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Hoop posted 01-07-2004 02:36 PM ET (US)   Profile for Hoop   Send Email to Hoop  
Time to start thinking about what will be the fourth annual Northern California Whaler Rendezvous. Folks had a great time at Snug Harbor last year, so I'm going to check with Snug Harbor on availability ... same weekend, which would be May 14, 15, and 16, 2004, Friday to Sunday.

Who's in?


andygere posted 01-07-2004 08:04 PM ET (US)     Profile for andygere  Send Email to andygere     
Our second baby will be due in early April, but we're old pro's now so I'd say at this point count me in for at least a day of it. I'll consult with the rest of my crew and get back to you. For those NorCal folks who missed it last year, Snug Harbor is a first class outfit and the Rendezvous was a lot of fun.
whalersman posted 01-07-2004 09:22 PM ET (US)     Profile for whalersman  Send Email to whalersman     
I have a few Questions?

Where is NorCal?
Where is Snug Harbor?
What Country are we talking about?

Here is a map made by the State of California.


whalersman posted 01-07-2004 09:23 PM ET (US)     Profile for whalersman  Send Email to whalersman     
That should be;
What "County" not Country, are we talking about...


Drisney posted 01-07-2004 10:47 PM ET (US)     Profile for Drisney  Send Email to Drisney     
Joe....... Where is "upstate Calif." ??? LOL...Snug harbor is on the Delta rather near Stockton and on the edge of "Frank's Tract. Dave
whalersman posted 01-08-2004 12:54 PM ET (US)     Profile for whalersman  Send Email to whalersman     

I am located at the very top, and about in the middle of, Siskiyou County..
You can't get any further "Upstate" then that unless we are talking inches..

How's the fishing at Frank's Tract that time of year?
What type of fish do you catch?

I have never been on the Delta so I have no idea...


andygere posted 01-08-2004 02:24 PM ET (US)     Profile for andygere  Send Email to andygere     
The NorCal-SoCal border is a fuzzy thing, which moves around in response to media trends, water supplies, environmental debates and state politics. Looking at your map, I'd say that the Delta just makes it into today's NorCal boundry, so Snug Harbor is a NorCal-legal rendezvous location under international rules.

All kidding aside, the Delta is like no place else I've ever been, with thousands of miles of channels, sloughs, bays and marshes. I've caught striped bass and largemouth there at that time of year, although we had unusually high wind to somewhat spoil the fishing at last year's event. It's a great place for cruising, with lot's of interesting ports'O call to visit and explore. Below are a few links to help you learn a bit more about this interesting and unique waterway.

For those who haven't been to a NorCal Rendezvous, Jim Hooper does a great job of organizing the event, making arrangements for lodging and berthing, and selecting interesting and fun destinations for our cruises. There's always a great group of people in attendance, and I encourage anyone within a day's drive (yup, even SoCal folks) to join in the fun.

whalersman posted 01-08-2004 07:24 PM ET (US)     Profile for whalersman  Send Email to whalersman     
Thanks Andy....

Hoop, I think you can count me in although I am not sure about my wife yet.

I would like to know more particulars..
What day do people arrive, the 14th?
I would probably come down a day early as it looks to be about a 5 or 6 hour drive for me..

Where do we eat? Restaurants, Cookouts, etc.?
Do we come back and stay at the same place each nite?

Anything else you can tell me would be appreciated..


Hoop posted 01-08-2004 07:47 PM ET (US)     Profile for Hoop  Send Email to Hoop     

Details need to be worked out. I've sent an email to Snug Harbor but haven't heard back yet.

Here's what we did last year, and we had a great time:
- Arrive Friday, on-your-own barbecue
- Saturday lunch - cruised from Snug Harbor to Walnut Grove on the Sacramento River. Tied up and walked to a restaurant for lunch. Returned via a different route.
- Saturday dinner - bring your own meat pot-luck barbecue
- Sunday breakfast - on own, a little fishing, et al ...

We had about about 7 boats, including folks from Chico, Sacramento, Reno, San Jose, Morgan Hill, and Santa Cruz.

Andy, it wouldn't be a rendezvous if we couldn't see you, Nancy, and your little ones for at least a day!

This will be our fourth year. First year was at a different place in the Delta - B&W Resort; no air conditioning. Second place was in San Leandro on the Bay; tough weather. Third year was at Snug Harbor, and folks attending said it would be worth returning!

- Hoop

whalersman posted 01-09-2004 02:49 PM ET (US)     Profile for whalersman  Send Email to whalersman     

I talked to the wife and she is excited about going.. She put her request in to have May 14th off so we are set...

I am not sure how the cabins are layed out but we would like our own "Snuggle Inn Cabin"..

I looked at the link and saw the prices etc...

I guess the next step is too see what is available during that time frame.

Count us in.........


whalersman posted 01-09-2004 05:37 PM ET (US)     Profile for whalersman  Send Email to whalersman     

I just talked to Vikki on the phone at Snug Harbor..
She says she still has quite a few Cabins left in all sizes.
I am not sure where you stay as far as cabins or camp sites so I am curious as what to do...

My wife and I would like to stay in a Studio Cabin. We prefer not to camp these days.. If you want us to, we could book our own cabin..

Just let me know how you like to work things and what is going on..

With a foot of snow left on the ground, I am looking forward to some warmer weather and a boating get together with you "Flatlanders"... :-)
He says jokingly..


Hoop posted 01-10-2004 06:55 AM ET (US)     Profile for Hoop  Send Email to Hoop     

Yup, it turns out that most of us are right with you when it comes to a preference for comfort! Most didn't camp.

And yes, I'll probably have folks make reservations directly with Snug Harbor.

Still, I will be wanting to have a discussion with Carol, the manager, first.

More to come.

... Hoop

Drisney posted 01-13-2004 11:15 PM ET (US)     Profile for Drisney  Send Email to Drisney     
Hoop et all,
I am hoping to come. So far so good. I will drive from work when I get off duty Sat 8AM and will stay Sat on board my V-22 Revenge. Then head home Sun night. I am trying to talk Dan my neighbor into going as well. He is ex- Cruz Control on the photo pages. He sold the 18/19 and bought a 25' CC with Whaler drive it is a monster!!!
Hoop posted 01-14-2004 12:19 AM ET (US)     Profile for Hoop  Send Email to Hoop     

Sounds great. So Dan sold Cruz Control! I'm sad; I dreamed about that boat.


I talked to the manager Vikki, as did Whalersman. (They are pretty nice folks up there!)

Reservations will be on our own. You can make reservations over the web at their web site (see above posting); if you do, Vikki's recommendation is to write in the COMMENTS field exactly which unit you want, if you have a preference, and also indicate Boston Whaler Rendezvous in the Comments field.

Or you could call and do the reservation by telephone.

I'm talking with Chuck about possibly sharing one of the larger units. I figure we'll decide over the next week or so.

I'll tell you, I'm dreaming about spring in the Delta already!


Marc posted 01-14-2004 06:27 PM ET (US)     Profile for Marc  Send Email to Marc     
I'm checking with the family right now. I would love to go and put some faces to names. I've been by Snug Harbor in the Whaler many times but have never stopped there. It sounds and looks like a great spot. I'll save all my questions until I get confirmation from the boss.


whalersman posted 01-14-2004 08:36 PM ET (US)     Profile for whalersman  Send Email to whalersman     

I will call Nicky tomorrow and make the reservation for my wife and I...

I thought her name sounded like Vikki over the phone too, but when I got an email from her, it was Nicky Suard...

I can feel the snow melting as I write this...


RJM posted 01-14-2004 09:03 PM ET (US)     Profile for RJM  Send Email to RJM     
Count us in! Marilyn and I are looking forward to seeing the north delta. I actually purchased a Montauk for the Department of Fish and Game in 1980 with a 115 hp for the wardens to patrol the south delta with. The middle of May will be perfect weather(maybe windy, but not too hot) and we are really looking forward to meeting all of you.
whalersman posted 01-16-2004 12:45 AM ET (US)     Profile for whalersman  Send Email to whalersman     

I stand corrected on the name of the woman on the telephone.

Vikki handles the telephone calls...

Nicky hadles the emails...

Who's Who, is Tricky........ :-)

I am waiting a return phone call for my reservation...

Marc posted 01-16-2004 01:59 PM ET (US)     Profile for Marc  Send Email to Marc     
We're in! Just got a call from Vicki and she had me go online and make our reservations. She was very nice and the online form was simple and quick to fill out.

Jim (Hoop) does someone have a suggested list of things to bring?


whalersman posted 01-16-2004 02:12 PM ET (US)     Profile for whalersman  Send Email to whalersman     
I just talked to Vicki a little while ago and did the same thing as Marc.

We are in Cabin #17......

Now, can anyone tell me how they fish for Stripers in the Delta?
What do I need?

This is going to be our first trip to the Delta so I have no idea about fishing this area. I realize I probably won't be fishing that much as this will be more of a get together, an adventure, and a learning excursion.


Marc posted 01-16-2004 04:18 PM ET (US)     Profile for Marc  Send Email to Marc     

We are in cabin #16, so I guess we are neighbors.:-)

Regarding fishing for stripers in the Delta. That could take hours to explain that one! I mostly fish the Delta in the fall/winter for stripers. How you fish for them really depends on the conditions (weather, water color, temp., tide, etc.). I've fished for them trolling, bait, both live and dead and jigging. There are a couple of other ways, at least, to fish for them but those are the ways I've used.

I've fished for them in April but never let as May. I change my focus to SF Bay and Halibut come late April.

In May, if the stripers are there, I would bring a trolling setup.

I too think it will be more of an excursion and social event than fishing but very fun! I'm looking forward to it and so is the family!


nevada posted 01-16-2004 05:40 PM ET (US)     Profile for nevada  Send Email to nevada     

Did I buy my Montauk from you?


Marc posted 01-16-2004 05:54 PM ET (US)     Profile for Marc  Send Email to Marc     

Yes. Are you thinking of coming to the rendezvous? I've never been but it sounds like a blast! So far the people at Snug Harbor have been super nice...


nevada posted 01-16-2004 06:20 PM ET (US)     Profile for nevada  Send Email to nevada     

I would love to join you all, but I'm not sure what the schedule for May has in store for us. You might not recognize the montauk though. She is missing the trolling motor and has a big black Suzuki df70 on the stern. The old Mercery 80 is in Tallahassee. Thanks again for letting me take her off your hands.


P.S. I didn't have to cut a hole in my garage to keep he inside:)

whalersman posted 01-16-2004 10:38 PM ET (US)     Profile for whalersman  Send Email to whalersman     

It looks like Marc and I are going... We have are reservations...

Anyone Else?

Hoop? Are you going? :-)
Just kidding Hoop...
We couldn't do this without you....

Looking forward to meeting everyone there...


Hoop posted 01-17-2004 12:24 AM ET (US)     Profile for Hoop  Send Email to Hoop     
Yes, I'm going! But I don't have my reservations yet. Am coordinating with Paul, who is checking with his family, then I'm coordinating with Chuck, who is thinking about bringing dogs, and one of these days we'll figure it out!

Stripers ... lots of choices, and I'm no expert, but have caught them on the troll, which I kinda like doing. A broken back Rappala and a jig separated by a spreader is what I've used. Pretty common rig - fishing books are quick to describe the rig as a standard approach.


prm1177 posted 01-17-2004 01:09 PM ET (US)     Profile for prm1177  Send Email to prm1177     
I'll know by Sunday night. In my extended family, we've got a little lady on the way (due in early Feb), so as you can imagine decisions are tough to come by now. I'll let Jim know on Monday, but I'll be there for sure.
whalersman posted 01-26-2004 09:09 PM ET (US)     Profile for whalersman  Send Email to whalersman     
Can't let this get out of site, out of mind...

Marc and I have our Reservations..
Drisney is coming and staying on his Whaler.
RJM is coming...
Hoop has to come... He's the head guide..
andygere is coming for a day...

Anyone else going?

Joe Kriz

Marc posted 01-27-2004 03:04 PM ET (US)     Profile for Marc  Send Email to Marc     
My in-laws are supposed to come. They don't have a Whaler but want a ride in one! :-)


ratherwhalering posted 01-27-2004 07:34 PM ET (US)     Profile for ratherwhalering  Send Email to ratherwhalering     
I'd love to come, believe me, but I have a sailing regatta on the 15th and 16th that I cannot miss. Matt (mfrymier) and I sail on the same J-105 so neither of us can make it... its always something with this event. I made the Angle Island trip two years ago, and that was a blast...last year my engine took a dumper and left me stranded. Hmmm, maybe I'll see if I can talk Matt into a Friday afternoon cruise in his OR18...
triblet posted 01-27-2004 10:33 PM ET (US)     Profile for triblet  Send Email to triblet     
Adm. Linda and I will be there, sans Newfoundland Dogs
(Couldn't figure out what to do with them at lunch on Sat.).


dan firth posted 01-28-2004 09:02 AM ET (US)     Profile for dan firth  Send Email to dan firth     
Hi Everyone,
I'd like to come up at least for the day on Saturday the 15th. I'm a pretty early riser so I could be there by breakfast, meet the crowd, drool over everyone's boat, cruise around and maybe even do a little fly fishing if the stripers are around. I'm not sure about my wife and daughter yet. Count me in for the day.
Drisney posted 01-29-2004 01:25 AM ET (US)     Profile for Drisney  Send Email to Drisney     
"Pretty Early Riser" !?!?!? Boy there is an understatement!!!
ratherwhalering posted 01-30-2004 12:52 PM ET (US)     Profile for ratherwhalering  Send Email to ratherwhalering     
Talked to Matt, and he I will be running up from the Bay on Friday afternoon (weather permitting) to rub elbows with the early arrivers. We'll stick around for a BBQ, and then head out before it gets dark. See ya there!
Hoop posted 02-09-2004 12:28 AM ET (US)     Profile for Hoop  Send Email to Hoop     
Hi all ...

Just to let you know, I've booked Unit #1, the four bedroom house, at Snug Harbor. It seemed to make a nice 'headquarters' for our barbecues last year! It can hold quite a few overnight, too.

I probably won't do more detailed planning for a month or so ... Hey, I got feedback today by email that we may have a classic Newport join us; I haven't seen one of those for awhile!


elaelap posted 02-18-2004 01:26 PM ET (US)     Profile for elaelap  Send Email to elaelap     
Sounds like a plan. I'll try to get there for one day, but it depends on the salmon bite, since I often deckhand in a friend's party boat. Like others, I'd love to put some faces together with the written personalities.


Marc posted 02-18-2004 11:25 PM ET (US)     Profile for Marc  Send Email to Marc     

Forget George and chasing salmon. You need to come to the rendezvous and check out all the whalers. Of course that won't be a good financial decision for you 'cause you'll come away wanting a 18 or 20 footer. But that is ok.

Seriously, speaking from no experience, the trip to Snug Harbor sounds like a blast.

I'm even thinking of heading to Berkeley (SF BAY) and doing some Halibut fishing that Monday. I'll be trying to convince some other Nor Cal Whaler folks to join me. Maybe even those folks from "upstate" California. :-)


PS - Hoop, thanks for arranging this event!

andygere posted 02-19-2004 11:54 AM ET (US)     Profile for andygere  Send Email to andygere     
The newest member of my family will be about a month on Rendezvous weekend, so Nancy, Jillian and ?? will probably miss this one. I will be driving down with a friend Friday night or Saturday morning, sleeping on the boat. We will probably bug out pretty early on Sunday. I'll arrange for a slip with the folks at Snug Harbor. I look forward to seeing everyone there.
whalersman posted 02-22-2004 07:57 PM ET (US)     Profile for whalersman  Send Email to whalersman     

Just about any other year but this one and I would definitely keep on fishing that week and take you up on that Halibut fishing excursion..

Unfortunately, I have to be back as I am planting a new crop on the ranch this year, plus it will need to be watered and babied for the first couple of months.. Can't afford to lose a crop from lack of water...

You can see a small portion of my ranch on my Home Page link under my profile... These photos are taken every 5 minutes during the week... This also gives me a great security camera as all the images are stored on my Internet providers web space and also my own computers...

See you there,
Joe Kriz

Chuck Tribolet posted 02-27-2004 09:27 PM ET (US)     Profile for Chuck Tribolet  Send Email to Chuck Tribolet     
Here's tide charts. I included Rio Vista because the
Ryker's Island ferry is about half way between Snug Harbor
and Rio Vista and so should about split the difference
between the two on the tide charts. Last year, I went home
Sunday morning at about 10:00 a.m. and it was just doable
(I'll tip the motor next time). Snug Harbor was +1.29,
Rio Vista was +0.80. So it looks doable for a early arrival
on Friday and a late afternoon departure on Sunday.

The ferry saves about 45 minutes to an hour of driving.

Snug Harbor Rio Vista

2.27 12:00 AM 05-14 3.64
3.14 1:00 AM 4.32
3.62 2:00 AM 4.33
3.53 3:00 AM 3.77
2.99 4:00 AM 2.96
2.27 5:00 AM 2.15
1.58 6:00 AM 1.46
1.03 7:00 AM 0.97
0.68 8:00 AM 0.73
0.55 9:00 AM 0.79
0.68 10:00 AM 1.19
1.07 11:00 AM 1.87
1.65 12:00 PM 2.63
2.26 1:00 PM 3.18
2.64 2:00 PM 3.26
2.63 3:00 PM 2.88
2.24 4:00 PM 2.25
1.68 5:00 PM 1.58
1.12 6:00 PM 1.01
0.67 7:00 PM 0.59
0.38 8:00 PM 0.40
0.31 9:00 PM 0.55
0.51 10:00 PM 1.11
1.05 11:00 PM 2.09

1.89 12:00 AM 05-15 3.20
2.80 1:00 AM 4.16
3.54 2:00 AM 4.56
3.77 3:00 AM 4.27
3.44 4:00 AM 3.51
2.73 5:00 AM 2.60
1.94 6:00 AM 1.75
1.23 7:00 AM 1.07
0.70 8:00 AM 0.59
0.37 9:00 AM 0.34
0.25 10:00 AM 0.41
0.38 11:00 AM 0.84
0.80 12:00 PM 1.61
1.46 1:00 PM 2.46
2.13 2:00 PM 3.08
2.57 3:00 PM 3.22
2.60 4:00 PM 2.88
2.25 5:00 PM 2.28
1.71 6:00 PM 1.64
1.18 7:00 PM 1.11
0.77 8:00 PM 0.76
0.55 9:00 PM 0.70
0.58 10:00 PM 1.03
0.94 11:00 PM 1.79

1.62 12:00 AM 05-16 2.81
2.48 1:00 AM 3.85
3.31 2:00 AM 4.55
3.81 3:00 AM 4.60
3.75 4:00 AM 4.02
3.18 5:00 AM 3.10
2.36 6:00 AM 2.14
1.54 7:00 AM 1.31
0.86 8:00 AM 0.65
0.38 9:00 AM 0.21
0.10 10:00 AM 0.05
0.05 11:00 AM 0.22
0.26 12:00 PM 0.75
0.74 1:00 PM 1.55
1.42 2:00 PM 2.43
2.11 3:00 PM 3.06
2.56 4:00 PM 3.20
2.58 5:00 PM 2.86
2.23 6:00 PM 2.29
1.72 7:00 PM 1.69
1.24 8:00 PM 1.23
0.89 9:00 PM 1.00
0.78 10:00 PM 1.12
0.96 11:00 PM 1.64

Chuck Tribolet posted 02-27-2004 11:42 PM ET (US)     Profile for Chuck Tribolet  Send Email to Chuck Tribolet     
Sorry about the ugly format. It looked nice when I posted
it, then jimh's software stripped out all the blanks that
made it readable, Anyway, Snug Harbor on the left, Rio
Vista on the right.


jimh posted 02-29-2004 01:18 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
Repaired format for chart.
prm1177 posted 03-10-2004 01:18 PM ET (US)     Profile for prm1177  Send Email to prm1177     
One note here. I want someone to arrange for weather identical to what we've had this week. Minimal wind, calm bay, and temps in the lower 80's for the NorCal rendezvous. Anyone want to take this assignment?
prm1177 posted 03-10-2004 01:42 PM ET (US)     Profile for prm1177  Send Email to prm1177     
As a motivation, photos from last year's rendezvous are posted at:



prm1177 posted 03-10-2004 01:53 PM ET (US)     Profile for prm1177  Send Email to prm1177     
how about:

Hoop posted 03-13-2004 11:23 PM ET (US)     Profile for Hoop  Send Email to Hoop     
peteinsf posted 03-16-2004 08:41 PM ET (US)     Profile for peteinsf    
Hi Hoop, & crew,

How many of 2003's attendees sailed up from the bay vs launched in the delta? I was thinking I would sail up but it seem like a lot of gas (SF -> Antioch)...


Chuck Tribolet posted 03-16-2004 11:33 PM ET (US)     Profile for Chuck Tribolet  Send Email to Chuck Tribolet     
There was at least one, and maybe two, last year that motored
up. Most trailered.


Hoop posted 03-18-2004 11:08 PM ET (US)     Profile for Hoop  Send Email to Hoop     

Paul drove his Outrage 17 up. Check with him on how the going was and what his gas usage was. I think he emailed me on whether he was trailering up or driving up, but I can't remember now what he said. (Email is on a different computer ...)


peteinsf posted 03-19-2004 03:44 AM ET (US)     Profile for peteinsf    
I was thinking it would be fun as a fleet from the bay. If it's by myself I would trailer her up to Bethel Is and launch there.


Hoop posted 03-20-2004 05:24 PM ET (US)     Profile for Hoop  Send Email to Hoop     
Pete, if I had a bigger boat with room for all the stuff that I feel I need to bring for the weekend, I'ld motor up.


When we do our Saturday lunch outing (to an as-yet undetermined restaurant), it will be prudent for us to (1) arrive early at whatever dock we go to and (2) raft our boats up. Last year we encountered a nice fleet of go-fasts who went to the same dock we did. They were polite and courteous helping us get our boats out from between theirs. Now we don't know whether we will encounter these folks again, but it will be a good idea for us to raft our boats up (3 to 5 boats deep) in order to be good boating citizens. Rafting up will require that a few of us (at least the 3rd and 5th boat rafting up) will need 50 foot dock lines.

Group photograph sometime on Saturday is a must. We missed out last year.

More details to follow!

Happy Whalin!


UnderDog posted 03-22-2004 10:37 AM ET (US)     Profile for UnderDog  Send Email to UnderDog     
Hello Everyone, i talked to the wife last night and we decided that the best course of action for us would be to just make these a couple of day trips for us as we live 30 minutes from snug harbor. so we will see you all there fri sat and sunday. i may even motor from oakley on saterday might make it fun.

16 SL

Ps anyone talk to sal yet?

peteinsf posted 03-23-2004 11:58 AM ET (US)     Profile for peteinsf    

I can haul quite a bit of gear below. We could launch at a north-bay site and cruise up as a fleet. A couple of bigger boats could support all the extra gear for the smaller ones... It would be fun for photographs.

Petaluma, Napa, Crocket, (Richmond my be too much fuel, Iíll have to calculate it)

Just an idea...

andygere posted 03-23-2004 02:54 PM ET (US)     Profile for andygere  Send Email to andygere     
Did anyone beside Chuck use the Ryer Island Ferry (a.k.a. Rio Vista Ferry, a.k.a. Real McCoy Ferry) last year? I remember Hoop cautioning us that it might be trouble with a boat in tow, but couldn't recall if anyone with a rig bigger than a Montauk gave it a try. I do remember what a long ride it was up to the top of the island and then back down to Snug Harbor.

Chuck, I am assuming the approach angle is the tricky part, anything else that might be a problem (overhead obstructions, etc.)? Is bottoming out near the trailer dolly wheel the big concern, or is it the aft part of the trailer frame (assume outboard motor is tilted up)? Do you think it's even worth considering with my rig, say between 13:00 and 15:00 on Friday? Naturally, I'll take any advice given at my own risk.

UnderDog posted 03-24-2004 12:29 AM ET (US)     Profile for UnderDog  Send Email to UnderDog     
Hello Andy,
on one of the rides across the ferry I was parked right next too a very large travel trailer being pulled by a large suv, I would think after that your boat being pulled by your suv would be just fine.


Chuck Tribolet posted 03-24-2004 10:28 AM ET (US)     Profile for Chuck Tribolet  Send Email to Chuck Tribolet     
The problem is the back end of the trailer both getting on
and getting off the ferry. IIRC, I got on OK, but just
scraped the skeg getting off. This year I'll tip the motor
for the ferry. And the tide will be a foot and a half higher
which may help. I'd say go slow and have someone watch your

Hoop may have used it -- I called him on the cell phone to
tell him we'd made it OK. And he'd have had less trouble
because his boat sits about three inches higher off the
ground than mine.

The good news is that if you have second thoughts when you
get to the ferry, it's not much of a backtrack to Rio Vista.


Hoop posted 03-25-2004 02:51 AM ET (US)     Profile for Hoop  Send Email to Hoop     
Hmph. I can't clearly remember how I got home last year, but I think it was by ferry after Chuck called me. My recollection matches Chuck's: the thing to watch is the skeg as you are getting off the ferry. Taking the exit at an angle would help.

Pete, I do think you are right that an armada of boats could do just fine. Still, I'm going to drive up with the boat on the trailer and plan on getting there around noon on Friday. (Check-in time, I think, is officially probably 3:00 pm.)


andygere posted 03-25-2004 01:56 PM ET (US)     Profile for andygere  Send Email to andygere     
Hoop and Chuck,
I am assuming you both tow with your outboard down, and that the skeg is in danger of dragging as you enter or exit the ferry. Is this true? I'd be really worried if the skeg is in danger of hitting with the motor tilted up.
Joe Kriz posted 03-25-2004 03:26 PM ET (US)     Profile for Joe Kriz  Send Email to Joe Kriz     
OK, you guys have me worried now...

I don't think I am going to take the ferry.....

Can someone email me directions on the best way to get there from Upstate California without using the ferry? I will be coming down Interstate 5 towards Sacramento... Or, can anyone point me to a good Travel Map? I will also try Auto Club but some of you locals may know of better directions...


Chuck Tribolet posted 03-25-2004 08:17 PM ET (US)     Profile for Chuck Tribolet  Send Email to Chuck Tribolet     
I two with the engine partially tilted and on the built-onm
supports. It's at 35-45 degree angle. I can tilt it further.

Joe: The best way for you bypasses the ferries. There's
one ferry at the SW corner of the island, another on the
east side, and a bridge on the north end.

Starting on I5 southbound at Hood Franklin Rd. (just south of

Turn RIGHT (West) onto Hood Franklin Rd 2.7 mi
Turn LEFT (South) onto SR-160 [Victory Hwy] 5.3 mi
Turn RIGHT (North) onto CR-E9 [RR 1] 1.3 mi
Turn LEFT (North-West) onto (S) Courtland Rd [Road 158] 1.0 mi
Continue (West) on SR-84 [S Courtland Rd] 2.5 mi
Turn LEFT (South) onto SR-84 [Ryer Ave] 3.6 mi
Bear LEFT (East) onto SR-84 [Holland Rd] 65 yds
Turn RIGHT (South) onto SR-84 [Ryer Ave] 142 yds
Bear RIGHT (West) onto SR-84 [Ryer Island Rd] 4.8 mi
Turn LEFT (East) onto SR-220 3.1 mi
Continue (South) on Ryer Rd E [Ryer Island Rd E] 2.3 mi
Bear LEFT (South) onto Snug Harbor Dr 0.6 mi
Arrive Snug Harbor Resort [3356 Snug Harbor Dr, Walnut Grove, CA 95690]

Courtesy Microsoft Streets and Trips.


Chuck Tribolet posted 03-25-2004 08:24 PM ET (US)     Profile for Chuck Tribolet  Send Email to Chuck Tribolet     
BTW, for those coming from the bay area, the ferry saves about
forty miles of slow backroads.


Joe Kriz posted 03-25-2004 08:47 PM ET (US)     Profile for Joe Kriz  Send Email to Joe Kriz     
Thanks for the info... I was afraid of this... I did a MapQuest search earlier and came up with the information below... Obviously, there are many differences from your Map Search... If I get lost, I won't have my computer with me... :-)
Maybe I can't get there from here?


Merge onto I-5 S.
261.2 miles

0.2 miles

0.3 miles

1.7 miles

0.1 miles

Turn LEFT onto S RIVER RD/CR-E9.
3.7 miles

Turn RIGHT onto CLARKSBURG AVE/CR-E19. Continue to follow CR-E19.
3.1 miles

Turn LEFT onto JEFFERSON BLVD/CA-84. Continue to follow CA-84.
11.0 miles

Turn RIGHT onto RYER AVE/CA-84. Continue to follow CA-84.
4.9 miles

Turn SHARP LEFT onto CA-220.
3.1 miles

Stay straight to go onto RYER RD E/RYER ISLAND RD E.
2.2 miles

Turn SLIGHT LEFT onto SNUG HARBOR DR (Portions unpaved).
0.6 miles

End at 3356 Snug Harbor Dr Walnut Grove CA

Total Est. Time:† 4 hours, 49 minutes
Total Est. Distance:†293.04 miles
I guess if I get lost someone will hear me yelling and come to my rescue....!

Chuck Tribolet posted 03-25-2004 09:44 PM ET (US)     Profile for Chuck Tribolet  Send Email to Chuck Tribolet     
That looks like it would work too. It might be a mile or two
less than mine, but it has more surface roads. It gets off
I5 sooner, and the two converge where I get on CA-84 (BTW,
there's a turn there for you that's not in your istructions,
just stay on CA-84).

There's lots of ways to get there.

If you get lost, you can always use your GPS (I use a Garmin
eTrex to feed position data to my laptop when I'm driving by
myself on trips like this.)

BTW, if you are going to AAA, they used to have a really good
map of that area called Bay and River.


Hoop posted 03-26-2004 07:34 PM ET (US)     Profile for Hoop  Send Email to Hoop     

Confirming ... my Outboard is tilted up, then down slightly to rest on the 'keep-in-up-position' bracket that locks the motor in the up position. And as Chuck pointed out, I can tilt it up a few inches higher, which I will definitely want to do.

Underdog, glad to hear you are coming!


prm1177 posted 03-27-2004 12:10 PM ET (US)     Profile for prm1177  Send Email to prm1177     
Sorry for the delay in answering an earlier post. I motored up to Snug Harbor in my Outrage II 17 last year. it was a nice trip, although if you've never been up the Sacramento river before, the mouth can be a bit hard to find. I was fortunate to have a GPS, and it was a piece of cake.

It took me about 2 1/2-3 hours to get there from San Rafael. The return trip was slower as we had a big wind (50 mph) blowing down from the North on Sunday morning. That made the trip a "little" more interesting coming back. As I recall I burned about 3/8 of a tank of gas for the whole trip (about 17 gallons).

I we are going to have a Whaler Armada, we should arrange for a rendezvou somewhere in Suisun Bay. I plan to bring my handheld VHF this year, so Jim won't have to hunt me down on my cell phone.

ratherwhalering posted 03-29-2004 06:40 PM ET (US)     Profile for ratherwhalering  Send Email to ratherwhalering     
Matt and I may be stopping here for lunch on Friday If anyone is going to be in the vicinity, let me know and we'll nail down the specifics. Also considering Benecia Marina.
prm1177 posted 04-06-2004 12:50 AM ET (US)     Profile for prm1177  Send Email to prm1177     
I'll make a stab at meeting you and Matt for Luch (if I can convince my boss to let me leave before noon) and if the weather gods give me a smooth bay. What time Lunch?
ratherwhalering posted 04-08-2004 05:15 PM ET (US)     Profile for ratherwhalering  Send Email to ratherwhalering     
Probably around 1:30? If we leave SF by 12:00 I'm guessing we'll be in Antioch by 1:30...then on to the island by 3:30ish. Sound good?
prm1177 posted 04-09-2004 05:23 PM ET (US)     Profile for prm1177  Send Email to prm1177     
Sounds good.
Hoop posted 04-25-2004 03:22 PM ET (US)     Profile for Hoop  Send Email to Hoop     
Roll call time, with the outing only 3 weeks away now. And the weather looks pretty great today, so it must be going to be great then!

Based on the above, here's the list of folks (Continuous Wave handles) that I have who've indicated that they will be showing up at least for a portion of the outing. If your name is not below, please advise by your posting here or sending me an email. I'm going to be emailing the below, as well as folks in my own list, to get confirmation.

As I have in the past, I'm in the process for putting together a list of attendees with their boat particulars, names, et al. I intend to email this list only to those who will be coming.

Schedule for the outing ...
- Friday evening bring your own barbecue at the 'house at the point', Cabin #1
- Saturday - (early) lunch outing to Walnut Grove (unless we change it) Be ready to depart Snug Harbor at 9:30 am
- Saturday - barbecue dinner Pot Luck at Cabin #1
- Sunday morning - TBD

Best regards, Hoop


Joe Kriz / Whalerman
dan firth

peteinsf posted 04-26-2004 04:09 PM ET (US)     Profile for peteinsf    
Cabin #3
Marc posted 04-27-2004 04:59 PM ET (US)     Profile for Marc  Send Email to Marc     
Well I got my reservation confirmation today. Mostly to tell me they took final payment from my Visa.

We will be in #16. Kids have half day at school so hope to be there early!


Joe Kriz posted 04-27-2004 05:51 PM ET (US)     Profile for Joe Kriz  Send Email to Joe Kriz     
I got confirmation that my credit card was also charged today...

Cabin #17

No kids but I have about a 5 1/2 hour drive... I believe Check In is 3 PM so I hope to be there around then....

AQUANUT posted 04-27-2004 11:35 PM ET (US)     Profile for AQUANUT  Send Email to AQUANUT     
geeesh guys this sounds like a great time...used to belong to a sea ray club in florida..we would cruise to the bahamian island chain together....wish I could be there
at snub harbor, however I am getting married about the same time...and she didn't want to make it the honeymoon....silly women..huh?...Have a great time...I wanna make the next you only do this once a year?


Chuck Tribolet posted 04-28-2004 09:26 AM ET (US)     Profile for Chuck Tribolet  Send Email to Chuck Tribolet     
This is the fourth year we've done this in mid-May.


dan firth posted 04-30-2004 08:50 AM ET (US)     Profile for dan firth  Send Email to dan firth     
I've got a conflict brewing so I may not be able to make it... Assuming it blows over and I can, is there room at the launch ramp for my 25 w/whaler drive? I've launched at Sugarbarge before with no problems. How far is it from Sugarbarge if I were to launch there and cruise up?



andygere posted 04-30-2004 11:19 AM ET (US)     Profile for andygere  Send Email to andygere     
I launched my 22 Cuddy there off of an all bunk trailer with no problems. I think if you launch at anything other than low tide you'll be o.k. Sugar Barge is a fair distance away. We cruised from Snug Harbor to Sugar Barge (Bethel Island) in tandem with Caddis and his Revenge 22 on the second day of last year's Rendezvous, and I think it took us nearly an hour to get there.
prm1177 posted 05-01-2004 01:05 PM ET (US)     Profile for prm1177  Send Email to prm1177     

What should we shoot for as an arrival time on Friday?

Chuck Tribolet posted 05-03-2004 12:12 AM ET (US)     Profile for Chuck Tribolet  Send Email to Chuck Tribolet     
The launch ramp should be fine, though I think Andy ought to
comment as he's launched the biggest boat there. The only
clinker is that there's some current in the channel, so you
need to get the motor well warmed up before you back off the
trailer, then back out quickly (fast idle) with confidence.
Admiral Linda had no trouble with it.

BTW, to get to the dock, go downstream about fifty yards,
then hang a 160 degree right up the slough to the docks.


Hoop posted 05-05-2004 02:11 PM ET (US)     Profile for Hoop  Send Email to Hoop     
Hi all,

The official 'check-in' time at Snug Harbor is 3:00 pm. I'm planning on getting there around noon on Friday, May 14, and launching the boat. But not expecting to 'check in' (access to the Cabin) until 3.

By the way, for all of those of us in Snug Harbor cabins, bring your own linen!! (Sheets & blanket or sleeping bag, and towels.) The beds have reasonable mattresses but are covered in plastic, so having something extra between you and the plastic is helpful.

Regarding access to the slough, it's through a channel that can silt over with a low tide clearance of 3 feet in the center of the entrance.


LHG posted 05-05-2004 03:15 PM ET (US)     Profile for LHG    
Snug Harbor Cabins reminds me of an old Rodney Dangerfield joke:

"Listen, I stayed in this cheap Motel one time, and it was so cheap they stole MY towel".

Chuck Tribolet posted 05-05-2004 08:07 PM ET (US)     Profile for Chuck Tribolet  Send Email to Chuck Tribolet     
Nah, Larry, that was the place we stayed the FIRST rendezvous.


Royce posted 05-06-2004 10:48 PM ET (US)     Profile for Royce  Send Email to Royce     
Hoop- put me and my wife Lee on your list. We will come on Friday. Is anyone going to fish or are we just going to pet each others' boats? I don't care--both can be fun!
andygere posted 05-07-2004 04:39 PM ET (US)     Profile for andygere  Send Email to andygere     
I plan to do a little fishing, perhaps Friday evening or early Saturday morning before the cruise. I just learned that I need a Bay-Delta stamp for my fishing license. It sounds like a replacement for the striped bass stamp, which finally ended 2 years after the stocking program ended. I guess it was renamed so the tax continues even though the stocking does not. This ends my rant, but I remind folks that plan to fish to get the stamp if you don't have one already.

My pre haulout trailer check up revealed 1 frozen brake, 2 non-ops and one functional. All this in the 3 weeks since I launched the boat for the season, when all 4 wheels were functioning nicely! My Friday evening haul out has been scrubbed in favor of a wheel cylinder replacement party. I stocked up on parts today, even the ones I expect to break, damage or lose during the job. The net result is that Namequoit probably won't be waxed, compounded and pretty when she arrives at Snug Harbor next week, but she will arrive! If I had more time, I think I would be converting the system over to SS Kodiak discs. Perhaps this winter...

Hoop posted 05-07-2004 08:32 PM ET (US)     Profile for Hoop  Send Email to Hoop     

Fishing early Saturday morning sounds good to me. Andy, glad you mentioned that Bay/Delta stamp, I would have had no idea!

But I do think there will be a lot of boat petting going on!

I'll be emailing you to get some details that I'll put on a roster to distribute to all ... you and your wife's names, boat name/vhf handle, cell phone if you have one, boat description, et al. Don't post that here, obviously.

Hmmm ... we could have over 20 at our little event!

Waxing and other prep is on my to do list tomorrow!


andygere posted 05-08-2004 01:41 AM ET (US)     Profile for andygere  Send Email to andygere     
I now have functional brakes on the rear axle. The front will be done tomorrow, and who knows, perhaps I'll even oil the teak. I am getting stoked for the event. Royce, which of your collection will be see?
Royce posted 05-09-2004 11:48 AM ET (US)     Profile for Royce  Send Email to Royce     
Andy- The 1988 Outrage 18 would be the most practical-but it is the one I haven't really worked on the cosmetic details. If we bring the truck camper I will bring the Montauk or the 18--if I don't take the camper I will bring the Outrage 25 Cuddy and sleep on it. Does anyone know if lenght is an issue either getting to Snug Harbor or at Snug Harbor? We are looking forward to meeting you all!
Hoop posted 05-09-2004 02:11 PM ET (US)     Profile for Hoop  Send Email to Hoop     

Yes, length must be taken into consideration when trailering to Snug Harbor. Length is not an issue for launching or docking at Snug Harbor, just in getting there.

There are three ways to get to Snug Harbor, on an island in the Delta: two drive-on ferries and one bridge.

The approach to the drive-on ferries can be at quite an angle at low tide and some vehicles might not be able to make the approach without dragging. At high tide, I had no problem with my Ranger pick up towing the Montauk but I went very slowly. The prop, even tipped up, might drag at low tide. This time around Chuck did some research (above in the thread) on tides, and I'm thinking it will be OK for me to take a ferry.

The bridge is the sure access and is recommended for large bus-type campers, for example. But the bridge is on the north side of the island, and for someone like myself coming from the south, it is perhaps 45 minutes extra driving time. But better safe than sorry.

Be sure to call Snug Harbor and get their recommendations.

Just a week away!


Drisney posted 05-09-2004 07:09 PM ET (US)     Profile for Drisney  Send Email to Drisney     
Unfortunately I now have to work that weekend. I am sorry I will miss it. Dan tells me he has schedule conflict as well.
Bummer, Dave
Joe Kriz posted 05-09-2004 07:14 PM ET (US)     Profile for Joe Kriz  Send Email to Joe Kriz     

I was reading through the cabins and docks for Snug Harbor and the docks that come with some of the cabins are only up to 20 feet....

Still shouldn't be a problem for Royce if he is staying on his 25' as they do rent the larger slips/docks by themsleves without the cabin...

Just for future reference in case someone rents a cabin and has a boat larger then 20 feet... I'm sure they would want to know if they can dock their boat in front of the cabin they rent..

andygere posted 05-10-2004 01:41 AM ET (US)     Profile for andygere  Send Email to andygere     
The trailer brakes are all repaired, bled, adjusted and working. It just about killed me to go dip them in the salt to retrieve Namequoit, but that's what I did Saturday evening. I think I'm going to chicken out and take the bridge again. If it's close with a Montauk, it will probably be difficult or impossible with the 22.

Royce/Joe, last year there seemed to be plenty of docking space at Snug Harbor. Much of it is one long side tie dock, and if we're all efficient, I'm sure we can get all the boats to fit, even the big Outrage 25.

dan firth posted 05-10-2004 09:03 AM ET (US)     Profile for dan firth  Send Email to dan firth     
Hi Everyone,

As Dave mentioned above, I won't be able to join you all this next weekend. Hope the weather and the fishing are great. Can't wait to see the photos from the event.


Marc posted 05-10-2004 11:57 AM ET (US)     Profile for Marc  Send Email to Marc     
Well we are excited about coming as seems everyone else is too. Sorry some of you can't make it!

I won't have time to wax and shine the Outrage but we'll be there hopefully a little before 3 on Friday. Had some engine trouble last Saturday so we may be just sitting at the dock. :-( Does anyone have a good tow line? I might just be a big sea anchor if I can't get it resolved before the weekend.

Looking forward to meeting everyone.


Chuck Tribolet posted 05-10-2004 12:17 PM ET (US)     Profile for Chuck Tribolet  Send Email to Chuck Tribolet     
Surface forecast:

The Marine forecast only goes to Friday:


prm1177 posted 05-10-2004 08:52 PM ET (US)     Profile for prm1177  Send Email to prm1177     
More weather:

300 PM PDT MON MAY 10 2004



Looks like I will leave the marina in San Rafael before 1 to avoid the afternoon winds on the Bay.

Hoop posted 05-11-2004 09:20 PM ET (US)     Profile for Hoop  Send Email to Hoop     
Dan and Dave, thanks for your posts and for trying to make it! We'll miss you.

Marc, Andy is right ... there is plenty of dock space on the 'inside' where it is more protected. On a busy day with a full Snug Harbor, I could see how boat length would be an issue for those cabins with out-in-front docks on the Steamboat Slough ("outside") side. There are (almost) no finger docks/berths. It's just one long dock.

Dock space will be no problem.

I've updated the roster and will be sending it out to participants shortly.


Chuck Tribolet posted 05-12-2004 03:44 AM ET (US)     Profile for Chuck Tribolet  Send Email to Chuck Tribolet     
Are we trying to coordinate who's bringing what for Friday
and Saturday evening? I'll bring plates and utensils and
cups, and Linda baked something (probably deserty) tonight.


andygere posted 05-13-2004 12:30 PM ET (US)     Profile for andygere  Send Email to andygere     
1) We'll bring a pasta or potato salad to share with the group.

2) Has anyone considered taking 680 to 580 to 5 instead of 680 to 4 to 160? It might be a bit longer, but I do like the idea of sticking to the freeways with the big boat in tow, sometimes longer is still faster. Any thoughts on traffic for either route, assuming a 1:00 departure from San Jose?

Chuck Tribolet posted 05-13-2004 12:43 PM ET (US)     Profile for Chuck Tribolet  Send Email to Chuck Tribolet     
I took 680 to 580 to 5 last year. I ran some what-ifs in
MS Streets and Trips and decided that was the best way to
get to the bridge.

If you are leaving at 1:00 you would hit the ferry right
at high tide, though, and if you don't like it, loop around
Ryer Island.


Hoop posted 05-13-2004 12:53 PM ET (US)     Profile for Hoop  Send Email to Hoop     

So I've driven both ways. The Interstate 5 way is smoother and quite a bit longer. The 4 to 160 route was shorter, with a stretch of highway 4 that was not as smooth as most highways typically are. But the 4 to 160 route worked just fine for me.


Marc pointed out in my above recent post that I might not have been all that clear on dock space at Snug Harbor.

Snug Harbor is on a little peninsula. There are docks on both sides of the peninsula, and Cabin number 1 is at the tip of the peninsula and adjacent to the water.

Snug Harbor Cabins are in the center and on the east side of the peninsula, or Steamboat Slough side. Regular boat traffic is going up and down Steamboat Slough; there is a slow speed zone in effect, but sometimes folks go by a bit fast and there is some wake action. Docks on the Steamboat Slough side of the peninsula are reserved on a by-cabin basis and only for the cabins that are on-the-water. Most of these cabins are occupied by residents I believe. The launch ramp is on the east side of the peninsula.

The other side of the peninsula is what I'm calling the 'inside' and is very sheltered. It is accessed by going around the tip of the peninsula and entering the narrow channel. Water depth into the channel is relatively shallow at 3 feet or so. I'm thinking that we should dock our Whalers in this channel (on the "inside") where we can look at our boats side-by-side and where they are protected from most wind and wake action.


Hoop posted 05-13-2004 01:09 PM ET (US)     Profile for Hoop  Send Email to Hoop     
I'll be conducting a short Vessel Safety Check seminar on Saturday and am available for doing a VSC on your vessel. The URL for Vessel Safety Check information:

We have 13 boats signed up to attend our 2004 Nor Cal Whaler Rendezvous at Snug Harbor, beginning this Friday, May 14th. It is looking like on Saturday there will be 22 adults and 4 youth.

Here's the schedule, and it is subject to change ...

3:00 pm check-in with access to cabins for those of us in cabins
- Some of us will be arriving earlier to put our boats in the water 6:30 pm - Bring-your-own-food to barbecue at Cabin 1 overlooking Steamboat Slough (where Jim, Chuck, Paul M, and Andy are staying). Hot fires will be provided.

Saturday -
9:00 am Vessel Safety Check seminar - for those interested, at the dock
By yours truly ... A quick review of the Federal and California boating regulations. Do you know the most common reasons for not passing a Vessel Safety Check? Complimentary Vessel Safety Checks will be available!

9:30 am Captain's meeting at the dock - where we are going, how we will get there, boat-to-boat communication.

9:45 am Group photograph at the dock (with our own cameras of course) IMPORTANT!
Your being in the picture is the price you 'pay' for all of this fun I'm providing!

10:00 am Depart for Rio Vista (6 nm away)

11:00 am Arrive at The Point Restaurant on the water, just south of the bridge
Docking will need to be 3 or 4 abreast ... minimum dock space.

11:30 am Early lunch ...

1:00 pm Depart for cruise ... back up Steamboat Slough and circumnavigate Ryer Island or as far around as we can make it.

3:30 pm Return to Snug Harbor

7:00 pm Charcoal will be ready at Cabin #1

Sunday is open and on your own. There may be a group cruise to brunch by interested folks.

A word about Saturday lunch: the Point Restaurant is a lovely on-the-water restaurant in Rio Vista just south of the Rio Vista Bridge. Stop at the Snug Harbor store and you can get a discount coupon for The Point! The have a dock and are next to a Marina. Their dock can accommodate maybe 6 boats with side ties. I think we can get more if we dock 3 boats next to each other. I called the Marina next door and they currently have a group cruising in who said they will be using their 20 spots, but I will call them to check on availability on Saturday morning. So I'm thinking that, to maximize our chances of successful docking, we will want to leave early on Saturday (10 am is early) and dock early. The restaurant opens at 11:00 am or 11:30 am; I got conflicting messages. Menu items cost $6 to $12. Please bring cash.

What to bring:

For docking - be sure to bring sufficent fenders for BOTH sides of your boat. The boats we take to the restaurant for lunch will need to be docked 3 to 4 deep due to minimum dock space. Bring along plenty of line ... 50 foot long dock lines are not too long for the boats that are furthest away from the dock. It will take a half hour alone to get our boats securely tied up!

For our barbecues Friday and Saturday evening at Cabin #1 -bring along deck chairs just in case. The cabin has two picnic benches, but not enough seating for all 27 of us!

Chuck will bring paper plates and cups and plastic ware for both Friday and Saturday dinners. I will bring charcoal and matches. Each of us should bring barbecue utensils. (What else do we need?)

For our barbecue pot-luck on Saturday evening at Cabin #1, on the water ... fire will be ready at 7:00 pm. Come around 6:30 pm for socializing.

Bring your own beverage - you can use the Cabin #1 refrigerator.

Pot-luck items to share for Saturday evening - We need chips & dip, salads and vegetables, and desserts to share. Bring your own meat to grill and condiments, too.

For those of us staying in cabins, bring your own towels and sheets or sleeping bags. Cabins have pillows and blankets.

Until Friday,

Happy Whalin!

aka "Hoop"

andygere posted 05-14-2004 01:54 AM ET (US)     Profile for andygere  Send Email to andygere     
Can you estimate how long it took you to drive from say, the 101/680 junction in San Jose to Snug Harbor via 5? I recall some pretty slow going on the 4/160 route last year, and much prefer freeway to back road with my 22 in tow. I'm pretty sure I'll chicken out and take the bridge to Ryer Island, even though the tide will be pretty high when I get there. My trailer rides a bit low, and I'm afraid of bottoming out my low hanging spare tire as I load onto the ferry.
ratherwhalering posted 05-14-2004 12:29 PM ET (US)     Profile for ratherwhalering  Send Email to ratherwhalering     
Yippeeeee! I'm leaving work in 1 hour, hopping on Peacock, and putting the hammer down. See you guys around 3:00!


Chuck Tribolet posted 05-14-2004 12:49 PM ET (US)     Profile for Chuck Tribolet  Send Email to Chuck Tribolet     
I think it was three hours ish.

MS Streets and Trips says (from near Great America where Linda
was working at the time). These times are pessimistic
(about right for your grandparents in their RV).

160: 2:52
680/580/5: 2:44
Ferry 1:59

I'll be hitting the road as soon as I can lay hands on one
of my coworkers to brief him on something.

See you there.


Marine Weather:



Surface Weather:

andygere posted 05-14-2004 12:58 PM ET (US)     Profile for andygere  Send Email to andygere     
Thanks Chuck, see you there!
Marc posted 05-16-2004 08:28 PM ET (US)     Profile for Marc  Send Email to Marc     
Thanks to everyone for coming! We had a great time. Special thanks to Hoop for putting together the rendezvous. Thanks also to Tony (Elaelap) and Andy for letting us catch a ride in their Whalers.

Hope to see everyone next year if not sooner!


Chuck Tribolet posted 05-17-2004 10:41 AM ET (US)     Profile for Chuck Tribolet  Send Email to Chuck Tribolet     
Thanks, Hoop, for the event, and the courtesy vessel exams.

BTW, Adm. Linda and I Whalered up to the Grand Isle Mansion for
Sunday Champagne Brunch. VERY nice courtesy Dock. Would
hold the whole bunch of us whalers even though there were
three large (40') boats tied up. Good food. Pricey: about
$27 a person including tip. Reervations required, but we
made them by cell phone just before we tied up. The Diablo
Model A club had come by land so we checked out their cars in
the parking lot.


andygere posted 05-17-2004 11:36 AM ET (US)     Profile for andygere  Send Email to andygere     
Thanks again to Hoop for putting on another fantastic NorCal Whaler Rendezvous. Attendance was outstanding with ll boats and 28 Whaler fans participating in this year's event. I thoroughly enjoyed seeing many of my old Whaler friends again and meeting several more in person for the first time. Since this was probably the most photographed Whaler event in history, let's all coordinate to share photos of the event with one another.


peteinsf posted 05-17-2004 02:26 PM ET (US)     Profile for peteinsf    
Great job Jim!

Many thanks to all, Marie and I had a great-time eating then boating -> eating -> boating! It was fun putting faces to the on-line names and what a fleet (never seen an SL) and all ‚Äúpulled over‚ÄĚ at once. Next year I hope to have the boat better fixed up but all went well technically...

We did however have a nasty time getting home through Port Chicago and San Pablo Bay with tall short cycle wave attacks & 20-25 knot winds (boat speed 15 M/hr max). Total time was 3.25 hours Sung Harbor to Brisbane (South San Francisco).

See you all at the next one...


gregmaudsley posted 05-17-2004 03:06 PM ET (US)     Profile for gregmaudsley  Send Email to gregmaudsley     
Thanks to everyone for including a non-whaler-owning person in the fun. It was a real pleasure meeting you all. Feel free to shoot me an email if you'd like to do some fly fishing.

Take care,


Hoop posted 05-17-2004 07:26 PM ET (US)     Profile for Hoop  Send Email to Hoop     
Thanks to all 28 plus folks that showed up! I had a great time. I got some great boat improvement ideas and met some really terrific people.

Please extend my special thank-you's to the guests and spouses that came along. It was fun talking with them about their observations of our Whaler addiction as well as the many other topics over which our conversation ranged.

Worth doing again next year, is what I'm thinkin!

Happy Whalin!

Royce posted 05-17-2004 09:59 PM ET (US)     Profile for Royce  Send Email to Royce     
Jim- you did a fantastic job! You assumed the unenviable position of "mother hen" to the rest of us. Maybe next year we could have an optional day before for fishing. If joe Kriz comes next year I will bring more Jack Daniels- his 18 was outstanding though. Andy's 22 Cuddy was only surpassed by the man himself. I could go on about everybody there--truly an interesting and diverse(or was that devious) group. Lets do it next year.
elaelap posted 05-17-2004 11:06 PM ET (US)     Profile for elaelap  Send Email to elaelap     

Hope you and all the other attendees got my round robin letter...if you didn't, muchas gracias, amigo(s)! I was just talking with Joe Kriz about the event, and found that like me, he's usually not an enthusiastic club man or conventioneer, but we both agreed that the rendezvous was something special thanks to your great work, Jim, and thanks to all the great Whalers, those made of fiberglass, mystery foam and stainless as well as those in human form.


Marc posted 05-17-2004 11:44 PM ET (US)     Profile for Marc  Send Email to Marc     
My wife, Cyndi, was kind enough to put together a slide show/web page of our pictures. If you would like to share some of your pictures, please send them to me @ and we will get them posted.

In the meantime, please visit this site to view the pictures we have so far. Thanks to everyone for making this a fun experience!


Marc posted 05-17-2004 11:51 PM ET (US)     Profile for Marc  Send Email to Marc     

Ok, the link works great. However, if you have any corrections or title changes, let us know and we'll take care of it. I noticed a spelling error or two.


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