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pgiron posted 03-02-2009 01:07 PM ET (US)   Profile for pgiron   Send Email to pgiron  
Hi all,

I am trying to come up with a reasonable price for purchasing the following...
2001 BW Conquest260
2x 225 Optimax ~300 hours Smart Craft Guages
Air Conditioning
Dockside pumpout
Fish finder
New curtains/boosters
Very nice condition but shows use.

Seems the boat market drops daily and while I'd like to purhase this spring, I certainly can wait until summer or next year.

Anyone have an opinion as to....

What would be considered a near low ball offer?

What would be a good deal(like boats are all over the place price wise, up to20K more or 10k less so I can't really narrow it down that way)?

What amount would be overpaying?

This is a boat in Fl. so how much drop would be expected 'after season'?


NorthShoreWhaler posted 03-02-2009 03:05 PM ET (US)     Profile for NorthShoreWhaler  Send Email to NorthShoreWhaler     
Low ball 40k (actually a fair price in this economy)
Pay no more than 50k max.

IMO of course.

Over and out..

Tohsgib posted 03-02-2009 03:12 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tohsgib  Send Email to Tohsgib     
I know of a 98 260 outrage with no trailer and twin engines in FL going for mid 20's. So I tend to agree with the above but have not searched the net per say.
Tohsgib posted 03-02-2009 03:14 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tohsgib  Send Email to Tohsgib     
Raydar to boot!

pgiron posted 03-04-2009 07:10 AM ET (US)     Profile for pgiron  Send Email to pgiron     
Just found out the boats going off market to be compounded ,waxed and detailed. 2nd owner. Described as 7 or 8 before detailing. Boat will come back on market at $5k less. Also, 1 salesperson said owner looking at bigger boat, other salesperson said divorce involved.
I'm thinking $38,500, think that's too low??
Thanks for all the feedback!
NorthShoreWhaler posted 03-04-2009 07:47 AM ET (US)     Profile for NorthShoreWhaler  Send Email to NorthShoreWhaler     
i wouldn't be ashamed to start there!

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Dan posted 03-04-2009 08:27 AM ET (US)     Profile for Dan  Send Email to Dan     
Tosh, that 26 Outrage for 23,5, if legit is the buy of the century. Sheesh!
Tohsgib posted 03-04-2009 11:18 AM ET (US)     Profile for Tohsgib  Send Email to Tohsgib     
It was $28,500 last week. it is at a dealer so it is legit.

pgiron...what are they asking for it?

pgiron posted 03-04-2009 11:54 AM ET (US)     Profile for pgiron  Send Email to pgiron     
Supposedly, coming back on market after compounding/wax/ detailing.Broker says originally 72000 then down to 54900 and next to 49900)
pgiron posted 03-06-2009 07:36 AM ET (US)     Profile for pgiron  Send Email to pgiron     
kwik_wurk posted 03-06-2009 08:29 AM ET (US)     Profile for kwik_wurk  Send Email to kwik_wurk     
If there is a broker involved and he/she has a good understanding of the client; this is what I advise.

Give the low number that you would like to offer to the broker only. (The price is only going to go up after that.)

Then specifically ask the broker if he is comfortable taking the price to his client.

The broker should be able to give you a feel for things. You will find out the target price and how negotiable the seller is.

Make the broker work for you. Given that he still has a job as a broker, he probably is decent and can sell boats.

If the offer passes muster with the broker, have it passed to the seller. If too low, have the broker suggest a price and baulk at it and drop it 3% and see what he does.

260 Conquest is a nice boat; 38K is on the low end but I don't know your market.

Good luck. I have got my eye on a couple boats myself.

pgiron posted 03-06-2009 12:41 PM ET (US)     Profile for pgiron  Send Email to pgiron     
Thanks for the response.
Interestingly enough, this morning I found an old ad online from 2005 listing this boat at $61900.
Would you conside this a negative? Makes me a little leary if the boat has been dropping in price for 3 1/2 years and hasn't sold.

Survey sounds like a necessity for me now, would you agree?

Tohsgib posted 03-06-2009 01:17 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tohsgib  Send Email to Tohsgib     
Walk away
pgiron posted 03-06-2009 05:49 PM ET (US)     Profile for pgiron  Send Email to pgiron     
"Walk away'
Can do that. How about the same model, 1 year older, but with radar, more electonics ?
Asking $54900.
Walk, also if it hasn't been run in over a year?

I'm getting the feeling alot of these people are the same ones trying to sell their house for 2005 prices.

whalersailer posted 03-06-2009 06:48 PM ET (US)     Profile for whalersailer  Send Email to whalersailer     
Are you sure the ad from 2005 isn't from when the first owner was selling it?
pgiron posted 03-06-2009 08:13 PM ET (US)     Profile for pgiron  Send Email to pgiron     
same pix, same word for word text, even same misprint on engine horsepower so I gotta believe its the same owner, not original

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