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Trim Tabs..electric or hydraulic?
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posted 12-16-2002 04:49 PM ET (US)
Can someone shed some light on this one for me? BW offers the 210 with hydraulic trim tabs. Other BWs are offered with electrical trim tabs. Why the difference from boat to boat and which are better? Sorry if this question has been brought up before, but you guys are the experience on these things and this trim tab stuff is new to me anyway.
posted 12-17-2002 07:54 AM ET (US)
I put Bennett Hyd. on my 22' OR. I reasearched this as best I could before spending the $$. Bennett offers a much better warranty and the the very best service of ANY company I've dealt with! Tom McGow is your contact there.
posted 12-17-2002 03:12 PM ET (US)
Bennett, Bennett, Bennett !!!!!!
posted 12-17-2002 03:31 PM ET (US)
Chuck- Approx. 1 1/2 yrs ago I put Bennett tabs on my 22'OR. I love them. Changes the boat's handling big time- coming out of the hole, heading into chop and in cross wind.
Reel is correct- Tom at Bennett is totally service oriented. Great company.
On the other side of the coin I have not heard a ton of complaints about Lencos. The upside to Lencos is that they react instantly as opposed to Bennetts. Difference is electric versus hydraulics.
One or two guys on this site can fill you in on their personal experience with the Lencos. I'm happy with my Bennett tabs- Batwings.
posted 12-17-2002 03:38 PM ET (US)
Kingfish must be on vacation!
posted 12-18-2002 01:15 PM ET (US)
Naw, I've been busy battling a really nasty blended threat trojan horse that got through our defenses on my office LAN; had me pretty busy *and* not very interested in sitting back down in front of a computer when I got home at night...all's well now as long as I don't light myself up by fantasizing about how well and long I would torture any of these nimnols who create and disseminate that kind of crap, were I to get my hands on them.
There is a *lot* of input on trim tabs here on the site that you could search and scroll through - this has really become repetitive though, and for some reason more than a little bit of unnecessary banner waving seems to be developing. I'm not sure I get it.
Anyway, I have electrics (Lencos) on my Outrage 22 and on a 25' pilothouse "other" boat, both by choice and one pair installed by me (I had the other done at the factory). There are a couple of issues of comparison that I found to be of interest to me. Others' "mileage may vary" as they say.
Lenco (which is sort of the generic for electrics as Bennett is for hydraulics) tabs are easier to install, which translates into less dollars up front if you pay someone else to do the work.
Lencos are a simpler system with less parts to the system, so there are fewer things to go wrong and fewer things to have to find room for. I did not want to give up space for a hydraulic pump on my center console boat.
Lencos operate significantly more quickly and crisply than hydraulics; I don't know that quicker (or slower) is better, but I know I like it better.
The Lencos have operated flawlessly on both boats for two seasons and I have no reason to believe they won't operate that way for many more. I have no knowledge of any better warranty on one than on the other, (there might be, I just don't know); it does seem possible to me that if something has less parts to break and/or just keeps on trucking like the Eveready bunny, a "better" or "worse" warranty is sort of a non-issue.
Bennetts have been around for a long time and because they were almost the only game in town for most of that time, they were fortunate enough to develop some huge name recognition. A lot of people have been putting them on a lot of boats for a long time and they are apparently a good product with good support.
Lencos have only been around a relatively short time, are a completely different technology (electric as opposed to hydraulic), and are trying to and succeeding in carving out their share of the market. There is at least one well-known and well respected boat manufacturer who has opted to stop installing Bennetts as a factory option and install Lencos. They are also a good product with good support.
The moral to the story is that you have choices available to you that people needing trim tabs just didn't have a few short years ago. Consider your options and go - I doubt a bad decision can be made.
posted 12-19-2002 01:31 PM ET (US)
Thanks Kingfish for that info. Your advice is sure appreciated. And thanks to everyone else who posted in reply to my question. I have no doubt both brands are excellent. But too my lack of both wrench-ability...and time. I think I'LL stick with what Whaler offers from the factory on there new 210 as an option. Besides, its under warrenty so....next it will be a question of getting used to using them properly, since the only thing I ever trimmed with before was the lawn mower and the dog clippers. Oh well...gotta learn sometime.
posted 12-23-2002 04:20 AM ET (US)
This one is suspicious.
posted 01-18-2003 09:39 PM ET (US)
suspicious of what ?
posted 01-20-2003 07:31 PM ET (US)
Chuck- Agreed, you need to get them on the boat, Bennetts or Lencos, and play with the tabs. Takes a bit of practice. Rec- go out in a light chop by yourself. Let's you practice up out of the hole- plus trimming out. Run into the chop dropping the tabs to flatten out the impact of the chop. And, of course practice using one tab in dealing with a cross wind.
The only situation I do not use my tabs is in pulling watersport stuff, slalom, tubes etc. I had one extreme reaction with the ski line not directly behind the boat with the tabs down. Never again. Rec- tabs up for watersport activities. .03 David
posted 01-24-2003 03:43 PM ET (US)
would trim tabs make my 20 outrage stay on plain at a lower speed? I find that in some sea conditions getting the boat on plan requries just a little more speed than what is comfortable so i spend the day climbing on to plain just to slow down and fall down again.
posted 01-24-2003 06:29 PM ET (US)
Larry, do you have trim tabs on your 25 and/or 18? If not, are they only necessary on the deeper vee hulls or are you getting their benefits by having twins and trimming accordingly?
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