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posted 01-24-2001 04:35 PM ET (US)
I am replacing the 72-QT IGLOO front cooler on my Montauk. Does the 94-QT fit? Has anybody ever used this size?
posted 01-24-2001 05:23 PM ET (US)
I have a 94-QT and it fits fine. I thought that was the "normal" size.
posted 01-24-2001 05:43 PM ET (US)
I have an Igloo 94 and as I remember, it DOESN'T fit my '97 Montauk. A 92 qt Gott does fit.
I'll check -- but may not be till Thursday night -- hot date with the Admiral tonight.
posted 01-24-2001 06:56 PM ET (US)
I have an Igloo Sport 90 in the front. It is slightly longer than my console width. I believe a 72-QT is standard.
posted 01-24-2001 07:11 PM ET (US)
The Igloo 94-QT worked well on my old 1985 Montauk, but I had some new mahogany hold-downs cut to fit it. The new cooler is about 2-inches taller than the old 72-QT that was standard for years, so with a seat cushion things start to get cramped up around the seat back cushions. We settled on moving the new cooler out a couple inches and all worked fine.
posted 01-25-2001 04:55 PM ET (US)
I have a 120-QT Igloo cooler in front of my console with plenty of room to walk around. Got it from Sam's for $39.95. Dennis
posted 01-25-2001 07:06 PM ET (US)
The Igloo 94-QT Marine cooler won't sit flat
on the deck of my '97 Montauk. The front
corners of the cooler are up on the part of
the deck that curves up. In my case the
problem is made worse by a scuba tank rack
that pushes the cooler forward about an inch
and by DriDeck tiles the move the upcurve in
a touch, but it still wouldn't sit flat on
the deck even without these problems.
A Gott 80 (not 92) sits nice and flat because
The Boston Whaler standard 72-QT fits, but is just too
posted 02-20-2001 11:20 AM ET (US)
I need some help. Just got all my new cushions from Dave's (94-QT top, helm seat and rod holder covers) Beautiful stuff!
I am replacing the 72-QT cooler with a 94-QT Igloo. It is about 2-inches taller than the 72-QT. Things are starting get cramped up around the seat back cushions (not installed yet). It is difficult to lift the cooler top in this configuration. I guess I could move the cooler forward but, this may make the seat uncomfortable. Does anybody have this set up on their Montauk?
|Tom W Clark||
posted 02-20-2001 12:04 PM ET (US)
The one size Igloo cooler that works well in the Montauk is the 86-QT. Yes, I said 86- QT. But here's the rub: you may be familiar with it in its new incarnation, the 94-QT. Back around 1990 Igloo re-designed its coolers with new domed lids which increased their capacity somewhat. But the increased height made it difficult to open the cooler in a Montauk (or Outrage). If rod holders are mounted, or worse yet, cushioned rod holders, it simply is not possible to open the lid more than about 30-degrees without moving the cooler out from the cooler. Now if you have the newer domed lid & rod holders & cushions you're screwed. Even the new 72-QT cooler still has a thick lid and it is this thickness (relative to the pivot point of the hinge) that's the issue.
This cooler issue was one of the first real dissapointments I had with Boston Whaler. When I acquired My Outrage in 1990 I saved the older 86-QT Igloo from my Montauk and put it in the Outrage. One possibility would be to find an old cooler at a yard sale or whatever and canablize the lid off of it. (The new cushion on the lid will hide the fact that it may be old and yellowed.) This, in combination with new or re-positioned chocks (moving the cooler both up & out) may prove satisfactory.
posted 02-20-2001 12:38 PM ET (US)
I just turned the cooler around. I have the new 94-QT on my Montauk also. Didn't have to move the chocks or anything.
posted 02-27-2001 04:56 PM ET (US)
I have the Igloo 94-QT in my 1989 Montauk. It is a tight fit but I only use it for storage of life vests. My rod holder cushion and cooler cushion from Dave's fit fine. My son's 1987 Montauk has the 72-QT and his is a tight fit also. I like mine for the little extra seating and storage space. I use the 124-QT $39.95 from Sam's for beverage storage and a stern seat. I keep it from sliding by using that rubber waffle material available on rolls from Walmart. The rear cooler is also great for downrigger useage as you can turn 180-degree and have good leg room front and back.
posted 02-27-2001 06:07 PM ET (US)
Does any cooler fits into the hold down brackets with the bungee cords of a 1993 Montauk?
A 94-QT igloo will not fit into my hold down kit on my 1993 Montauk. Do you have to remove the chocks for the cooler to fit? Any cooler wider than 13-7/8" wide will not fit. I thought Igloo and Boston Whaler were both owned by Brunswick.
posted 02-27-2001 08:44 PM ET (US)
The 1993 brochure doesn't say what size the cooler is but I believe your 1993 Montauk was set up for the 72-quart cooler, as my 1999 boat is.
The 1994 brochure does say "72 quart."
posted 02-27-2001 08:48 PM ET (US)
I agree it was meant for a 72-quart, but the modern Igloo coolers do not fit into the hold down brackets. You must have the original cooler.
posted 02-27-2001 08:59 PM ET (US)
My boat was ordered with the cooler seat so it is a factory cooler. Don't know why an Igloo 72-quart would be different from a Boston Whaler Igloo 72, But who knows what factories have modified for them for the extra $$$.
posted 03-01-2001 08:08 PM ET (US)
Regarding access to your cooler in front of the console, both Montauks and Outrages, I think Arch has it right—the hinge side should face forward. This allows the cooler to be all the way back against the console, and still easy to fully open. I have done for years, and it works fine.
posted 04-05-2001 09:02 PM ET (US)
The best prices I have seen on the Igloo Marine 72 is $50 , and for a 94, $80. Both at Shoreway Marine, West Berlin NJ 800-443-5408. I think a Whaler tan pleat seat cushion from Dave's is about $150.
You'll have to decide whether to enlarge the cooler cleats a little to hold the 94-QT cooler. I think I would go for it. May have to do this for the 72-QT also, since it is wider at the base than what you have now. If your old, original 86-QT is still useable, just order a new cushion for it.
posted 05-08-2004 08:56 AM ET (US)
[This thread was revived. Any article appended after this one will be year 2004, although a glitch will show the year incorrectly in the posting times. Changed TOPIC; was "New Front Cooler for Montauk."]
This cooler situation sounds like it needs an FAQ. If anyone can distill this information into a concise analysis of the cooler situation, I would be be glad to publish their article in the Reference section and link it to the FAQ. In the interim, the information in this thread should be helpful.
posted 05-09-2004 11:05 PM ET (US)
I bought my 82 Montauk in 1992...it had a factory bench seat which I removed and replaced with a 94 quart Igloo cooler/seat. I went to a Whaler Dealer and measured the cooler chocks in a Montauk there (Unk what year it was) I bought the teak and manufacured chocks for my cooler. I designed them so that the part of the chock that was mounted to the deck was thicker than what I measured on the Montauk at the dealer. This made the cooler sit higher and subsequently the front corners of the cooler were well above the deck and don't come in contact with the deck where it angles up toward the gunnels just behind the front deck/bow locker area. It would take a few days but I have my design drawings on graph paper... I would have to scan them and then I can make them available. I do not have the rod holder seat backs on the front of my console so I wouldn't know about that issue personally, but the setup has worked perfectly for me as far as the cooler seat being secure and functional...
posted 05-09-2004 11:09 PM ET (US)
I am not sure (haven't checked my Whaler Catalog CD collection yet) but it seams there are a couple of different cooler chock designs for different years....Like I said in my earlier post...I don't recall the year Montauk I took my measurements from.....
posted 05-09-2004 11:14 PM ET (US)
Tom Clark recently sent me a couple of drawings he made for the Cooler Cleats for the Montauks.
There is a drawing of the original 86qt cooler cleat and an additional drawing that will work for the 94qt cooler. The only difference is an added 1 inch in length for the 94qt as compared to the 86qt cleats.
posted 05-09-2004 11:57 PM ET (US)
If one goes to a larger cooler, say the 128qt. Do you remove the rod holders and cushions or do you move the cooler farther away from the console? On the outrage the 128qt w/ cushion is taller than space between the bottom of the console cushions and the deck?
posted 05-10-2004 01:02 AM ET (US)
Sometime last year Tom Clark asked me to measure the 86qt cooler and compare it to the new 94qt cooler.. I have since lost that email and have sold my Montauk but remember the coolers were not that much different in size.
The bottom of the cooler where it either fit into the cleats on the Outrage or sat on the cleats for the Montauk were about 1/8" longer in one direction and about the same in the other.. (don't remember which direction was which).
I also removed the lid from the 86qt and it fit perfectly on the 94qt and the 94 fit on the 86... So, same size at the top...
The big difference in the two lids is obvious. The 94qt is approximately 2" taller. This presents a bigger problem on the Montauk as the cooler is already setting on a 1" tall cleat whereas the cooler sets on the floor of the Outrages. For those who have the console rod holders and rod holder cushions, the 94qt with the taller lid conflict with each other to different degrees.
My Outrage 18 has the 94qt with cooler cushion in front of the console which has the rod holders and cushions. The cooler will just barely slide under the rod holder cushions without touching. Lifting the lid of the cooler is difficult.
On the Montauk, It is a tight squeeze to get the cooler under the rod holder cushions because it is already 1" higher than the Outrage as it is setting on cleats.
Many people here have stated they turn the cooler around and open it from back to front.. I have seen this and it does work but there is also a slight risk of ripping the rod holder cushions with the 2 latches from the 94qt lid unless you are carefull..
Another remedy..... Raise the Console 2"...... This will compensate for the 2" taller lid of the 94qt cooler and put everything back into proportion to the original 86qt Igloo cooler.
LHG has already raised his console for other reasons, but his idea will work for this too...
I plan on raising my console about 2" sometime in the future. Not just for the cooler, but it will definitely remedy the cooler height dilema.
posted 06-18-2014 10:16 PM ET (US)
I have an 86 Montauk with the original cooler with seat cushions on it. It was in decent condition, although the handles were a bit beat up. Last summer I allowed my brother-in-law to use the boat after I head back "home" (to China). I just got back home and saw that not only the was the cooler missing the drainage plug, but he also "forgot" to clean out the cooler. It is now all moldy and I am ready to replace it. I've read numerous threads on here and I just want to get confirmation prior to purchasing a new cooler.
Is this the correct Igloo 94qt cooler to purchase, which I can then turn around with the hinges facing towards the bow?
Will I need to get new seat cushions as well? If so, could someone please provide a link to the correct product for the correct cooler?
I would also like to get rod holders with the cushions so I can replace the whole section. Does anyone have a link to the correct rod holders and cushions?
Thanks for your insight and support!
posted 06-19-2014 12:30 PM ET (US)
That is the cooler, but as others have mentioned, the lid is ~2" taller, and makes for a tight fit against to rod holder cushions. And an even tighter fit with the cooler cushion on.
If you give me 24hrs, I can take a picture of the new and old Igloo coolers showing the height issue.
(Clean that mold with soapy water with a cap full of bleach.)
posted 06-19-2014 02:31 PM ET (US)
Do you suggest a different size cooler? If so, please let me know which one it is.
I'm working on cleaning my current one, but with the handles in the shape that they are in, I'm fine with replacing it. Just want to make sure I purchase the correct one.
I'll mount the new cooler with the hinge side towards the bow. I'll also get some new chocks for it as one of the current chocks is really beat up. That just leaves ordering a new cushion for the new cooler, and then deciding if I can fit the rod holders and cushion into the mix as well.
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