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lakesidelou posted 05-22-2002 06:56 PM ET (US)   Profile for lakesidelou   Send Email to lakesidelou  
Help! I am trying to decide which boat to purchase. I originally had a 1988 13 ft. GLS powered by a Yamaha 40 which I enjoyed very much. I was already to purchase a 2002 13 ft. Sport when I found out that Whaler is in the process of introducing a new 15 ft. model. The 15 ft. won 't be available till sometime in July. My local dealer has a 13 ft. in stock now. The 13 is loaded with comfort package, bow rail, mooring cover and a bimini top. Plus I would add several other non Whaler options which would bring total price of the boat to about $13000.00 tax, title, out the door. Which by the way, I feel is very reasonable price . While the price of the 15 although not oficially available would have to be at least $16000.00 The 15 will be 15ft 5in in length have a 6" wider beam and has bit more freeboard than the 13. It will also come with a 60hp Mercury 2 stroke as standard equipment. The new 15 will be a side console with an adjoining removable bench seat. The downside as far as I'm concerned is that the high back seat available on the 2002 13ft. will not be made available on the new 15 ft. Instead a bench seat helm with a shorter seatback that only reaches up about as high as your lower ribs will be the only seatback available. This back will also apply to the 13 ft. model in 2003 as the higher back will be dicontinued on this model as well. Is there any of you who own a 2002 13 ft. Sport who can give me any insight on likes or dislikes. What about the 15? Should I wait and see or go for the 13 while it"s still available? Thanks in advance for your replies.
jbtaz posted 05-22-2002 07:52 PM ET (US)     Profile for jbtaz  Send Email to jbtaz     
I have a 2002 sport 13 with the comfort package and bow rail along with the new Merc 40EFI 4 stroke. I love it. It is a smooth riding and stable hull. The 4-stroke EFI Merc is whisper quiet. I am kind of surprized that you heard they are discontinuing the cushioned backrest. It is very comfortable. I would definalty recommend this boat (the way I equipped it).
jbtaz posted 05-23-2002 05:31 PM ET (US)     Profile for jbtaz  Send Email to jbtaz     
On more thing, pretty much the only dislike I have on the boat is where they installed the removable stern light pole. (on the drivers console)..For night cruising, which I do from time to time, I find it way too bright. It should be mounted in the stern. It's something that can easily be done. Other than that I really mean it when I say this boat has been great. (I also owed the old 13. It's like night and day in ride quality.
hughmcmillan posted 05-23-2002 08:01 PM ET (US)     Profile for hughmcmillan  Send Email to hughmcmillan     

Well I now own a 2002 170 Montauk but last year I bought a new 2001 13 Sport with a 40 HP 4 stroke with thwart cushions and backrest on the pilot thwart.

I loved the hull and the boat was a great deal of fun. I kept it docked on a freshwater lake. The self bailing scupper, located next to the heavy battery, was just below the water-level and it would get pretty scummy with algae. It was difficult to clean as it required the unscrewing of the thwart to get the battery out of the way. Not the best design there. I also didn't like the lack of clearance between the gas tank handles and the underside of the thwart. I even took a Stanley Surform (think cheese grater) to cut some height from the handles (I had two tanks). Changing tanks was not fun.

The boat was wonderful with those exceptions.
I must say, as the very happy owner of the new Montauk, that it has the same great hull design and it is unbelievably stable.

I LOVE the addition of the swim platform although the water has been too cold to permit me to try it out. The kids got the knack of using the cavitation plate to hoist themselves aboard but I wasn't very good at it and usually touched something greasy in the process. Try as I might I never found a ladder solution which worked on the boat.

I really enjoy not having to step over thwarts moving about the boat as it is a center console.

My recommendation is to wait for the 15 but get "on the list" now at your local dealer so you get one of the first delivered. I don't see how the 15 can be $16,000 when the 170 Montauk is $17,000 and change.

Don't get me wrong, I loved our 13 Sport and in some ways wish I could have kept it. The Montauk, with its bow rail will not be as much fun to dive into the water from as the Sport was.


crashq posted 05-23-2002 08:11 PM ET (US)     Profile for crashq  Send Email to crashq     
I think the reason it is mounted on the console is because of the boating regs. It may double as an anchor light and a running light (assuming it is a 360 degree white light) or it may simply reflect new lighting that actually meets Coat Guard regs ( which the old configuration didn't.

When I was researching the regs for my OR, I found that in addition to the stern light another unobstructed white light was required at least one meter above the other lights. It was recommended that it be mounted on the console to prevent its obstruction. I am sure the factory stern lightdid not meet these height requirements. An anchor light had to be visible 360 degrees. Vessels under 12 meters are not required to have an anchor light unless they are anchored " a near a narrow channel, fairway or anchorage, or where other vessels normally navigate. " If your light is a 360 degree light, you could replace it with a 270 degree light that will not shine bacwwards into your eyes. If the problem is that it is relflecting off the console, rails, etc. I don't know that you a choice except to move it aft an increase its height.

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