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RioRaft posted 12-04-2003 01:53 PM ET (US)   Profile for RioRaft  
Well, I'm still in the water (mainly because the stripers fishing is great), 2003 Montauk 170, Sea Isle City NJ. The recent cold snap has the thin layer of morning ice forming around the boat. I have a few questions about having the boat in the water this time of year. Does thin layers of ice have any effect on the boat hual? What is the concensus on the motor, keep it tilted up or leave it down in the water. I live on the same block as several commercial crabers/conch fishermen, they tilt their engines down into the water during the winter, however they are all using two strokes, I have a four stroke, any suggestions as to the four stroke. The NJ State Police Whaler Twin 175 2 stroke(engines down)and Coast Guard Auxillary Whaler 225 2 stroke (engine up) also dock on my block. The Merc 90 Four Stroke has run great through the cold weather, it's actually holding up better than me, there's just nowhere to hide from the wind on a Montauk. I'll probably stay in for another two weeks or until the bite stops.


cape_rover posted 12-04-2003 03:51 PM ET (US)     Profile for cape_rover  Send Email to cape_rover     
You owners manual may say what to do. Personally I would leave it down so water does not freeze in the lower unit.

Have you had any problems starting your engine in the cold?

RioRaft posted 12-04-2003 04:50 PM ET (US)     Profile for RioRaft    
I have not had any problems at all, in fact the engine has started first time every time since I took delivery in April. I did see where it says to leave the key in the on position (but not start) for a few seconds if there is cold starting problems, but I have not had to do that. The boat and Engine have been a perfect combination for me. Running around 4000 RPMs is the most confortable. I do occassionally run wide open around 5400 and some times I simply idle for extended periods of time while fishing in a quick drift situation.

Thanks for the input, I'll check the manual. As the old saying goes "when all else fails try reading the manual".


cape_rover posted 12-04-2003 07:55 PM ET (US)     Profile for cape_rover  Send Email to cape_rover     
If you left the motor up, it might be possible to get a chunk of ice frozen on the water pump impeller.
aubv posted 12-05-2003 08:58 AM ET (US)     Profile for aubv  Send Email to aubv     

"there's just nowhere to hide from the wind on a Montauk." Can you say Carhartts, turtle and Grundens?

We used a 13' whaler as an ice breaker at our marina. At times the ice was thick enough to support the entire boat It was amazing how much punishment that boat took. So, I don't think occasional thin ice is of much concern. I would keep the motor down as it prevents water from accumulating/freezing inside the lower unit.

Tom2697 posted 12-05-2003 12:10 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tom2697  Send Email to Tom2697     
I haven't been in cold weather for a few years so take my opinion with a grain of salt...

I would do as the others suggested and leave the motor down. However, I would also not flush the motor with fresh water until after I take it out (if this is part of your routine maintenance). You will get a few extra degrees of protection by leaving the salt water in the block as opposed to the fresh water. The accumulation of salt should not hurt your motor as outboards were run this way for decades.

RioRaft posted 12-11-2003 11:53 AM ET (US)     Profile for RioRaft    
Thanks for the advise gang. Engine is down, no more flushing when frozen, Underarmor and Grundens just hit the Christmas list. Love the Icebreaker Story.


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