2001 08:23 AM ET (US)
Shame on me! Oh well what the heck there are other boats which can fill your needs and budget other than Whalers,yeah all know --
DPB take a look at the Maritine skiffs since your looking for alternatives http://mskiff.com/who/index.html
posted 08-24-2001 09:19 AM ET (US)
I owned a Carolina Skiff along with 11 Boston Whalers, notice I said "A" Carolina Skiff. Do Not make the mistake, get the Montauk which is what I currently own and LOVE!
posted 08-24-2001 02:39 PM ET (US)
I currently own a 1995 Montauk with a 90 horse Merc. Great boat on big water (Lake Michigan) The boat is often mistaken for new. Stick with the Whaler. If you don't mind me asking how much is the boat?
posted 08-24-2001 05:00 PM ET (US)
Hey Milwaukee! Just jumped ship from AG Edwards to Raymond James. So much fun this last couple of weeks.
posted 08-25-2001 03:36 PM ET (US)
Many thanks to all for your help-your input is greatly appreciated. Always liked the Montauk but the concern was the shallow water east of Pine Island where we will be staying.
Milwaukee Whaler-The package price is 12,500 but I just learned the boat was run aground(apparantly at very high speed) & the lower shaft was severed. A new lower unit was
installed which I am trying to get more info
but this makes me hesitate on the whole deal
posted 08-27-2001 11:21 AM ET (US)
Hey Bigshot, congrats on the move. I hope you get free tickets to all Bucs game. Good luck with the ACATS process. RAY JAY is a better firm anyway.
posted 08-27-2001 11:28 AM ET (US)
Be carefull, considering the history (salt water and being run aground) the price may be a little steep. It is tough to miss those oyster bars around Pine Island. Even the guides I have fished with have trouble dodging them in a falling tide. Keep us posted!
posted 08-27-2001 01:35 PM ET (US)
Thanks! back to the Montauk...I ripped a lower off my brand new Hydra sport with 14.2 hours on it. Had a new one installed and that was in 1994, still going strong. would not be a major concern, especially if there was no real hull damage and a water test is positive.
posted 08-27-2001 01:59 PM ET (US)
Kingfish-What type of engine did you have on your Montauk when navigating Pine Island area? We will be on the east side of the island a little north of Pine Island Road.
They tell me in January at low tide there
is an area that is 20" deep.Do you think with a 90hp 4 stroke with people, etc of
600-750lbs I would have trouble?
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