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trailer for a clasic 22 Outrage
|Author||Topic: trailer for a clasic 22 Outrage|
posted 09-01-2003 07:26 PM ET (US)
I've been an exhaustive search of the forum on trailer advice and as always am learning how great the cumulative experience of Whaler owners can be. Also, many thanks to those who have communicated with me via email.
Tomorrow I'm looking at a 22 and if the seatrial goes well will purchase the boat. There is no trailer for it as it is rack stored. I can leave it stored at a marina for two or three weeks but need a trailer by then. I've heard good things about Continental and Loadmaster, but I'm in Long Island NY and not FL and have no way of getting a trailer from FL in that time period.
While I'm not looking to start a banter of which brand is best, I would appreciate if anyone had a particular brand and model that would be readily available. I'm willing to pay (within reason) for a good trailer but the key is getting a known entity to order as I'm synical about a non-Whaler trailer distributer picking my trailer for me.
The boat is about 78 or so inches wide and Loadrite, for example, has 77 and 82.5" widths. I would like the boat to sit as low as possible so I'm not sure if 77 is too narrow. Second, I am willing to customize it a bit by adding or specifying additional cross members and adding keel rollers myself. But I would like to be able to order stock parts for the majority of the custom work.
I know Kingfish posted a custom roller mount bracket and I can probably get those fabbed out, but beyond that I would like something fairly straight forward and that will give me a nice trailer that I could feel confident towing a few hundred miles with. I prefer aluminum but might have to go with a big name brand for availability like EZ or Loadrite, etc. When you look at the websites there seem to be alot of choices so anyone that has used or has good experience with a particular model for their 22 would be appreciated.
As always, thanks for the generous support. I appreciate you taking the time to respond.
posted 09-01-2003 08:17 PM ET (US)
A dual axle trailer with brakes on at least one axle will make stopping much easier on you and your tow vehicle.
posted 09-02-2003 07:24 AM ET (US)
I agree- I would like tandem axle, SS disc brakes on both axles, some sort of grease thru fittings or acculube, torsion axles, and stainless bolt and fittings, plus stainless inserts on 12" Stoltz rollers.
My problem is which (in terms of brand and model) frame do I start with to put this options on and then setup for the boat (I prefer aluminum but will settle for galvanized if its more of a straight forward order and setup).
I just don't trust some trailer place to lookup weight on a code sheet and say "get this one". I know this is asking a lot but the detail of info on this site never ceases to amaze me- so here goes: what width between fenders do I need (the boat is 78.5"- will 77" between fenders to it without having to mount boat higher than necessary) and what length trailer so as to have enough tongue length for good towing.
The order sheets at EZ and Loadrite, etc usually list a dozen trailers with varying load, width, length, tire size. If anyone knows a specific model like a EZT3200C, (I just made that up) but you get the point, that would be great. Sorry to ask for such esoteric info.
posted 09-02-2003 05:56 PM ET (US)
I'm in the same predicament. I just purchased a 1982 22' Outrage and have looked everywhere for a trailer. As luck would have it, a friend had a Shorelander trailer for his 21' Grady White that he's selling me for a song. Only problem is the trailer is a roller-style and a Whaler definitely requires a bunk style [even though several dealers told me they put them on rollers "all the time"]. After much time on the phone with various trailer dealers, Boston Whaler plant in Florida and the Shorelander manufacturer, they said that I can easily convert the roller style to a bunk style for probably $300-$400 since its the same basic frame.
The important things that I've learned during this research is that I need a trailer with approx. 4,500 lbs. capacity, tandem wheels and brakes on at least one axle.
By the way, I'm also in the NY area and plan to put the boat in the LI Sound.
posted 09-02-2003 06:53 PM ET (US)
Well I think I've finally got it figured out- kind of. Thanks to all for everyone's help via email. I've decided on an aluminum 5 Star (Loadrite) tandem axle bunk trailer. I'll get the exact model later but its 82.5" between the fenders and 101.5" WOA. It has dual torsion axle with disc brakes on each axle. I believe it's with 14" tires, but I'll get all the specs tomorrow when I order it.
I decided on alumium because it was only $500 more and Loadrite because it was a dealer one mile away and EZ Loader was 1500 bucks more. I steered away from trailers any cheaper than the Loadrite and couldn't go to FL for some of those nice Continentals or Loadmasters as I need it within the next two weeks.
All in all, I think it will be a nice trailer. The cross members are galvanized though. Weight savings for the alumium versus steel is about 300#. Not much but I liked how this one came out of the box with four cross members (I also saw a roller model in stock and could "see and touch" what I was shopping for), but perhaps only 3 of the cross members are truly useable for keel rollers. I've asked them to check tomorrow if they can order it with an additional cross member, if not I'll likely add it later as it seems to be just a matter of drilling a hole and bolting on another one or two. They are shallow V design.
My plan is to get it delivered, get my boat on it with the stock bunks properly adjusted and then work on the custom fab work of keel brakets for the 12" Stoltz rollers. Eventually moving the bunks for support only after the keel rollers are set. The trailer guy thought of making sets of dual 12" roller on a rocker attached to the keel, with 3" by 12" galvanized metal on each side of the two rollers (one on each end) and then mount them horizontal obviously, but having the brackets themselves on a pivot on the cross member. Thus, they will be under the keel supporting the weight but be more pliable to the boat as it comes off and on. Maybe unnecessary, anyone with thoughts?
Thanks again, Hudsojo, email me sometime when you are out this way or if I can help you with trailer questions. I'll keep you posted as to how it goes as I order it and then set it up.
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