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Buckda posted 05-18-2005 11:47 AM ET (US)   Profile for Buckda   Send Email to Buckda  
Transferring some data from a separate post to bring a focused-topic to this section where things can be discussed about this trip.

Deadline for registration is June 15th, cost: $25 per person.

Buckda posted 05-17-2005 12:58 PM ET (US)
That Charlevoix official BW sponsored rendezvous is now up on the Whaler site with registration forms and information.
You must register by June 15th.

Who's in???


home Aside posted 05-17-2005 01:54 PM ET (US)
I'm in but I wasn't able to bring up any registration info, just the dates, said more info to come.

Buckda posted 05-17-2005 02:41 PM ET (US)
I was able to click for more information and downloaded a PDF with registration form and description of the event, along with an itinerary, and contact information for local hotels.

When you get to that page, click reload or refresh on your browser and see if there isn't a link under the Charlevoix event that will provide more information.


Royboy posted 05-17-2005 04:52 PM ET (US)
I'll be there too. For the info, go to and click on the underlined text under the Charlevoix listed event.
Looks like fun. Nice that they have an alternate plan for those with boats under 18', rather than trying to make it out to Beaver Island. Lake Charlevoix is plenty big enough for my 13 footer!


home Aside posted 05-17-2005 04:59 PM ET (US)
As it stands now, I'm doing both Kelley's Island Rendzvous and Charlevoix Rendezvous....I'm still adjusting things with my new job assignment for vacation time to make Isle Royal....
This new assignment with Day Shift and weekends off is a heck of a lot easier to take than the last 4 1/2 years on midnights... I'll keep you posted.

home Aside posted 05-17-2005 05:09 PM ET (US)
Dave & Royboy,
I just read the download for the Charlevoix Owners Event....sounds like they're discriminating against Whaler's under 18' have to be 18' to participate in the crossing to Beaver Island and if your 18' or larger they provide you with dockage for the Event....under 18' have to haul their Whaler's out and park them for the night during the event.....While I don't agree with that policy....I guess I could go along with it....I've been waiting to make the Beaver Island crossing for years, waiting for the right timing and group....I don't know what they can do to prevent me from going.....maybe leave me out in the middle if I break down.......I'm not syaing this from sour grapes, I'm just disappointed

Buckda posted 05-17-2005 05:38 PM ET (US)
Pat -
Nothing to keep you from "tagging along".
That's what I'm going to have to do anyway. There is no way I'll make a 7:00 PM EST captain's meeting on Friday afternoon/night with Chicago traffic and the time change. Plus I'll have to contend with all the Michigan folks running up there to their vacation homes. Anyone who's gone up on a Friday night in the summer knows that those roads are stretched to capacity. I'll be lucky to get there before midnight.

I think you can reserve dockage for your boat anyway at either that the Irish Boat Shop or one of the other marinas that are along that stretch of lake Charlevoix.

Just reserve the space now, so there's no argument. I already e-mailed them for a reservation slip, knowing that I won't be there until late.

I'll have to switch my motor to "whisper mode" when docking that evening.


kingfish posted 05-17-2005 05:58 PM ET (US)
I've downloaded an entry form and intend to send it in tomorrow along with a check.

Buckda posted 05-17-2005 06:15 PM ET (US)
Wonder how many boats they'll have?

Teak Oil posted 05-17-2005 08:02 PM ET (US)
I think I will be in too. Dont worry Pat, me and my "Loser" 17 will make the crossing with you as long as the weather is halfway decent.
Maybe we should start a new thread for this


sportroyalwulf posted 05-17-2005 08:18 PM ET (US)
I plan on going and will send in my papers. There may be enough rebels with sub 18' rigs to make a crossing on our own (weather permitting).
home Aside posted 05-17-2005 09:25 PM ET (US)
Of course I'll make the trip across weather permitting too, I'll be downloading the reg paper & sending a check also...Montauks Rule Too!!!!!

Where did you make reservations ? At the Irish Boat Shop ?


home Aside posted 05-17-2005 09:53 PM ET (US)
Anyone planning on sleeping on their Whaler at Charlevoix ?

Royboy posted 05-17-2005 09:56 PM ET (US)
Looks like all the usual suspects are lining up! My check will go out tomorrow too. I doubt we'll make the Beaver island crossing though, unless of course we're blessed with a very stationary high pressure cell that particular weekend. It would be an hour at WOT for me! Anyway, there is some mighty fine boating in lake Charlevoix and surrounding. Not sure where I want to stay yet, so dockage is up in the air. Will those private marinas allow us to raft small boats? Seems pretty silly to take up a whole slip with a 13 footer. My parents actually live nearby in Elk Rapids, so I can yank Ichthus out and go over there each night, but it might be fun to stay right in town there. Decisions Decisions.

Royboy posted 05-17-2005 11:09 PM ET (US)
A very few camp sites are available at Young Sate Park. I booked one just in case. It's right near the boat launch. Although the launch description says it's for 16' or less boats (I guess they discriminate in my favor!) the MRBIS says it's a "one", which is to say it's paved ramp. It's about 10 miles from the town of Charlevoix via the lake.

kingfish posted 05-17-2005 11:27 PM ET (US)
Dave (Plotman)-
Thanks for the tip about Google Maps.

Dave (Buckda)-

I'd be curious about sign-up numbers too. Charlevoix is a great venue; even Katie is making noises like she may tag along with me. I'm anxious to see if some of the other hard core GLBWCC members will become interested - I hope so!


Buckda posted 05-18-2005 10:10 AM ET (US)
Pat -
I didn't hear back yet from Irish boat shop re: slippage, so I just went ahead and mailed my registration form today. I figure I'll work it out with them for the slip reservation later this week or next.

I think JimH is considering it as well, so perhaps we'll get more of the "Detroit" contingent up there...Royboy blazed the trail...

I plan to sleep aboard the boat. No sense in paying slip fees AND hotel fees when one will do...but I'll definitely need to bring an alarm. That 7:45 departure is 'really' a 6:45 departure for me, after an 8 hour work day and an 8 hour drive the day before. Yikes.

Roy (and Sportroyalwulf)-

I think you would need a very stable, and stationary high-pressure system indeed. I think your boat could make it, even in choppy seas...but it's a matter of comfort man! (It would be really cool to see a 130 Sport out there on the Island after making the crossing...but I doubt that Whaler as a company would promote the crossing in their newsletter or Website, eh?!)


Royboy posted 05-18-2005 11:34 AM ET (US)
I make it out 10 miles or so on Erie on a fairly regular basis, but 30 miles is another chapter. Anyway, here's what the GLBWCC is looking like for Charlevoix:
Buckda; 18' Outrage
Kingfish; 22' Outrage?
Sportroyalwulf; 150 Sport
Home Aside; 17' Montauk
Teak Oil; 17' Montauk
Royboy; 13 Sport

Did I miss anybody? Should we start a new thread for this?

Royboy posted 05-18-2005 12:26 PM ET (US)     Profile for Royboy  Send Email to Royboy     
Looks like great minds think alike! Lets keep this one since it has all of the history right in it. Jimh, can you delete one of these for us?



LHG posted 05-18-2005 01:42 PM ET (US)     Profile for LHG    
I have to go a wedding that weekend in Chicago! That's what I call bad timing on the part of Irish Boat Shop. This definitely is not my year for Whaler events.
Royboy posted 05-18-2005 02:32 PM ET (US)     Profile for Royboy  Send Email to Royboy     
Here's the link to the registration form/info:


Royboy posted 05-19-2005 09:58 PM ET (US)     Profile for Royboy  Send Email to Royboy     
Well, my wife just bailed on me for this event, so it looks like I'll be going it alone, unless my brother can make it. Either way, I'll be jumping off from there to the U.P. for some fishing/exploring through the rest of the week and the following weekend, probably ending up in Cheboygan.

Dave I hate to break this to you, but Beaver island is on the Lake Huron Blue Chart package. It's on chart US 14902.


djahncke posted 05-19-2005 10:46 PM ET (US)     Profile for djahncke  Send Email to djahncke     

I just mailed my entry form and check. I will be attending with my son Michael and my Dauntless 17.


kingfish posted 05-19-2005 11:18 PM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
Got my hotel rooms reserved and am looking for confirmation of my entry application...

My plan is to get there in time for the captains meeting on Friday and then play the actual Beaver Island run by ear. Katie's interest in that long a run will flag due to weather a good deal before mine and I'll have to be attentive to that. I hope the weather is good because I've never been out there but if the weather is questionable for her comfort there's plenty of other boating to be done inshore.


Royboy posted 05-21-2005 12:10 AM ET (US)     Profile for Royboy  Send Email to Royboy     
I plan to make the captains meeting too, but mostly for the scavenger hunt. Not sure yet where I'm staying, either camping at Young State Park, or at my parents house in Elk Rapids.


Backlash posted 05-23-2005 08:45 AM ET (US)     Profile for Backlash  Send Email to Backlash     
Hi guys,

Registration form mailed this morning - looking forward to seeing everyone. JimG and Sarah will also be attending.


Buckda posted 05-23-2005 11:58 AM ET (US)     Profile for Buckda  Send Email to Buckda     
Okay! This is really shaping up well.

Looks like the following:

13' Sport

150 Sport

17' Montauk:
Home Aside
Teak Oil

Dauntless 17

18' Outrage / 19' Outrage

21 WA

22' Outrage

It's shaping up nicely. 23 more days to register!


Florida15 posted 05-23-2005 03:07 PM ET (US)     Profile for Florida15  Send Email to Florida15     
I envy you guys. I spent 3rd and 4th grade in Charlevoix back in the early 60s. We lived about 3 blocks from the lighthouse on Lake Michigan. I can remember how cold that water was. (the water here is currently around 80)
I haven't been back since. Hope to make the trip one of these days. Surely it hasn't changed much since '64 ?
Royboy posted 05-23-2005 03:30 PM ET (US)     Profile for Royboy  Send Email to Royboy     
The water is still cold!


Teak Oil posted 05-23-2005 03:43 PM ET (US)     Profile for Teak Oil  Send Email to Teak Oil     
Looks like I have a babysitter for the weekend so no kids!

I dont know about making the captains meeting, its going to be tough.

Teak Oil posted 05-23-2005 03:44 PM ET (US)     Profile for Teak Oil  Send Email to Teak Oil     
What motel is everyone staying at?
Buckda posted 05-23-2005 06:35 PM ET (US)     Profile for Buckda  Send Email to Buckda     
Bob: I'm staying at The Chateau Gambler. It's a small, traditional, cozy little place with excellent waterfront access. The room has wood accents and a nice skylight for star-gazing while you're still in bed. Very nice little place.


Royboy posted 05-23-2005 06:40 PM ET (US)     Profile for Royboy  Send Email to Royboy     
So far, I'm staying at the Rip-Stop Hilton on site 90 of Young State Park.


kingfish posted 05-23-2005 07:25 PM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
Here's where we're staying:

Sleep Inn
800 Petoskey Ave. , Charlevoix, MI, US, 49720
Phone: (231) 547-0300

There's also an AmericInn (or something like that) just a little further down the road; we stayed there last summer. It was so new there was fresh paint here and there, and it's a nice place too, a couple more bucks a night than Sleep Inn. Anywhere in Charlevoix in the miffle of summer is more expensive than it ought to be...


kingfish posted 05-23-2005 07:26 PM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
Miffle? What's that?

Try "middle".

LHG posted 05-23-2005 07:48 PM ET (US)     Profile for LHG    
I hope it's cold and rainy all weekend, blowing 40 out of the Northeast.
kingfish posted 05-23-2005 08:41 PM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
I hope your ability to predict weather is as bad as mine...

We'll all miss you and Susan - really sorry you won't be able to join us; it sounds like it's developing into an event!


Teak Oil posted 05-24-2005 10:06 PM ET (US)     Profile for Teak Oil  Send Email to Teak Oil     
Just made reservations at the SleepInn for the trip. Babysitters are set, ready to rock!

djahncke posted 05-24-2005 11:04 PM ET (US)     Profile for djahncke  Send Email to djahncke     

Great minds think alike. I made reservations at the Sleep Inn last Saturday. It looks like we might take over the place!


Eagleman posted 05-25-2005 04:01 PM ET (US)     Profile for Eagleman  Send Email to Eagleman     
Received the information/registration form today regarding the event in Charlevoix, will discuss with the ship's co-captain this evening. Could be a lot of fun!
kingfish posted 05-25-2005 04:08 PM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
Do I smell blueberry pancakes??
Teak Oil posted 05-25-2005 11:14 PM ET (US)     Profile for Teak Oil  Send Email to Teak Oil     
I dont know about pancakes, but I smell a couple Miller Lites!
PeteB88 posted 05-26-2005 11:22 AM ET (US)     Profile for PeteB88  Send Email to PeteB88     
We might show up sans Whaler to meet some of you guys. Cousin Jeff lives in Boyne City and is a lumber broker, builder and developer in that area for over 20 years. However, if I find my Montauk we will be part of the flotilla.

What's the deal on this 18 or over rule to go out to Beaver? That ain't right! Knowing what Whaler drivers do w/ 13s and 15s in California, Oregon and the Straits of Juan de Fuca I don't get it. Unless you guys have a different perspective Montauks etc are totally capable for off shore.

Let the skippers make this determination. I'd be happy to tell you about sailing a Sunfish to Beaver years ago.

Buckda posted 05-26-2005 11:44 AM ET (US)     Profile for Buckda  Send Email to Buckda     
Pete -

100 percent guaranteed that it is a "lawyer" thing.

Whaler and the dealers involved are covering themselves in case something happens to a smaller boat that tries to make the crossing.

They can easily say "we didn't allow it - the person did it on his own".

Looking forward to this event. It would be interested to hear from the Irish Boat Shop after June 15 to find out how many Whalers, total, have registered.


Backlash posted 05-26-2005 02:39 PM ET (US)     Profile for Backlash  Send Email to Backlash     

Hope you and Paula can make it, I know Carolyn and I as well as many others would love to see you guys.


kingfish posted 05-26-2005 04:15 PM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
Count Katie and I in the group Steve is talking about, Russ. I'll bring the blueberries...
Newport_whaler posted 05-26-2005 04:54 PM ET (US)     Profile for Newport_whaler  Send Email to Newport_whaler     
It looks like me and the little lady will be coming with you all - I just printed out the info and will know more later next week. -- Need to get a few things done with the Whaler- more fuel cap. GPS and things of the sort - would be in on the trip to the island for sure - weather permitting-- 1983 17' Newport (as if u could not guess that part). -- got canvass will travel--


home Aside posted 05-31-2005 08:08 AM ET (US)     Profile for home Aside  Send Email to home Aside     
My registration & check are in the mail. Just wondering, looking at the map, any hotels closer to the Irish Boat Facility than the Sleep Inn ? I'd sleep on the Montauk but still have to find out about getting a slip with only a 17' vessel....


Backlash posted 05-31-2005 05:35 PM ET (US)     Profile for Backlash  Send Email to Backlash     
I'd call Irish...I can't believe they wouldn't let you get a slip for your Montauk. We'll be sleeping on the boat at Charlevoux as well as Kelley's Island.
Good luck.
Backlash posted 05-31-2005 05:58 PM ET (US)     Profile for Backlash  Send Email to Backlash     
What I meant to say, Irish assumes anyone with a 17' boat probably would not sleep aboard so would not need a slip.
home Aside posted 05-31-2005 09:43 PM ET (US)     Profile for home Aside  Send Email to home Aside     
Everyone says I seem to know people, no matter where I go, well My old partner from Detroit Police Dept is from Beaver Island, born & raised there. He ownes a beach house right next to the old Coast Guard Station on the entrance to St. James Bay. He says we can also tie up to the old dock wall there if we like when we get there.
His older brother. who still lives on the Island, is one of the Captains on the Beaver Island Ferries, and says if need be, smaller boats could follow the ferry wake to and fro for a smoother run.
They also know the fellow who runs the ramp nearby that is used by the Irish Boat Shop, seems he's a retired Lansing Police Officer, according to them the intorduction is coming and I shouldn't have any problem getting a slip for the Rendezvous.....I'm not going to do anything stupid if the weather's not cooperating, but I'm really looking forward to this trip......and so's my Montauk....


Cicada posted 06-02-2005 10:36 PM ET (US)     Profile for Cicada  Send Email to Cicada     
Registration is going out in the morning.

I envy your contacts.

Beaver Island is another interesting place in Michigan with it's own little history and character pretty much defined by its solitude. My Dad used to fly over there for deer hunting and I've heard that all of the islands in that area of Lake Michigan have real healthy deer populations.

I'm looking forward to seeing some boats and connecting a few more faces to names from the internet.

Haven't decided yet whether to sleep on the boat or get a hotel room. Depends on what I can talk Suzanne into. Going to have to make a decision soon though. Rooms Up North can be hard to come by that time of year. My folks own a B&B in Tawas, maybe they can recommend something also.


Buckda posted 06-10-2005 03:24 PM ET (US)     Profile for Buckda  Send Email to Buckda     
Don't forget - registration deadline is 5 days away!

Teak Oil posted 06-11-2005 10:27 AM ET (US)     Profile for Teak Oil  Send Email to Teak Oil     
I sent mine a week ago. Did anyone get a confirmation, or do we just assume they got it?
kingfish posted 06-11-2005 11:08 AM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
Good question-

I would prefer (for this rendezvous *and* the Lake Erie Rendezvous) the courtesy of a confirmation. As of this point I haven't ween a confirmation for either one, and it's been a number of weeks for both.


Backlash posted 06-11-2005 03:41 PM ET (US)     Profile for Backlash  Send Email to Backlash     
Same here confirmations. Check to Clemons has cleared, but check to Irish (05/23) has not cleared.
Royboy posted 06-11-2005 05:07 PM ET (US)     Profile for Royboy  Send Email to Royboy     
My check to Irish (5/17/05) hasn't cleared yet either. Sounds like maybe they're holding them until the deadline passes. Maybe we'll get confirmations then.....or not.


sportroyalwulf posted 06-12-2005 01:34 PM ET (US)     Profile for sportroyalwulf  Send Email to sportroyalwulf     
Have not gotten a confirmation. Made an e-mail inquiry regarding confirmation and did not receive a reply as of yet.
Eagleman posted 06-13-2005 11:09 AM ET (US)     Profile for Eagleman  Send Email to Eagleman     
We will be making the Charlevoix Whaler Event. Will trailer into Manistique, MI late Friday night and plan on cruising over to Beaver Saturday morning from Manistique.
kingfish posted 06-13-2005 02:20 PM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     

Great news about you and Paula attending the charlevoix event!

We'll look forward to seeing you guys-


p.s. You've got email

Barry posted 06-14-2005 10:21 PM ET (US)     Profile for Barry  Send Email to Barry     
I've sent in my registration for both the Charlevoix and Kelley's events. I'm looking forward to seeing the gang.

I'm headed up to Killarney, Ontario next Saturday for a week of fishing.

Now if I can just swing some more time off for the Isle Royale trip...

Backlash posted 06-15-2005 07:28 AM ET (US)     Profile for Backlash  Send Email to Backlash     
Russ & Barry,

Glad to hear you guys will be attending - looking forward to seeing you guys again.


Buckda posted 06-15-2005 01:02 PM ET (US)     Profile for Buckda  Send Email to Buckda     
Ditto the above. Barry - hope you can swing the extra time off - would love to have you along..good trout fishing up there!

Have fun in Killarney.


jimh posted 06-19-2005 03:18 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
Chris sent in the registration a couple of weeks ago. See you all there!
RFK posted 06-22-2005 05:08 PM ET (US)     Profile for RFK  Send Email to RFK     
Nancy and I are sorry we will miss the Charlevoix Owners Event. My brother has a cottage on Lake Belaire, south of Charlevoix and we have had the opportunity to visit many lakes in that area. But since you are going to be in the area, try to make time to boat on Torch Lake. It is rated as being one the most beautiful lakes in the Mid-west. There is a sand bar on the south end of the lake that when the sun is out looks the closest thing to the Caribbean in the north 48.

For those of you who fish, Torch is the deepest inland lake in Michigan. Something like 260ft.

Teak Oil posted 06-22-2005 07:59 PM ET (US)     Profile for Teak Oil  Send Email to Teak Oil     
I have been to Torch Lake a couple times, it is a stunning lake. It is over 300' deep I believe. I know the sand bar right by the Torch River, thats the party spot
home Aside posted 06-24-2005 10:44 PM ET (US)     Profile for home Aside  Send Email to home Aside     
Still no replies from Irish Boat Shop regarding my Registration and check. Has anyone else heard from them since the posts a week or so ago ?


jechura posted 06-24-2005 11:11 PM ET (US)     Profile for jechura  Send Email to jechura     
My check has been cashed!


Backlash posted 06-25-2005 07:30 AM ET (US)     Profile for Backlash  Send Email to Backlash     
My check has also cleared.


home Aside posted 06-25-2005 10:07 AM ET (US)     Profile for home Aside  Send Email to home Aside     
Duh.....Earth To Pat.....My checks for Charlevoix & Kelley's Island have both cleared.....

Looking forward to seeing friends old and new at these events........


Royboy posted 06-25-2005 09:18 PM ET (US)     Profile for Royboy  Send Email to Royboy     
Check cleared.. Also looking forward to seeing old, and making new, friends at his event. Looks like we'll be showing up with quite the CW fleet there. Too bad no burgees, but I know I'll recognize a number of boats by name.

13 Sport

1981Outrage22 posted 06-26-2005 04:26 PM ET (US)     Profile for 1981Outrage22  Send Email to 1981Outrage22     
Hi all,

I'm sorry I'll be missing the Charlevoix event, I'll be on Beaver Island. Please look me up if you are making the crossing to the Island. I dock my 22 Outrage at the Old Coast Guard Station at the entrance to the harbor. If anyone is interested in a mini-tour of the nearby islands or is staying for the weekend, let me know.


Buckda posted 06-27-2005 12:01 PM ET (US)     Profile for Buckda  Send Email to Buckda     
My check cleared also. Additionally, I received e-mail correspondence back from them last week while I was out on vacation. It appears that the original contact, Linda, is no longer with the shop and a new person, Amy Koch is coordinating. She even provided me with her cell phone number, which goes a long way to making me feel like they're paying close attention to customers needs. I'm really looking forward to this rendezvous.


home Aside posted 06-27-2005 09:15 PM ET (US)     Profile for home Aside  Send Email to home Aside     
I also just received the E-mail from Amy Koch of Irish Boat Shop,
listing several events for Beaver Island Trip, Bus Tour, Snorkel Trip, etc, also mentions again the trip is for 18' or longer Whalers....Decisions, Decisions !!! Also lists Product Test Rides, and Scavanger Hunt on Lake Charlevoix.

I'll have to ponder my response as to what activities I'll be doing, I understand but still don't agree with 18' and longer policy for Beaver Island Trip...


Newport_whaler posted 06-28-2005 09:42 AM ET (US)     Profile for Newport_whaler  Send Email to Newport_whaler     
I also received an email. The email had 19 addresses on it. I wonder if that is the number going? It appears that the ones that are on CW are the majority of the people that are going (yea CW team-). If that is indeed the case then they will not have a good showing of people over 18' —(boats I mean, not people) from what it appears with confirmations on this thread. I wonder what they will do-I have an idea -------maybe they will let us take out a new fleet on Outrages!!!!!

Hey homeaside,

Have you been able to get in touch with the ferry? Maybe we can tell them we are going on the ferry--LOL--whaler owners that would rather ride the ferry!!

Tom — over--

Teak Oil posted 06-28-2005 10:15 AM ET (US)     Profile for Teak Oil  Send Email to Teak Oil     
I dont care what that thing says, if the weather is nice I am going to the Island. If the forecast says 1-2' waves I am there. Now 2-4, I will probably stick around Lake Charlevoix because I dont want to beat my wife that bad for that long of a trip.

kingfish posted 06-28-2005 10:39 AM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
I don't know how anyone can prevent any boat from making the trip if they choose to try; what I think they can do is effectively refuse any liability for any problems that might occur to or related to any boat that is not a part of their sanctioned group, and limiting the size of sanctioned boats is how they're laying the ground work for that refusal.

My check has also cleared (took a month), but I have not as yet received an email.


Backlash posted 06-28-2005 10:48 AM ET (US)     Profile for Backlash  Send Email to Backlash     
I agree with what John said about the Beaver Island trip.

John, you were included in the email, but just noticed that they have your address as

I have forwarded it to you.


kingfish posted 06-28-2005 11:36 AM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     

Thanks; I just opened up this thread again (and read your comments), because about 15 minutes ago it dawned on me that I might have used that email address - I haven't checked it in a week or so - and when I did check it, lo and behold, there is the message!

So I am now well advised and copied and back in the loop (until I confuse myself the next time!)

Looking forward to seeing you and Carolyn and the rest of the gang. It looks to be lining up to be a pretty well-attended event.


Royboy posted 06-28-2005 12:32 PM ET (US)     Profile for Royboy  Send Email to Royboy     
I think I'm going to hang back from the Beaver Iland trip, park my 13 footer, and see if they'll let me take a 320 Outrage with twin Verado's out wake jumping in Lake Michigan 8>) Is Door County too far for a demo ride?


Teak Oil posted 06-28-2005 01:16 PM ET (US)     Profile for Teak Oil  Send Email to Teak Oil     
I just got the email too. I asked Amy about the 18' issue and will post when I get a response
Backlash posted 06-28-2005 01:52 PM ET (US)     Profile for Backlash  Send Email to Backlash     
The deciding factor on the Beaver Island run will be the weather. If the big lake is turned up, we may all be participating in the Scavanger Hunt.

I'm sure anyone not wanting to run their own boat to Beaver Island will be able to hitch a ride with one of the larger Whalers.


Cicada posted 06-28-2005 07:04 PM ET (US)     Profile for Cicada  Send Email to Cicada     
Received the email also.

I agree with Kingfish on the Beaver Island trip. Maybe a few of us may need to run across as a separate group? I'm going to hold off a few days to respond to the option.


home Aside posted 06-28-2005 08:07 PM ET (US)     Profile for home Aside  Send Email to home Aside     
Have most people already reserved a slip in addition to their registration with Irish Boat Shop ? Again for me its the 17' issue, I'd like to stay on my boat, I like the comaradarie, hanging out on the dock, checking out everyone's Boats....really don't look forward to the haul in & out each day.

How many are staying on their Boats? How many staying in Motels ? A friend of mine has offered his condo 2 blocks from Irish, says if he and his wife are there I can stay with them, if they're not I can have the place to myself.....still would like to stay on the boat.....


Teak Oil posted 06-28-2005 11:31 PM ET (US)     Profile for Teak Oil  Send Email to Teak Oil     
Pat I am not going to get a dock. The best thing about a slip is you dont have your boat in a motel parking lot all night. If you can get a slip I would if I were you.

A bunch of us are staying at the Sleep Inn which is a couple blocks away I guess. You better make up your mind though they will be booked solid soone, if not already.

Heck I think I'll just tie my boat to Dave's and block him in LOL

Buckda posted 06-29-2005 09:35 AM ET (US)     Profile for Buckda  Send Email to Buckda     
Bob -

The Sleep Inn is a few miles away on the outside of town (small town). It is not a bad hotel at all - nice and clean, but still a budget hotel. They have a big parking lot that can handle your rig.

If you promise to be at the boat can raft off me if it is allowed on Saturday night, although I won't be arriving until very late on Friday night and will likely have wall space, according to Amy.

There is a few really great breakfast places in town that I expect we'll fill up on Sunday morning....



Teak Oil posted 06-29-2005 10:23 AM ET (US)     Profile for Teak Oil  Send Email to Teak Oil     
I was mostly kidding Dave but I appreciate the offer. I even have fenders now.

We will see how it works out. Everything is flexible as far as I am concerned. If it comes down to me or Pat rafting he can have it since he can sleep on his boat and I cant.

Hard to believe this is only a little more than a month away

kingfish posted 06-29-2005 10:30 AM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
Bob (and Pat)-

I believe that part of your registration is slip space for your boat on Fri and Sat nights - Irish has confirmed that for me anyway. You might want to check with them to be sure...


Royboy posted 07-11-2005 09:30 AM ET (US)     Profile for Royboy  Send Email to Royboy     
I have a site reserved at Young State Park; does anybody know anything about this campground? I have a place to stay in Elk Rapids, so I'm trying to make up my mind about camping. Anybody?


Newport_whaler posted 07-12-2005 10:43 AM ET (US)     Profile for Newport_whaler  Send Email to Newport_whaler     
Hey Roy,

I was looking at those as well but, they only had them for partials when I looked. I wish they had an opening for the whole weekend. I talked with Ben at Irish and he said he has stayed there and is very nice. Its about 10miles from the other side of the lake. Perfect--

I had reservations at Sleep Inn--(119night and did not have a room for friday night for me)--but then dicided to stay at

Uhrick's Motel & Campground
800 Petoskey Ave
Charlevoix, MI 49720
Phone: (231) 547-4881

they are only a mile away and are $89 for a cabin with kitchenette-and have parking for a truck and boat!


Newport_whaler posted 07-12-2005 04:24 PM ET (US)     Profile for Newport_whaler  Send Email to Newport_whaler     
Holy Moses,

I forgot to email Irish back and tell them what activity I was going to attend.

Is everyone going with the Beaver Island trip and forgoing the scavenger hunt?

Has anyone responded indicating that they are going to Beaver Island with a boat smaller than the 18' regulation and if so have they responded to your email repeating the 18' regulation?

I would like to know what people are thinking, assuming that the question prior to this one is a positive one. (Maybe a 1.5-foot bow pulpit on the 17)?

Or should I elect to do the scavenger hunt and then just go on Beaver Island trip (it weather permits), but not able to attend the trip around the island or diving? I am up for going-but if bad weather (for the shorter boats) would choose to hang tight.

Sometimes the way I think is contradictory to those much more intelligent than I about boating. (This is not hard — as you know Dave)


Buckda posted 07-12-2005 04:32 PM ET (US)     Profile for Buckda  Send Email to Buckda     
I've spoken with many who have responded to this thread recently.

The people who have been to Beaver Island before are generally of the consensus that they're staying in Charlevoix (beaver is a long way to go for just the day).

Those (like me) who have never been, are still planning to go (weather permitting).

Worst case scenario: I'm stuck test driving a 320 Outrage with twin Verados all day long. Darn. :)

Anyway...I think you should simply respond that you're going to the Island and do what you can/have to.

Personally, I've responded that I'm planning to make it out to the island, and will take the van tour. If the weather is nasty, based on the advice of those who have been there before, I'm staying in Charlevoix. The Island can wait and I can go out there another time when the weather is better and stay the night if necessary.

I'm looking forward to this approximately 70 mile run (about 35 miles each way); but the mid-afternoon return might be a bit fast for my taste...really it's going to be a splash and go tour - about 3-4 hours on the Island is all we'll get. In fact, I may forgo the tour (again, depending on how I feel) and circumnavigate the Island, or do some fishing for a few hours out there...depends on the weather again. If it's glass calm, I don't want to waste good boating time in a van driving around the Island when I can do it in my boat and enjoy the afternoon.

Tom - I know you'll do the right thing.


kingfish posted 07-12-2005 07:13 PM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     

The tariff Sleep Inn hit me with was $150.00 a night! Thanks for the tip about Uhricks - I just reserved one of their cabins too. They are apparently located right across the street from the Sleep Inn.


jechura posted 07-12-2005 10:01 PM ET (US)     Profile for jechura  Send Email to jechura     

You must be reading my mind. I will easily beg off the fudgee van tour for a cruise around the Islands.

If the weather a touch on the dicey side for the smaller Whaler's, there's plenty of room on the old 22.


Teak Oil posted 07-12-2005 11:21 PM ET (US)     Profile for Teak Oil  Send Email to Teak Oil     
I emailed Amy Koch about the 17' issue about two weeks ago and didnt get a response. I told her I was going to the island weather permitting. For me thats about 2' waves. I dont want to subject the wife to 70 miles of pounding through 3-4 footers.

My thought process is about the same as Dave's.

home Aside posted 07-13-2005 09:13 AM ET (US)     Profile for home Aside  Send Email to home Aside     
A while ago I was talking with my old partner, who was born & raised on Beaver Island, about this upcoming event. I'll double check with him on the correct figure but as I recall I believe he said it was about a 50 mile trip around the Island by boat. Just FYI when budgeting time & Fuel for trip out to Island, circumnavigation of the Island, and trip back to Charlevoix.

I'm still planning on going to the Island, Weather permitting of course, but I've driven all the roads there are on the Island and would much rather explore the waters surrounding the Island.

I'm looking forward to seeing everyone there.

Another thought, Is anyone planning of getting there early maybe a day or two ? Could be fun doing some Whalering prior to the actual event!


Teak Oil posted 07-13-2005 10:02 AM ET (US)     Profile for Teak Oil  Send Email to Teak Oil     
Pat as of now I am planning on taking Friday off and getting there in the late morning. I think we will use that day to explore Lake Charlevoix or the big lake if the conditions are calm.

Buckda posted 07-13-2005 11:16 AM ET (US)     Profile for Buckda  Send Email to Buckda     

LHG will be there early. Rumor has it that the 25 and the 18 are making appearances and the 21 is actually staying home.

I think there are a few others arriving early as well. You should have plenty of company...


kingfish posted 07-13-2005 11:48 AM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
I'm currently planning to leave from BC as early Fri morning as possible (8:00 ?), and get there 4 or 5 hours later. I may start giving some thought to leaving late Thursday afternoon and spending the night along the way or in Charlevoix, arriving late.

This is me thinking...


home Aside posted 07-13-2005 01:20 PM ET (US)     Profile for home Aside  Send Email to home Aside     
I'm thinking arrive Charlevoix Thursday evening if not afternoon, after that it's Fun slow walkin or sad singin allowed....

I hope LHG does bring out 2/3 of his fleet, I'd love to see his infamous Whalure Outrage 25 & t/t Whalure Outrage 18 in person......Wow....this outing sounds better all the time...


Backlash posted 07-13-2005 05:36 PM ET (US)     Profile for Backlash  Send Email to Backlash     
Carolyn and I are planning on arriving in Charlevoix late afternoon/early evening Thursday.

Looking forward to seeing everyone.


Cicada posted 07-13-2005 11:08 PM ET (US)     Profile for Cicada  Send Email to Cicada     
Suzanne and I are looking at Friday evening. Hope around five. We have reservations at the Sleep Inn.

I don't think we'll be signing up for the Beaver Island trip or Scavenger hunt prior to the event. I'd like to play it by ear and stay flexible.

Also looking forward to seeing and meeting everyone, See some of the boats that I've read so much about or seen in photos.

Will be a good time.


kingfish posted 07-14-2005 08:12 AM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
Re my last post:

Should have said, *Katie* and I are planning to leave BC..."



LHG posted 07-14-2005 02:16 PM ET (US)     Profile for LHG    
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but I have registered the old 21 rib-side for this event.
kingfish posted 07-14-2005 02:24 PM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
Good news - We get to see the newly restored 21.

Bad news - We have the newly restored 21 as a standard of fit and finish to put our boats up against...

Looking forward to seeing you and the 21 (is LCG still coming along?)


home Aside posted 07-14-2005 02:43 PM ET (US)     Profile for home Aside  Send Email to home Aside     
Any whaler model that you've spent time owning, I want to see, no matter what the model, I haven't seen the 21 since BWGLCC Norh Channel / Georgian Bay Rendezvous last August, I've heard rumor of the work you've been doing on her since then....So I can hardly wait to see her again...


1981Outrage22 posted 07-15-2005 02:15 PM ET (US)     Profile for 1981Outrage22  Send Email to 1981Outrage22     
Weather permitting, if anyone makes the trip to Beaver Island, I keep my 1981 22' Outrage (X-USCG) at the Old Coasty Station at the entrance to the harbor, I'd be happy to tour some of the nearby islands. The van tour of Island is great, but we've got Whalers.
Eagleman posted 07-18-2005 12:33 PM ET (US)     Profile for Eagleman  Send Email to Eagleman     
We will meet the group over on Beaver Island on Saturday morning, our ETA is 10:00-10:30AM.We'll be coming in from the West!
Russ & Paula
home Aside posted 07-20-2005 02:04 PM ET (US)     Profile for home Aside  Send Email to home Aside     
Hello All,
I just spoke with Amy Koch of The Irish Boat Shop regarding this upcoming owners event. A very nice lady!!

I asked about the 18' & over limit for the trip to Beaver Island, and if it was written in stone. She told me that they only put that in because the fellows at the boat shop figured no one with a whaler under 18' would want to make a trip like that, it is not a rule and is not written in stone. She said any length Whaler is allowed to make the trip based on the owners decision to do so. She also basically said it was the same regarding slips for under 18' Whalers. So I now have a slip reserved for the event.

I told her about this fine website, which she had not heard of before, and gave he a quick lesson on how to navigate through I told her that the group from CW was a pretty Hardy Group of died in the wool and saftety conscious Boston Whaler afficianados, many of whom own smaller whalers, and were excited about the prospect of making the trip to Beaver Island but were disappointed regarding the 18'limit. I also advised her that most of the participants would be basing the decision to make the Beaver Island run depending on what the weather conditions were. She thought it was cool that owners of smaller Whalers would be making the trip. So for me that is good news, and my anticipation level just kicked up a notch "BAM"

Amy also said there are around 50 registrations for the event....


Teak Oil posted 07-20-2005 11:11 PM ET (US)     Profile for Teak Oil  Send Email to Teak Oil     
Pat what was the cost of the slip reservation?
home Aside posted 07-21-2005 07:54 AM ET (US)     Profile for home Aside  Send Email to home Aside     
Slip registration for Friday & Saturday night is included in cost of registration, any other nights are additional, I forgot to ask specifically what the rate was a night.
I'm beginning to have a great disdain for heavy weekend traffic, so I'm going to attempt to leave for Charlevoix early on Thursday and return on Monday. That being the case I may request an additional night or two in the slip.
While Amy stated they mentioned the 18' limits because they didn't think people with smaller boats would want to make the BI Trip or leave their boats in the water, I want to, on a busy weekend with lot of boating opportunities I don't want to have to rush launching the boat in the morning when everyone else is already in the water and ready to go (not to mention I enjoy dock activities) and after a long day of boating I don't want to have to pull the boat when I'm tired....So as I said I was glad to hear these limits were not written in stone...I look forward to meeting you Teakoil, and to seeing everyone else from CW


LHG posted 07-21-2005 01:15 PM ET (US)     Profile for LHG    
Their dock rate, I believe is $2.00/foot. Prime summer vacation territory, as they say.
K Albus posted 07-22-2005 11:09 AM ET (US)     Profile for K Albus  Send Email to K Albus     
While in the Little Traverse Bay area, you may want to stay out of the water in the Bay Harbor area. See:
Newport_whaler posted 07-22-2005 01:24 PM ET (US)     Profile for Newport_whaler  Send Email to Newport_whaler     
I called and to get one of the slips yesterday and will not be privy to having one since the boat is only 17'-I also noticed that I received an email from Amy it is as follows

I am not able to get slips for boats 17' or smaller - I did try to assist others in your situation and was told that we don't anticipate enough room for the smaller boats to get slips. I have told the others, and I will tell
you that I will work on trying to find something for you as we get closer but, I am not being allowed to reserve slips for the small boats at this time. I'm sorry for the incontinence.
Irish Boat Shop

Oh well-

home Aside posted 07-22-2005 07:51 PM ET (US)     Profile for home Aside  Send Email to home Aside     
I also got that e-mail today from AMY renigging on the slip for my Montauk 17, I'll go with the flow, but one thing I don't understand is if your registration fee includes slip fee for Friday & Saturday, and everyone's fee is the same $25.00, then shouldn't slip space be on a first come first serve basis regardless of what size your Whaler is ?

Oh well I'm sure it will work out, I'll call Amy again this week, sounds like Irish Boat Shop isn't giving her much authority to handle things. She was very courteous & kind when I spoke with her last week.


LHG posted 07-22-2005 08:53 PM ET (US)     Profile for LHG    
Pat - I think you need Tony to sue them for violating your civil liberties and discriminating against owners of smaller Whalers!

I have been to their marina many times and they don't really have that much space after the seasonal slips are sold. I have been wondering where they are even going to put all the 18' and up sized boats. It's going to be tight.

I think you are looking at the $25 wrong and not realizing the deal we are getting. That is for food and tee shirts, etc, etc. It doesn't even begin to cover their transient fee. Even for a Montauk, it is $34/night. I think this is just a freebie for the larger boats, since they are more work to haul each night, and as an enticement for them to even attend. But you'll still get your money's worth, depending on how much you eat!!

If there are truly 50 registrations/boats, this marina is going to be a zoo with only the large boats alone. Rafting will be a given, along the high seawall I assume. Then there are the Company demostration boats. I assume there will be some Verado power for people to drool over.

home Aside posted 07-23-2005 08:50 AM ET (US)     Profile for home Aside  Send Email to home Aside     
Your comment about the suit really made me smile, If you only knew how much I disdain frivolous lawsuits!

I truly believe what you said is true, and I understand their reasoning, hopefully it will work out so we can stay in the water.

It's been several years since I've been to Charlevoix and I've never been to the Charlevoix Irish Boat Shop, so I don't know what their dock capacity or configuration is. I'm looking forward to some fun no matter what the dock situation is, I just want to hang out with the Big Kids and their Bigger Whalers, that may be why my post was so tunnel visioned. That reminds me I haven't had a ride in "Whale Lore" yet....


Backlash posted 07-23-2005 09:45 AM ET (US)     Profile for Backlash  Send Email to Backlash     
Here's my take on the slip situation: The $25 registration fee (per person) covers the handouts; T-shirts, etc., and the food and drinks, AND a slip reservation for boats 18' and larger. It DOES NOT include the nightly slip fee. This has been my experience in attending over a dozen rendezvous' over the years.

I too have stayed at the Irish marina many times and can't imagine how they could accomodate even 20 transient boats. I agree with Larry that the high seawall will have to be utilized for our group. When I say high seawall I mean HIGH seawall - there are several 8' wooden ladders scattered about to allow you to get in and out of your boat!

This should be interesting.


Royboy posted 07-28-2005 02:36 PM ET (US)     Profile for Royboy  Send Email to Royboy     
My wife is still waffling on whether to go or not. I think she's a bit embarrassed to be seen in a 13 footer at such a gathering, even though It's a really, really, decked out 13 footer. Of course, this is an excellent reason to buy a bigger Whaler (as if I need any excuse). I tried to tell her others will undoubtly show up with 13's, but she was skeptical. Regardless, any suggestions on how can I convince/intice/coerce her to come along?


Buckda posted 07-28-2005 04:14 PM ET (US)     Profile for Buckda  Send Email to Buckda     
Why would she be embarrassed by a 13' Whaler? That's the boat that started it all (although yours is a post-classic)!

No worries, I bet there will be quite a few small Whalers running around up fact, I can almost guarantee it. I bet that 50% of the Whalers these dealers sell are under 18 feet.

Tell her not to worry about it. No need for embarassment. Most guys in mega-yachts will still give 'props' to little Whalers...half the time, they own one, or want to.

When I did my very first rendezvous with folks from this site, it was the North Channel run in my 15' Whaler. The first night, we stayed at Drummond Island Yacht Haven and there was an identical boat in the was sitting on the bow of a very large sportfisherman and had it's own name: "Endorsement: Attached Hereto" The guy must have been a lawyer...anyway...kind of intimidating when in the company of two 25 footers, a 22 footer and a 21 footer. The boat did fine; I did fine and I got over worrying about being in the smallest boat (because quite honestly, I was having the most FUN).


ConB posted 07-28-2005 06:51 PM ET (US)     Profile for ConB  Send Email to ConB     
Anyone that has been around boats very long, knows life is a lot simpler for people that own small boats.
Teak Oil posted 07-28-2005 08:39 PM ET (US)     Profile for Teak Oil  Send Email to Teak Oil     
Roy if she goes then she can go for test rides in some bigger Whalers from the Irish Boat Shop and maybe you can get yourself a Dauntless or a Nantucket
Royboy posted 07-28-2005 09:09 PM ET (US)     Profile for Royboy  Send Email to Royboy     
Great minds think alike, Dave! I told her our little Whaler is what put the company on the map (although I might have left out the "post classic" part). Anyway, thanks for the encouraging words guys.


sportroyalwulf posted 07-29-2005 07:37 AM ET (US)     Profile for sportroyalwulf  Send Email to sportroyalwulf     
What everyone seems to be telling you to tell your wife is that "Size does not matter".
Royboy posted 07-29-2005 09:51 AM ET (US)     Profile for Royboy  Send Email to Royboy     
Seems like I might have mentioned that at some point over the 25 years we've been married, but who know; my memory isn' it used to be.


Royboy posted 08-01-2005 10:39 AM ET (US)     Profile for Royboy  Send Email to Royboy     
Apparently size does matter: this weekend on the St. Clair River she said the bigger boats were, "kicking sand in our face" and inquired how much a bigger boat payment would be. No wonder I love this woman so much!


Buckda posted 08-01-2005 11:48 AM ET (US)     Profile for Buckda  Send Email to Buckda     
Attaboy! Plenty of 'bigger Whalers' to inspect this weekend.

Talk to her about a 320 Outrage with twin Verados. :)

See you guys this weekend. Looks like the weather will cooperate.
(Knocking on wood)

Royboy posted 08-01-2005 02:19 PM ET (US)     Profile for Royboy  Send Email to Royboy     
I mentioned that very boat, Dave, and she said they probably wouldn't let me go straight from "training wheels", a.k.a. my 13, to a "truck", a.k.a the 320 and Twins. I know, not very nice, but she means well. Perhaps something in between, such as the 22 WT for sale nearby?


Teak Oil posted 08-01-2005 11:35 PM ET (US)     Profile for Teak Oil  Send Email to Teak Oil     
Only three more days of work!!!

I am pumped, but of course the ole Evinrude was acting up a little this weekend and stalling at idle. A couple cans of Sea Foam and some new plugs are going in

sportroyalwulf posted 08-02-2005 08:00 PM ET (US)     Profile for sportroyalwulf  Send Email to sportroyalwulf     
Has designated vhf channel been chosen for the rendezvous or early arrivals??
Buckda posted 08-03-2005 09:45 AM ET (US)     Profile for Buckda  Send Email to Buckda     
James -

I don't think one has been established - but I bet the marina monitors 68, and they will be able to give you that information if it is available when you get there.

I regularly scan 9,16, 22a, 68, 69 and 72 when I'm running (16 to hear the coasties talking to boaters in distress, and 22a because that's where they usually send them from 16 to get details - or "for the rest of the story").

You should be able to get my attention by calling me (Gambler) on 16. We can then establish a chatter channel.


Knock on wood, but the weather looks like it will be very nice with winds shifting to the South on Saturday, which should translate into smaller seas for the run back from the Island.


Royboy posted 08-03-2005 10:22 AM ET (US)     Profile for Royboy  Send Email to Royboy     
I monitor the same chanels as Dave. Hail on 16 or 9 and I'll answer to "Ichthus" )pronounced "Ick thus". We'll be on the water on Friday morning.


kingfish posted 08-03-2005 10:55 AM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
Anybody need rooms Friday and Saturday night?

I am currently invoved in a self-inflicted imbroglio with Sleep Inn in Charlevoix over reservations I made back in May and forgot to cancel when I found better prices across the street at Uhrick's Motel and Campground. I called this morning to cancel and was summarily told I had to do so before 4:00 last night and it was now too late, that they would charge my credit card whether I showed up or not.

So before I bring out the howitzers, I though a path of least resistance might be to see if anyone is in need of rooms, who would want to simply take over my reservations.

Please let me know PDQ if you need a room, because by sometime this afternoon lacking a plan to transfer the reservations to someone else, I'm going to start climbing the corporate ladder at Sleep Inn.



Buckda posted 08-03-2005 11:21 AM ET (US)     Profile for Buckda  Send Email to Buckda     
That's easy...cancel credit card, or dispute it with them. They're tough bargainers usually on your behalf.

For clarification - will they charge you for one night, and cancel the rest of the reservation no charge? If so - that actually sounds reasonable from their standpoint.

Good luck in settling everything out.

kingfish posted 08-03-2005 11:47 AM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
Nah - it was a 2-night minimum to reserve for this weekend, so they aren't initially interested in giving me any credit (and I'm not interested in being stuck with any penalty, for that matter; this is a busy weekend of hot summer days in a resort town and they won't have any trouble getting rid of the rooms if they put them on the market *now*).

Any takers??


Newport_whaler posted 08-03-2005 01:45 PM ET (US)     Profile for Newport_whaler  Send Email to Newport_whaler     

I just had to cancel- due to family illness-- from Uhrick's (Cabin). I will not be able to make it. They did not charge me anything and you could use the Sleep Inn instead, if you are already going to have to pay them.

To all of you-
I hope you guys and gals have a great weekend and will be thinking of you (would have been great to have be able to put faces to names and boats). It feels like someone just stole my Whaler!! What an empty feeling.

Good Luck - Good weather- Good Whalering-

Thanks for the Info as well Dave-

Tom --- over

Royboy posted 08-03-2005 02:30 PM ET (US)     Profile for Royboy  Send Email to Royboy     
That sounds pretty unreasonable; 48 hours notice for a hotel room cancellation? I just cancelled our campsite reservations (to the delight of my better half, I hasten to add) and it cost $5. We're staying in Petoskey instead. I wouldn't wait too long to bring out those Howitzers, John. 24 hours should be an acceptable amount of time for them to fill their room at this time of year.


sportroyalwulf posted 08-03-2005 03:03 PM ET (US)     Profile for sportroyalwulf  Send Email to sportroyalwulf     
I will call on the channels listed. Someone may have to give me a lesson since I will be using the vhf for the first time. Also, Dave please bring the clamp and antenna with you if you still have it. I have a set up with a 3 ft but I may want the option of the 8ft.
kingfish posted 08-03-2005 03:12 PM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
Their policy turns out to be 72 hours - our reservation at Sleep Inn wouldn't have begun until Friday night. But I see your point (and agree), 48 hours should be plenty up there this time of year to sell the room. Their manager was more reasonable during our second round of discussions and is claiming to be bending over backwards to sell the rooms (they won't attempt to charge me if they are sold - that *would* have been world war III), but told me the policy is from out of state owners that she can't meddle with. I'm sure she could figure a way if she wanted to, and I currently think I left her feeling better about trying to be creative; certainly better about actively marketing them. So at this point I'm going to cast my fate to the winds, and if the problem persists, I'll contest the charges through my credit card. They have been notified.



kingfish posted 08-03-2005 03:14 PM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
p.s. Tom, I'm sorry you can't make it - I was looking forward to meeting you. Next time, and I hope the illness is minor and soon better-


Buckda posted 08-03-2005 04:08 PM ET (US)     Profile for Buckda  Send Email to Buckda     

Here's how you do it:
"Gambler, Gambler, Gambler, this is Sportroyalwulf on 16(or whatever channel you're calling on)."
(repeat once, if no immediate response)
"Sportroyalwulf this is Gambler, go to six eight."
(change your VHF channel to 68)

You: (Calling on Channel 68)
"Gambler, Gambler, Gambler, this is Sportroyalwulf on 68."

"Go Ahead Sportroyalwulf."

Then we can talk.

You don't have to follow that format exactly, but you get the idea. The important thing is to clear channel 16 as quickly as possible so that other people can use the channel for calling other boats, and so that the Coast Guard can use it if someone needs assistance. If you/we yammer on for very long on 16, guaranteed that Coast Guard group Charlevoix will come on the frequency and ask us to move to another freq. They may be nice about it, they may be rude. It's no big deal - but you should do your best to keep channel 16 as clear as possible.

Once we've established a channel to use as a larger group, we can avoid calling on 16 alltogether and simply use the station we decide on. Chances are that 68 will be crowded with other local boaters/fishermen...but it's a good starting point.

John -

We're rooting for you from this end. The key is to go by the hotel in the evening and take a digital photograph of the "NO VACANCY" sign if they decide to charge you.....


Buckda posted 08-03-2005 04:10 PM ET (US)     Profile for Buckda  Send Email to Buckda     
James -
The antenna is in a cardboard tube laying against the boat (I placed it that way on Sunday so I wouldn't forget it when I pick up the boat on Friday).

See you on Friday night/Saturday morning. It looks like I won't get out from work until 1:00 PM ET, meaning a 9 PM arrival local time, if not later.


banff22 posted 08-03-2005 04:22 PM ET (US)     Profile for banff22  Send Email to banff22     
Good call Dave. I was planning to tell John to check if they sold his paid for rooms. Then let them have it with both barrels.

I wish I could take those rooms.

Have fun everyone. If the weather is like up here it will be a wonderful weekend. 45 with index today.


Teak Oil posted 08-03-2005 10:56 PM ET (US)     Profile for Teak Oil  Send Email to Teak Oil     
I thought 16 wasnt supposed to be used for hailing anymore, just 9? 16 is supposed to be the Coast Guard only channel I believe.

I havent figured out how to get my dumb radio to monitor more than one channel but I will mess with it and try to keep an eye on 9 and 68.

home Aside posted 08-03-2005 11:41 PM ET (US)     Profile for home Aside  Send Email to home Aside     
I had planned to get out the door early tomorrow morning, but a last minute Court date came up for 9am tomorrow, so I have to deal with that, hopefully we'll be on the rooad by early afternoon, will stop in Lewiston, Mi to spend the night with my parents, and then on to Charlevoix early Friday, about 1.5 hour drive. So my Son Case and I look forward to seeing you all in safely

Pat Henahan

TomG posted 08-04-2005 07:57 AM ET (US)     Profile for TomG  Send Email to TomG     
Channel 9 is the accepted general recreational boating channel and should always be used for hailing. You shouldn't hail on Channel is reserved for emergency use and the Coast Guard will come on and scold you! I probably hear 10 of these "lashings" a day when we are out fishing.


Cicada posted 08-04-2005 08:22 AM ET (US)     Profile for Cicada  Send Email to Cicada     
One more day. Still not certain of time of departure here tomorrow. Most likely arriving late afternoon.

Weather looks like it's going to be near perfect.
Offshore forecast:

We are staying at the Sleep Inn. I'll be check into room availability while I'm there. I don't think you'll have a problem with the charge etc. Chances are the room will be sold and that'll be the end of it. Pretty typical of the hotels, b&b's, etc up there.

Looking forward to the trip.


Teak Oil posted 08-04-2005 08:49 AM ET (US)     Profile for Teak Oil  Send Email to Teak Oil     
So who's all staying at the Sleep Inn? I see myself and Paul will be there. Anyone else?
Buckda posted 08-04-2005 09:01 AM ET (US)     Profile for Buckda  Send Email to Buckda     
Interesting comments about 16. My experience and observations out of St. Joseph is that most hail on 16 and immediately switch to either 68 or 72. The coasties don't come to scold unless someone goes beyond the connection with the boat they're hailing and a response to switch to another channel.

According to many web resources and my memory, channels 9 and 16 are accepted hailing feqs.

Not that I'd deliver a tirade to a coastie who complained about me hailing someone on 16...but I might ask the coastie to switch to 22a and ask him why they have a problem with me doing what the channel was designed for when all the literature in my VHF manual states that hailing is what channel 16 is reserved for. (As I said earlier - hail a vessel, make the connection and get off that freqency - no chatting allowed.)

James - for this weekend's purposes, you can hail me on any of the previously mentioned freqs since I monitor them whenever my VHF is on.

Regards, and see you guys this weekend.

Buckda posted 08-04-2005 09:01 AM ET (US)     Profile for Buckda  Send Email to Buckda
kingfish posted 08-04-2005 09:09 AM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
For What it's Worth-

Channel 16 is still the reserved channel for hailing *and* Coast Guard in Canada (well at least in the Eastern North Channel and Northern Georgian Bay of Ontario), and you get promptly chewed out by the CG, who apparently monitors the channel closely, if you use 16 for anything other than the initial hail and immediate settling of the channel the hailer and hailee are going to use for communications.


K Albus posted 08-04-2005 09:22 AM ET (US)     Profile for K Albus  Send Email to K Albus     
Here's a link to an FCC webpage explaining the appropriate use for each of the VHF channels:

Although channel 16 is still an official "calling" channel,on Lake Michigan the Coast Guard and FCC encourage you to use channel 9 in non-emergency situations. See, e.g.,

Buckda posted 08-04-2005 09:42 AM ET (US)     Profile for Buckda  Send Email to Buckda     
Bob - If you have an ICOM - you shoud be able to "tag" channels you want to monitor. Let me know if you don't have your manual and I can give you instructions on how to do this.

Then simply hit "scan" and you will scan all your tagged freqs.

Still do not see any problem at all with the details I gave James above. At no point did I recommend that we carry on a conversation on channel 16 beyond connection, and instructions to switch to a working frequency.

Buckda posted 08-04-2005 09:48 AM ET (US)     Profile for Buckda  Send Email to Buckda     
Paul - 3-5's isn't my idea of perfect for a 35 mile run...especially with winds out of the south as we trudge back upwind to Charlevoix.

Not awful, but far from perfect.

It will be bumpy.


Buckda posted 08-04-2005 05:50 PM ET (US)     Profile for Buckda  Send Email to Buckda     
I got my slip assignment - I'm slip #2 at the Ferry Ave Docks.


Cicada posted 08-04-2005 07:16 PM ET (US)     Profile for Cicada  Send Email to Cicada     

I must admit I was looking at the weather in general rather than lake conditions. The 3 to 5 foot waves are forecast for tonight and Sunday. Saturday forecast is for waves building to 1 to 3 feet, Saturday night building to 2 to 4 feet. With the typical weather pattern on the lakes the run over to Beaver Island should be real pleasant. The return may be less than perfect but managable and hopefully not a trudger.

Did you call Irish for the slip assignment or were you notified via email?

Looking at arriving Charlevoix late afternoon.


Buckda posted 08-04-2005 07:24 PM ET (US)     Profile for Buckda  Send Email to Buckda     
Called and bugged/begged her for it. I orignally thought I'd have to work all day tomorrow, and subsequently wouldn't get there until well after midnight on Friday night/saturday morning. Now it looks like I may get away at the halfway point, so a 9 or 10:00 arrival is estimated.

Teak Oil posted 08-07-2005 10:20 PM ET (US)     Profile for Teak Oil  Send Email to Teak Oil     
Well Boston Whaler put on a fantastic event and me and the wife had a great time.

The trip back from Beaver Island loosened five bow rail screws but other than that the boat was fine. I was impressed that the president of Boston Whaler also made the trip.

I was glad to meet Jim, Paul, Don, Pat and countless others this weekend and got to see some great boats also.

Thanks everyone for a great time


By the way the problem of the engines stalling turned out to be a closed vent on the tank. After setting a new all time top speed for me and the boat this morning (46.4) I noticed the Tempo tank was half collapsed! It was too dark to notice last night, and at idle the pump couldnt suck the fuel out. Unfortunately it screwed up my night cruise for a dumb reason, but at least it didnt cost me any $$$

jimh posted 08-08-2005 07:16 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
Charlevoix Boston Whaler OWNER'S EVENT

What a great weekend in Charlevoix! The weather was almost perfect. It was warm, sunny, and beautifully fair weather all weekend, although the SW breeze was a little too strong at times. Lake Michigan had 2-3 foot waves rolling up with a long fetch, so it was a little rougher than we would have liked. The sky was beautifully blue, the water crystal clear, and the humidity very low all weekend.

The IRISH BOAT SHOP people were absolutely wonderful hosts. They ran a great event. What a fabulous dealership. They are first-class people and run a first class-operation. They are a great place to go for a Boston Whaler boat, for service, or for parts. Their top service guy has worked there for 28 years! That should tell you something. Their boat shop works on 70-foot carbon fiber sailboats. These guys know the marine business. A tip of the Whaler visor to Rick, Amy, Cyndi, Bob, and all the other Irish Boat Shop folks. Thanks for a great rendezvous.

The BOSTON WHALER factory really turned out for this event! We had the President, the Director of Marketing, top-level Engineering/Design, the Voice-of-the-Customer, and Midwest Sales Manager in attendance! It was a chance to meet the people who run, market, design, research, and sell Boston Whaler boats. John, Terri, Len, Catherine, and Dennis--nice to meet you and glad you came to our Midwest region to meet all of your diehard Boston Whaler fans!

The DEMO RIDES were great. You could drive Verado-powered Whalers in several styles and sizes: OUTRAGE 210. CONQUEST 235, OUTRAGE 240, and DAUNTLESS 220. It was no problem to get behind the wheel and try out the Verado power steering and Digital Throttle and Shift (DTS). Everyone was amazed with the quiet power and smooth response of Mercury's four-stroke machine.

A great collection of beautiful classic Whalers in Bristol condition was on hand, too.

I met so many folks my head is still spinning. I hope I can coordinate all the screen names, boat names, real names, and faces!

If you have some good pictures, email me a few. I will put up an article about the event in the very near future.

Backlash posted 08-08-2005 10:47 AM ET (US)     Profile for Backlash  Send Email to Backlash     
I echo Jim's comments on this rendezvous. The folks at Irish Boat Shop were the perfect hosts and orchestrated one of the finest, best organized Whaler events I have ever attended. No detail (or expense) was overlooked - including the superb Columbian coffee and fresh donuts every morning. No typical weak, watered down coffee for these guys! This is truly a first class organization and certainly one of the finest Whaler dealerships in the country.

I am constantly amazed at the quality people who frequent this site and I was honored to meet many this past weekend. I only regret that I couldn't have spent more time with many of these new faces.


Buckda posted 08-08-2005 11:28 AM ET (US)     Profile for Buckda  Send Email to Buckda     
Trip was excellent — great to meet new faces and people, and also an excellent opportunity to meet folks from Whaler.

I arrived at sunset and managed to get the boat in the water before it was completely dark. Continued to have problems with my starter motor but isolated it to the solenoid. A gentle tap on the solenoid with a hammer "fixed it" for the weekend — so I was on the phone with my mechanic this morning and he-foots ordering a new solenoid for me that I-footll install this coming weekend.

When I woke up at 7:00 AM EDT (6 am for me), I was surprised to see the president of Boston Whaler walking along the dock behind the boat. He asked if we (myself and JECHURA in his 22-foot Outrage SPOUTER) had spent the night in our boats.


"That-foots awesome" was his reply. In 45 minutes we were saddled up and ready for the run to Beaver Island.

Whaler brought a 240 Outrage with 250 HP Verado, which ended up being the flagship vessel for the crossing, with the president of Whaler at the helm. Kingfish was in his 22-foot Outrage OUTRE, then JECHURA in his 22-foot Outrage SPOUTER, then Cicada in his 18-foot Outrage, then me in GAMBLER, then a 17-foot Outrage (the only other post-classic Whaler in the crossing), then TeakOil in his 17-foot Montauk and HomeAside in his 17-foot Montauk.

Eight boats in all. Whaler brought a Mercury mechanic along in case of problems, however it turned out that the Verado and my 150 HP black max were the only Mercury motors in the fleet. Blessedly, there were no mechanical problems at all, for any of the motors (mostly OMC, two Yamahas (kickers) and the two Mercs).

The ride over was mostly uneventful — we followed the recommended course to St. James Bay on Beaver Island and were running in 1-3 foot following seas at around 22 MPH. Arrival on the Island was uneventful also, but it bears noting that it is a beautiful little approach to the bay/town and could definitely be a setting that might be used in a movie. The town is quaint, and the attitude very laid back (as it should be on an island).

The tour of the island (really only part of the island) was fine — and included lots of personal anecdotes from our tour guide, a third-generation islander, and from the information given on the tour, a significant landowner on the island.

We had lunch at a small deli near the marina (excellent olive burger and pasta salad) and got back underway at around 2:00 pm. Kingfish and HomeAside had left early, Pat was concerned about the building SSW wind that was becoming a stiff breeze.

Paul and I set our canvas in anticipation of a rough crossing — forward shelter, windshield and flying top.

As we cleared the island to the south, the full fetch of the wind had built the waves to solid and steady 3 footers with the occasional 4 or 5 footer thrown in for good measure.

As a side note, someone once posted the military specs for the 19-foot Guardian — they wanted a rapid assault boat capable of transporting 6 or 8 troops through 1-2 meter waves (3 to 6 footers). I think that Whaler sized that order just about perfectly since 6 foot windblown waves is all you really want in the 18 if you-footre going somewhere. The 3-5-foots we experienced were not awful and it really wasn-foott a bad crossing…I was able to maintain 3,000 RPM and around 18 MPH, but Paul and I definitely did some admiration of the quality gelcoat work on the keel of our 18s. We had the boats up and out of the water a few times in the crossing. SPOUTER and OUTRE performed as expected — rock solid and both benefiting from the use of trim-tabs. The 240 Outrage too, was a solid performer but you definitely noticed the differences in spray deflection between the classics and post-classics. The newer boat "shoots" it out a bit more than the classic 22 — it just pounds that spray back down on the water off the chines.

The 17-foot Montauk followed the 240 — allowing them to break down the waves a bit and it appeared that they were making good headway without too much trouble (though it sounds like a few screws came loose!). I have to admit — I lost two screws too. One from my dash panel (that secures the metal guage plates) and one of my screws that secures the fiberglass cover for the fuel fill pipe alongside the gunwale came loose as well. After a rough crossing like that, it becomes habit to walk around the boat with a screwdriver in hand, checking for loose fittings!

Overall, I put 106.4 miles on the boat this weekend, and burned 35.4 gallons of fuel. I can-foott wait to install the fuel flow meter this weekend to see if I can-foott dial it in better for best economy. I believe if I had taken gas after the beaver island trip, I would have had more like 3.5 MPG economy, but had to "settle" for 2.99 MPG overall.

After the evening meal and prize patrols, we loaded up the boats (I had Djhancke, his son and Sportroyalwulf aboard Gambler) and headed out on Lake Charlevoix to watch the sunset and the moon and Venus rise. If you didn-foott get a chance to see the moon and Venus Saturday or Sunday night — go out and check it out tonight. Last night, Venus came within 1 degree of the moon for West Coast viewers — the two set over our Western horizon before that could happen. I-footll have photos up in the next day or two.

I have to echo comments made earlier about the dealerships (and company) that put on this event. What a great time — food was excellent, entertainment (the band they hired) was very good (all covers, but they stuck to the classics — great tunes) and I think the kids really appreciated and liked the presentation from the "bird lady" about raptors. I actually liked that too, though I was in and out of the tent during that session as I saw folks I wanted to talk to.

I was glad that Irish ordered a break in the heat — the weather was darned near perfect.

Great to see everyone again, and it was great to meet new folks too!

Backlash posted 08-08-2005 12:46 PM ET (US)     Profile for Backlash  Send Email to Backlash     
Here are a few photos of this event:

home Aside posted 08-08-2005 04:24 PM ET (US)     Profile for home Aside  Send Email to home Aside     
Hello All,
I too have to commend the Irish Boat Shop Crew & Boston Whaler for a Job Well done !
Although I've attended some other Rendezvous' this was my first owners event and I can't imagine it getting much better than that...It was nice putting names and faces together, SportRoyalWulf, Teakoil, Jerry aboard Spouter, and of course seeing other's I'd met already again....Backlash, Memory, continuouswave, Outre', Gambler, Whale Lure, Whale Lore, and on & on....what a great time....and the Weather to die for....
I feel great having made the Beaver Island Trip in my Montauk.....I knew it could be done...Also thanks to everyone for the hospitality and comradship shown to my son was his first "Whaler Get Together", he loved it and hasn't stopped talking about all the cool Whalers and when we might be able to get that Outrage 22....That a Boy!!!! He's already said he's ready for the Isle Royal Trip as well as the Florida Keys trip which was bantered around at the event
The trip ended on a questionable note for us, Case & I stopped at my parents in Lewiston, Mi for the night and had a great visit, this morning my Mother was leaving to go to water-robics and I watched, paralyzed in speechless horror as she backed their new 2005 Chrysler Town & Country Van down the driveway and in to Home Aside which I had parked on the unused access drive which Forms a "T" to their driveway...
The Skeg and Prop penetrated the tailgate to the van, I watched the Boat & Trailer lurch forward......afterward I searched and inspected high & low to see any damage to Home Aside, the tilt trip works fine,the prop spins fine, there are no visible cracks in the transom, my bow safety strap which was already pretty worn popped at the stitches as the boat lurched forward on the trailer. But I've found no damage as of yet.
The boat trailered home as usual, no problems. The only thing I can think of that might be pop up would be if the Prop shaft could have possibly been bent, I'll have to take a test cruise to determine that.....I can't believe I haven't found any damage. My father just called and the estimate on his van is $1,500.00, his insurance company said to fax estimates of any damage to Montauk, Motor, & trailer and they will cover it. I'll also post photo's when I get them to you all soon and Thanks for the Memories!!!


Plotman posted 08-08-2005 04:59 PM ET (US)     Profile for Plotman  Send Email to Plotman     

I would pull the prop and check for run-out in the shaft.

Teak Oil posted 08-08-2005 11:32 PM ET (US)     Profile for Teak Oil  Send Email to Teak Oil     
Pat that engine is toast. Tell the insurance you need an E-tec
Cicada posted 08-08-2005 11:39 PM ET (US)     Profile for Cicada  Send Email to Cicada     
I agree wholeheartedly with the event being first class. Well organized, well done and alot of fun.

We really enjoyed seeing everybody and meeting some of the people from this site. Great bunch of people. Like seeing and talking to old friends. Great time.

I especially want to thank everybody that waited for us while we tardily left the dock on Sunday. Didn't relly expect that but it made the trip something special.

We had a few screws and a couple of fillings that worked loose during the return trip from Beaver Island. Got quite a bit of air under the hull on that one. A little more sensitivity to the trim on my part would have probably made for a more comfortable ride.

All of the boats were remarkable with some fine examples of craftsmanship, creativity and care. Picked up some good ideas, tips and direction from everyone.

Sorry to hear about the accident. I hope everything is ok.

A few pictures from the trip:

Looking forward to Isle Royale.


erik selis posted 08-09-2005 03:59 AM ET (US)     Profile for erik selis  Send Email to erik selis     
Wow, what great pictures of the nicest Boston Whalers on this planet. The true elite of Classic Whalers.


Royboy posted 08-09-2005 11:36 AM ET (US)     Profile for Royboy  Send Email to Royboy     
My hat is definately off to the whole crew at Irish Marine for thier efforts to make this event such a resounding success. Karen and I had a wonderful time and wouldn't hesitate to attend another event like this one. It was really nice seeing some old freinds and meeting a few new ones. My only regret from the weekend was that there just wasn't enough time to get to know everyone better. The location was simply superb and the weather cooperated very nicely. We were even able to take Ichthus out into Lake Michigan briefly, although it was a bit lumpier than Karen considers comfortable. Lake Charlevoix is just a jewel of a lake, and all of the Yacht traffic is something to behold. Saturday's Scanvenger Hunt was a lot of fun, even when you insert a couple of hours of trolling for Lake Trout into the middle of it! No bites, and I think we might have been dead last, but a fine time was had by all.

It was great seeing Dave (Buckda), Don (Djahncke), John (Kingfish), and Jim (Sportroyalwolf) again, and finally putting faces to Jimh, Backlash, Home Aside, Cicada, LHG and Teak Oil. I really wish we had had more time to spend with all of you, but alas there was boating to be done! We averaged near 40 miles a day in Ichthus exploring this huge lake, and them topped it off with a cruise across Elk lake, Lake Skeegamog, and up the Torch River to Torch Lake on Sunday. A most excelent trip, and one I hope to repeat in the future, although perhaps in a bigger boat. It was gratifying to hear all of the nice things people had to say about Ichthus, including a comment from The Whaler Engineer about her being the "most tricked out 13 footer I've ever seen"! Thanks to everybody who made us feel like we were part of the "Gang", and tahnaks again to the fine folks at Irish and Whaler for making this all happen in such grand style. You guys are a class act!


Royboy posted 08-09-2005 02:01 PM ET (US)     Profile for Royboy  Send Email to Royboy     
A few pictures from the event:
Buckda posted 08-09-2005 02:16 PM ET (US)     Profile for Buckda  Send Email to Buckda     
jimh posted 08-09-2005 11:49 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
A common theme--not enough time to get all the things done and meet all the people. Three days of non-stop Whalering wasn't enough!
Newport_whaler posted 08-10-2005 12:44 PM ET (US)     Profile for Newport_whaler  Send Email to Newport_whaler     
Well – I can’t tell you how much I wish I was able to make it and the information and pictures that everyone provided was great. Looks and sounds like everyone had a great time and no problems-(except Pat). I look forward to going next year – paid this year but did not get to go – maybe I go next year and not have to pay- LOL.—thanks everyone I am jealous.


LHG posted 08-10-2005 01:16 PM ET (US)     Profile for LHG    
I have been trying to decide whether JimH looks better in an Evinrude cap or that VERADO visor, while sitting on "Backlash".
RFK posted 08-10-2005 10:28 PM ET (US)     Profile for RFK  Send Email to RFK     
I am envious of those who were able to be there! Great pictures! Charlevois and environs is certainly one of our favorite areas in the mid-West.

How many boats under 18ft. made the trip to Beaver Island?

home Aside posted 08-10-2005 10:53 PM ET (US)     Profile for home Aside  Send Email to home Aside     
Eight Whalers, including two Outrage 22's Outre & Spouter, two classic Outrage 18's Gambler & Cicada, One new Outrage 18, One New Outrage 24 (with the President of Boston Whaler aboard), and Two Montauk 17's made the run to Beaver Island, myself on Home Aside & Teak Oil....Something I've wanted to do since I bought her in was a great run and a great weekend


RFK posted 08-11-2005 05:46 PM ET (US)     Profile for RFK  Send Email to RFK     
Thank you and good for you. That was the one thing I wanted to do.
Cicada posted 08-11-2005 09:14 PM ET (US)     Profile for Cicada  Send Email to Cicada     

Sorry I didn't get to meet you at Charlevoix. I want to compliment you on the job you did on the 21' Outrage. First class all around.


What's the status on your motor?


home Aside posted 08-11-2005 11:06 PM ET (US)     Profile for home Aside  Send Email to home Aside     
you've got e-mail......


Royboy posted 08-12-2005 09:25 AM ET (US)     Profile for Royboy  Send Email to Royboy     
One of my goals on the trip was to get somebody to take a picture of Ichthus on the water. I know we didn't spend much time around the marina, but did anybody happen to get us on film?


Buckda posted 08-12-2005 12:47 PM ET (US)     Profile for Buckda  Send Email to Buckda     
Roy -

I only saw Ichthus on the water once during the whole trip - and that was immediately after returning from Beaver Island - I saw her in the water off the beach next to the Ferry Avenue docks. The next time I saw the boat, you had her up on the trailer and "strategically" placed her right behind the president of Whaler while he was talking under the tent that evening....

I think you were just trying to show off. :)

Sorry I didn't get any pictures though. Did you convince your wife of the need for that 22' Dauntless with the Verado?


LHG posted 08-12-2005 02:20 PM ET (US)     Profile for LHG    
Thank you, Paul. I'm sorry I missed you, but in this case, somehow I don't think our paths ever crossed. I did not even see your boat, let alone you!

My son was in charge of the 21 for the trip, and I was hiding out on the 25, in charge of my daughter's Golden, a pooch named Marlin who spent most of his time in the water.

Teak Oil posted 08-12-2005 09:53 PM ET (US)     Profile for Teak Oil  Send Email to Teak Oil     
AHA! It was Larry's granddog that shook itself dry on me Friday. I thought that dog was trying to shake sand on my Evinrude, now it all makes sense, LOL.

Seeing that beautiful dog all weekend made me miss my Shepherd, but he wouldnt have liked the ride back from Beaver Island

kingfish posted 08-12-2005 11:34 PM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
I've been holding off replying until I got some photos ready, and now I do, so here goes:

It was a phenomenal weekend - the weather couldn't have been any better, Irish Boat Shop organized as classy an event as I could imagine, and I for one never imagined I'd have the opportunity to meet and talk one on one with John Ward, the president of Boston Whaler. Once I came to the realization that he really had introduced himself as the president of Boston Whaler, I told John that groups like the gang of us that enjoy Whalering together around the Great Lakes must be kind of an enigma for the company because we just hardly ever bought new boats, and if we do, we don't buy another for a hell of a time. He laughed and said that the passion that folks like us have for Whalers was contagious, it helps drive their marketing efforts, and that ideas some of us develop and employ in our classics are observed by the factory at events like this, and some of them wind up getting incorporated in one form or another in new models.

It is always a delight to see the usual crew of the GLBWCC, and this event was no exeption; we have met on our own in Charlevoix both last summer and the summer before, usually six Whalers or so I think, but this was some kind of meet. The word was that about 35 boats showed.

I had been wanting to make the run to Beaver Island for some time (34 miles dock to dock), so this was an opportunity I enjoyed, and Katie got to have a day shopping downtown Charlevoix. That was probably a good decision all the way around, as the run back was pretty bumpy for most of the way.

It was a great opportunity not only to renew old friendships, but to develop new ones too. What a collection of nice people, driven by similar ideas of recreation and good fun. And what a venue we had in Charlevoix; it would be hard to imagine a finer background for messing around on boats.

I had opportunity to talk with the manager of Irish Boat Works late this week by phone, and he said they were still cathing their breath, and couldn't commit to whether they'd try to hold another rendezvous next year or not, but he felt everyone had a good time and had opportunity to check out a lot of Whalers offerings too, which is part of the deal, so he felt it had been a success.

I sure second that.

Here are a few more photos - (Roy, I thought I got a shot or two of Ichthus on Friday when we came back into Round Lake from Lake Michigan and were kind marfing around the food barges for a while, but I can't find a thing - sorry!)


Royboy posted 08-15-2005 08:31 AM ET (US)     Profile for Royboy  Send Email to Royboy     
I was hoping somebody would have caught her with a bone in her teeth, but perhaps next year!


Buckda posted 08-15-2005 10:57 AM ET (US)     Profile for Buckda  Send Email to Buckda     
Great photos John! Thanks for sharing.

I think the photo of you detailing Outre is a prime example of a man and his madness. :)

Great photos - if you get a moment, can you send me the one of Gambler at sunset?

Good to see you and Katie again.


kingfish posted 08-15-2005 11:09 AM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     

Will do - I've got a few more of Gambler that I didn't think made the cut, and I'll send them too.


LHG posted 08-15-2005 02:12 PM ET (US)     Profile for LHG    
Sorry I missed you, Teak. I don't think anyone missed getting wet from a nearby "shake". From Charlevoix, they headed up to Maine for a week on Sebago Lake, and now, back on the urban steets of Philadelphia, I'm told he is suffering swimming withdrawl symptoms. This morning, she found him just standing in a parking lot puddle, the nearest thing to water he could find.
jechura posted 08-15-2005 09:47 PM ET (US)     Profile for jechura  Send Email to jechura     
My first event/cruise, but not my last. Just a few more pictures.

Buckda posted 08-16-2005 12:57 PM ET (US)     Profile for Buckda  Send Email to Buckda     
Jerry -

Good photos. I especially like the one of Paul launching the 18 off that wave on the way out to Beaver Island. Suzanne appears to be hanging on for dear life.

For those living vicariously through these images - that was on the way out to Beaver Island in following seas. On the way back the waves had built a bit and we were heading into them. The boats got some real air with even some prop clearance on the way back.


Newport_whaler posted 08-17-2005 02:12 PM ET (US)     Profile for Newport_whaler  Send Email to Newport_whaler     
I would like to mention, although I was unable to go on the trip, I think the Irish Boat Shop is top notch.

When I got to the Indiana house I received a refund check for the event. Something I never expected. Need to give out props where it’s do.

Thanks to all of ya for posting pics and the narratives.


LHG posted 10-24-2005 10:24 PM ET (US)     Profile for LHG    
New photos are now available from the event, featuring


Greg and Lauren's (my daughter) 15 month old Golden Retriever.

Let's see if I can do this right?

Also, if one goes back in photobucket, there is a page for my almost completed 21 Outrage, with only the teak forward platform missing.

Tom W Clark posted 10-24-2005 10:37 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tom W Clark  Send Email to Tom W Clark     
Nice photos Larry. Wow! that's some cute...uh...doggy.
jeffs22outrage posted 10-25-2005 05:42 PM ET (US)     Profile for jeffs22outrage  Send Email to jeffs22outrage     
Larry, The 21 looks amazing. Where are you registration numbers? Also, is that a Johnson can coozie on your console?
jimh posted 10-25-2005 11:30 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
Nice pictures! Very impressed with the photo-album!

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