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hollyj posted 11-10-2001 02:25 AM ET (US)   Profile for hollyj   Send Email to hollyj  
I recently purchasede a mid 80's 13' sport from the original owner. He referred to the wood as teak, I took the original front hatch to a wood shop, they said teak, I purchased teak and recreated the hatch in solid teak. But I only see mahagony referenced for these Whalers. It looks like teak.
bigz posted 11-10-2001 07:04 AM ET (US)     Profile for bigz    
The anchor locker was marine grade plywood with a mahogany veneer face -- though they may have substituted teak ply on some boats --- either way makes little difference your solid teak will last longer than the plywood ---
hollyj posted 11-10-2001 09:30 AM ET (US)     Profile for hollyj  Send Email to hollyj     
thanks for that info. I should add that the seats, console and side boards are all varnished and all including the old veneer have the same look, which is considerably lighter than the new oiled solid teak.
JFM posted 11-10-2001 09:33 AM ET (US)     Profile for JFM  Send Email to JFM     
Bigz, when did they change from solid mahogany? Both my'69 and '72 13's were solid mahogany. Regards, Jay
bigz posted 11-10-2001 09:38 AM ET (US)     Profile for bigz    
late 70's I think -- even our '78 Outrage was plywood -- our '89 13 is plywood --
JBCornwell posted 11-10-2001 11:21 AM ET (US)     Profile for JBCornwell  Send Email to JBCornwell     
Even varnished, mahogany will bleach even lighter than oiled teak. What a boat has now is little evidence of what it had originally. Many of you have upgraded/changed Classics, so have I. My last 13, a '75, left me with solid mahogany hatch, seats, console and sideboards. I think the original hatch and console were plywood.

My '82 OR18 will soon have a solid teak front hatch cover. Boy, will that cause arguments in 20 years.

Red sky at night. . .
JB :)

Highwater posted 11-10-2001 09:19 PM ET (US)     Profile for Highwater    
My 1972 13' has an anchor locker cover made of marine grade plywood with a mahogany veneer face. The seats are solid mahogany.
70_Katama posted 11-10-2001 09:24 PM ET (US)     Profile for 70_Katama  Send Email to 70_Katama     
Is this console Mahagony or teak? From what I read it could go either way?

JBCornwell posted 11-10-2001 10:30 PM ET (US)     Profile for JBCornwell  Send Email to JBCornwell     
It is probably Mahogany plywood, Katama, but, depending on who had it before it could be anything.

Red sky at night. . .
JB :)

Angryeel posted 11-11-2001 08:13 PM ET (US)     Profile for Angryeel  Send Email to Angryeel     
64 17', origional console was ply with mahog vaneer, some of the other wood was solid mahog. The whole fold foward seat may be solid, not sure of the anchor locker, but console was certainly ply.
lhg posted 11-12-2001 04:00 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
Whaler's conventions on wood are quite simple, and true to Marine standards. If it was varnished, it was philippine mahogany, either solid or marine grade plywood veneer.
(incidentally, the bow locker lid on my 1971 Nauset, which I purchased new, was mahogany plywood) Varnished mahogany was the only wood used on Whalers from 1958-1970.

If it was never varnished frin the factory, it was teak, usually oiled. Many owners, however, do varnish their teak themselves, but it didn't come from the factory this way. Whaler's very first introduction of teak was on the 1971 Outrage.
Then it was introduced on the Montauk in 1974, and the 2nd generation Outrages in 1978. In 1991, the new design team headed by Peter VanLancker under Reebock, determined to get rid of all wood in Whalers, both varnished and oiled, and began the phase out, which was complete by 1994, and continues to this day under Sea Ray. Most new buyers are happy with this solution.

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