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controller posted 02-04-2002 01:23 PM ET (US)   Profile for controller   Send Email to controller  
Here is my dilema.

I can get a 2001 leftover 18 dauntless with a 135 merc optimax and trailer with comfort package, bimini,pylon for around $30,000.

Or I can get a 2002 set up the same way for about $35900, or a 2002 with a leftover 2001 150 evinrude for $33900, same options.

My other choice is a 2001 leftover 16 set up with same options as 18. Two leftovers, one with a 90 honda 4 stroke, the other with a 115 evinrude.

The final choice is a 2001 that the dealer took in trade that was only used 3 months. It has same options with a 115 merc for about $19,450.

I plan to use it mostly within a few miles of shore in Eastern CT Long Island sound. Although, I might like to go out further occasionally on nice days.

Am i going to be sorry for saving $10,000-$14,000 dollars with a 16 vs the 18? Is the 18 going to give me that much more room and security/better ride/more flexibility.

My big problem is It is hard to make a decision without a ride because of the winter weather. They all said I could make offer subject to demo when weather gets better. But that will just allow me out of the deal if i don't like the boat. By that time I would assume the other boats at those prices will be gone.

I think I am leaning towards the 3 month old use 16 daunless.


Dave Murray posted 02-04-2002 01:32 PM ET (US)     Profile for Dave Murray  Send Email to Dave Murray     
Third paragraph- what are the costs on these three rigs???? so far, I like the $20k 16' used which you should be able to dicker down a bit...
Bigshot posted 02-04-2002 02:07 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
Ditto on the 16'. The depreciation is gone. 2 years out you will lose very little. The 18 you are married to for a l-o-n-g time, not bad if you love the boat....if. Chances are no matter what you buy in a couple years you'll want a 20' so go cheap and trade later.
White Bear posted 02-04-2002 02:19 PM ET (US)     Profile for White Bear  Send Email to White Bear     
If you're going to use the boat a lot in the Sound, I'm not sure the 16' or even the 18' will satisfy you in the long run - perhaps you should look further for an older Whaler in the 20'-22' range. With careful shopping you should be able to find one for less than 20K units.
controller posted 02-04-2002 02:23 PM ET (US)     Profile for controller  Send Email to controller     
as for my first post the two leftover 2001 were in the $24,000 range with trailer.

thanks for the help so far.

the used 16 also comes with a vhf and new bottom paint.

Drisney posted 02-04-2002 02:57 PM ET (US)     Profile for Drisney  Send Email to Drisney     
are you going to keep it in the water? If not you do not want the new bottom don't want bottom paint at all if trailering
controller posted 02-04-2002 04:00 PM ET (US)     Profile for controller  Send Email to controller     
the boat will be in the water at a slip.
hardensheetmetal posted 02-04-2002 05:53 PM ET (US)     Profile for hardensheetmetal  Send Email to hardensheetmetal     

Back in june/july of last year, I was pretty seriously looking for a used 18 Dauntless and had looked at some new 16's. Both seemed like great boats, I actually put money down on one and made an offer on another. I beleive they are very versitile boats and very well suited to cruising, sking, light fishing, pretty much anything. I think the one drawback especially for you would be their seaworthiness around The Gut and Block Island Sound. In the end I needed a shallow draft boat, that could be seaworthy between CT and Block Island (on the right days) and was fairly new and dependable, so I did not choose the Dauntless.

But, I still think they could be a great near shore boat for that area. I would call over to Hampton Bays Marine in Long Island. I drove (three hours) to look at a 99 Dauntless with a 115 Evinrude. Nice boat, sun top, bottom paint, trailer. Slightly underpowered though - but- the motor is warranteed until may of 2005 which is worth something. Anyway...I just checked Yachtworld and the boat is still there, I'm preety sure you could work a pretty good deal since it has been there almost a year.

Let us know how you make out

Dan Harden

Dan posted 02-04-2002 08:17 PM ET (US)     Profile for Dan  Send Email to Dan     
I boat on the sound with a 17 Whaler and think you should look in the 21 foot and over range. Wakes from other boats can really dampen a weekend outing.
tbyrne posted 02-05-2002 09:57 AM ET (US)     Profile for tbyrne    

What did you end up buying? I boat and fish in the same area and finding the right boat is a challenge.

hardensheetmetal posted 02-05-2002 11:02 AM ET (US)     Profile for hardensheetmetal  Send Email to hardensheetmetal     
tbyrne -

I ended up buying a 20' Maritime Skiff with a pilot house. I really need a shallow draft boat to get in and out of the dock at my house at low tide. The MS had a 10" draft, but still had a decent 'V' (definately not that of an Outrage) enough to be comfortable in a chop. I also felt better about taking a 20' boat out in the sound as compared to a 17. The boat was a 99 with 70hrs., bottom paint (which I needed) and the price was right. Not really an 'offshore boat', but if I pick my days, It should do well for me.


blackdog posted 02-05-2002 12:40 PM ET (US)     Profile for blackdog  Send Email to blackdog     
I have seen a few 16's with 90's on them for sale in the high teen range w/ trailer. $24,000 is too high IMHO. I paid that new and I think it was too much!


controller posted 02-05-2002 06:03 PM ET (US)     Profile for controller  Send Email to controller     
I think I made a decision. See my other post, evinrude, for the details.

Let me know what you think.

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