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'73 19 Outrage hull number 0001 for sale
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posted 06-16-2009 04:04 PM ET (US)
Not mine, but I saw this while surfing the net today, and thought someone here might be interested:
How original does it look? Seems like a quite reasonable price to me.
Sadly, looks like there would be a lot of holes to fill...
posted 06-16-2009 04:12 PM ET (US)
The seller is a poster here. I see his postings for this boat all over Craigslist but they are all being flagged for removal because of over posting the same ad. A lot of the ads have varing prices as well. I have seen it listed every where from the 4000's to the mid 7000's.
posted 06-16-2009 04:18 PM ET (US)
Are they older ads? I think this ad had a posting date of today, but I am not sure. Maybe he has been coming down on his asking price and neglecting to update or delete older more expensive posts.
In any rate, I think a cleaner 19 just went for bout $4k on e-bay. Maybe he'll get a bite if the price comes down a little more? His location certainly limits his market somewhat.
posted 06-16-2009 04:28 PM ET (US)
The ads have been showing up for the past 5 days or so on Craigslists from New York to Florida and over to Texas.
posted 06-16-2009 08:46 PM ET (US)
Whaler Guy reincarnate, I think. I'd beware for sure, hull #1 or not.
posted 06-16-2009 10:10 PM ET (US)
Well, there must be someone from this group in the area, let's send him over to verify!
posted 06-16-2009 10:56 PM ET (US)
I'm in the area, but I met him once--that was once too much.
posted 06-19-2009 11:00 PM ET (US)
No connection to this seller, but I have spoken with him several times about this boat. I am pretty convinced that he has Hull #0001. He is in the process of gathering additional confirmatory information following up on data provided by Chuck Bennett. This may include photos of the boat with the original owner.
I would personally love to own #0001, but it will need some glasswork and this project deserves to be done absolutely right, with new gelcoat, etc. Sadly, I must admit this is more than I am capable of at this time. Hull #0021 is already mine, and it looks like she will be for some time to come.
For those who have not seen photos of the boat, it looks very much like a 1973 Outrage 19 (Whaler 19) but the oval cutouts under the gunwales are squared off and trimmed in teak. It seems to have all of the original wood, and from what I can tell, the wood will be fine if refinished. Very little, if any, replacement pieces would be needed.
The hull looks to be fairly solid, though the seller has acknowledged that it has a soft spot in the deck and likely some degree of water intrusion, which is typical for a boat of this vintage. The gunwales have lots of holes where a previous owner must have mounted a bunch of downriggers, etc. There is another notable fiberglass defect in the cap just above the forward locker.
I just hope that this boat, assuming it is indeed #0001, goes to someone who will do a restoration befitting of the uniqueness of this boat. For what it is worth, my experience with the seller thus far has been very positive, it's just a matter of this boat being frankly too special for me to take on at this time.
posted 06-20-2009 12:18 AM ET (US)
When I posted the thread initially, he was asking either $4200 but now he has changed the ad to “call for price”.
Sadly, it seems he may be playing games as an earlier poster noted.
One also has to wonder (if in fact the seller is a member here) why he chose not to post it at this site in the first place.
I realize that people differ and may not come to the same conclusion about things, but given the provenance of the boat it would seem to me that a greater likelihood of selling a boat of particular interest would be through a venue frequented by enthusiasts of the boat. Continuous Wave would be one of the more logical sites to attempt to sell it. As of this afternoon it was not yet posted at WhalerMall.com either.
I wish I could swing by and check it out but at 2k miles one way... Certainly is interesting so far, I wonder if the plot of this story will take a twist in the near future.
posted 06-20-2009 07:22 AM ET (US)
"Nobody ever got rich flipping over old boats". I cannot tell you how many times that quote has ran through my head in the past 10 years. It is a unique opportunity, but the seller is trying to run a Whaler specific restoration business and broker a few boats at the same time. I wish him success in his endeavours, I hope he understands the downside risk of this venture.
posted 06-20-2009 11:59 PM ET (US)
Thanks to Excellent Tony;
This Handyman Special/Vintage Hull has been brought up to my attention.
It is true that once you have refitted the one;
You know what you are in for the next one.
I would agree that if it was delivered to my general area;
Forty Five hundred would be a price that I could live with.
I am taken into account that fresh power would have to be obtained and all of the careful steps to make her shine again..
From my personal estimate, the hull and cosmetics would cost about as much as the initial investment would be.
I would still adopt her for this price.
posted 12-06-2009 08:13 PM ET (US)
Just came across this post and found it interesting that this was concerning the boat that I purchased. I'm the one that bought this boat at the end of August. Funny thing was that it was my parent's old boat they sold in the mid-80's I believe. I came across it on the internet. The more I looked at it and read the story, the more I thought it was our old boat. We are in the process of restoring it now. I have some new and old pictures from when my parents had it posted on whaler central on my personal page. Now we have a a fleet of 4 boston whalers in the family. This 19' 1973 outrage, a 25' WT revenge, and 2 17' nauset models.
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