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John Starks posted 03-12-2002 12:49 PM ET (US)   Profile for John Starks   Send Email to John Starks  
I need information to replace the front wooden hatch cover of a 17' Striper. Anyone have any suggestions?
marc monreal posted 03-12-2002 08:58 PM ET (US)     Profile for marc monreal  Send Email to marc monreal     
John, I was in need of a forward hatch for my Montauk. I decided to make one myself since I have sometime off from work. Total cost was about $90.00. Last coat of varnish goes on tommorrow. I am very happy with the outcome.
Regards, Marc
Bigshot posted 03-13-2002 10:08 AM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
Starboard looks good too.
Eric posted 03-13-2002 09:18 PM ET (US)     Profile for Eric  Send Email to Eric     
I have been considering Starboard to replace my front hatch cover, but am concerned that it might be slippery when wet. Since I don't have a bow rail, and usually fish alone, that could be really bad.
Tom W Clark posted 03-14-2002 01:18 AM ET (US)     Profile for Tom W Clark  Send Email to Tom W Clark     
Starboard looks like dog doo and is expensive to boot. Do it right. Do it with wood.
Bigshot posted 03-14-2002 10:21 AM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
It does not look like Dog Doo Tom. I think the front hatches made of starboard look nice and unlike varnish, hold up well. I have seen many smaller skiffs done in starboard and although I prefer the Mahogany, I think it is a nice alternative.
marc monreal posted 03-14-2002 10:34 AM ET (US)     Profile for marc monreal  Send Email to marc monreal     
Starboard looks o.k. , but their is nothing like a nice piece of mahogany or teak with six to eight coats of varnish.
Regards, Marc
JBCornwell posted 03-14-2002 11:35 AM ET (US)     Profile for JBCornwell  Send Email to JBCornwell     
Okay, lets try it this way:
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hauptjm posted 03-14-2002 12:58 PM ET (US)     Profile for hauptjm    
JB, that looks great. I planned on hinging my front hatch, a la several members of the site. I may just go ahead a make a teak front hatch, then hinge as planned. It definitly gives you a more yacht feel and look.
JBCornwell posted 03-14-2002 04:25 PM ET (US)     Profile for JBCornwell  Send Email to JBCornwell     
I think I will hinge mine, too, Hauptjm, along the long starboard edge.

Several months ago someone, I think it was Tom Clark, gave detailed instructions, including West part#s for the hinges, how to do it.

Red sky at night. . .
JB :)

hauptjm posted 03-15-2002 11:30 AM ET (US)     Profile for hauptjm    

What are the dimensions of the wood? Also, it looks like they used a "breadboard" finishing trim on the aft edge, is this correct? Lastly, did they use any cross boards for strength and alignment on the underneath side? I'm seriously considering this project this summer. My first thought was the expanse of the hatch would require bracing.

If you check Cetacea page 24, my 18OR has three hatches across the closed ransom. These are considerably smaller in breadth, and have cross braces. I even thought of using a V router bit between the boards that make up the hatch, so it matches the other hatches. Thanks for the info.

JBCornwell posted 03-15-2002 12:14 PM ET (US)     Profile for JBCornwell  Send Email to JBCornwell     

Yes, the stern edge was breadboarded. I think I like it better that way for strength, but it isn't a big deal

There is a 1x4 bracing board underneath.

I think Gil intends to V-groove the replacement for imrpoved drainage and to make it look more like the Montauk covers.
That would, of course, suggest that he not breadboard the stern edge and add another underneath brace near the stern instead.

I have not told him how to do it. He has forgotten more about this sort of thing than I know.

The dimensions I gave the woodworker are:

35-1/4'X 37", small end 11" wide, short sides 13" long.

The fit of the broken one is/was nearly perfect but could be made a little better by narrowing the small end about 1/4"

Of course you will have the original cover to work off of.

Red sky at night. . .
JB :)

hauptjm posted 03-15-2002 02:01 PM ET (US)     Profile for hauptjm    

Sorry, I should have been more specific. I was inquiring about the dimensions of the materials (board thickness), not the hatch itself.



JBCornwell posted 03-15-2002 05:46 PM ET (US)     Profile for JBCornwell  Send Email to JBCornwell     
Yes. Well, He used 3/4" because that is how deep the "well" is.

Red sky at night. . . .
JB :)

Eric posted 03-17-2002 10:01 PM ET (US)     Profile for Eric  Send Email to Eric     
I'm still wondering about the footing on a piece of starboard. Has anyone tried it for this application, and stood on it with wet feet?
WWonderful posted 03-18-2002 10:41 AM ET (US)     Profile for WWonderful  Send Email to WWonderful     
Reference to the front hatch. I'm looking for mahogoney 3/4'' marine plywood. Does any body no where to purchase it. I only found one place in N.J. and it was $200.00 a sheet. Fishsthix
hauptjm posted 03-18-2002 12:14 PM ET (US)     Profile for hauptjm    
Thanks JB. If the changes to grooving the boards does happen, I'd love to see the final version. The "grooves" on my other hatches run from side-to-side. Originally, I thought of grooving the forward hatch fore-to-aft. Obviously, this won't work do to the shape. So, it's back to a side-to-side grooving. This is starting to sound like a 50's Motown song.

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