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Phil T

Consider fabricating in plastic. Use a heat gun to bend the corners, curves. Make a cardboard template. Transfer template to plywood mold. Lay plastic strip, heat with heat gun and press into shape. Let cool. I think the challenge will be picking which type of material you want to use. I would start...

Phil T

I just helped out an owner of a Conquest 23 from Oz who has the same inquiry. After some research and talking with Sue Lodel at Beacon/Twin Cities. She carries the round inspection ports. The rectangular Viking access hatch (which measures approximately 10"x 20" is not available. The repla...

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Alex -

Take a look at the boats at the docks around Cape Ann. Grady and Whaler cabin models are more prevalent for a reason.

I see the popularity of the new Downeaster models as more a reflection of a resurgence of vanity and conspicuous consumption.

Phil T

Here is a drawing to help you from Boston Whaler's Resources section.

https://www.bostonwhaler.com/content/dam/boston-whaler/technical/resources/170-Outrage-Hull-Assembly-Sheet-2-of-2-1999.pdf

Phil T

All owners who do not use FMT for a replacement tank, provide the existing tank or measurements they take for fabricating the new tank. There are no readily available plastic tanks that will fit the cavities of either model. Foaming in the tanks by the factory led to many failures (~20-25 years). If...

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Last comment from me. If you purchase a 60-HP engine and you can't plane, you will take the proverbial bath (financially) selling it and buying a 90-HP. If you buy a 90-HP, you will have to focus on something else because all of this is moot. Just because you have a 90-HP does not mean you have to g...

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Kent - The guys are getting distracted and not looking at the original question. A flat bottomed Jon boat and non-displacement Dory are not comparable a 16'7 cathedral hull weighing ~700-800lbs with a 100lb fiberglass cap on top. You reference an additional 1200 lbs of weight in the boat. [See Q3] 1...

Phil T

The cabin [weight] does not make much difference. Presuming the proper engine height and a stainless steel propeller I would expect the hull to plane at 12 to 14-MPH. In your engine calculations, keep in mind it is not just about top speed. You also need to factor in engine torque. From time to time...

Phil T

VTVFR is correct.

The drain under discussion is the drain for the fuel tank cavity.

Do not alter or modify the drain or plug in any way.

Phil T

Quick answer is NO.

You will need to add a backing plate to the underside of the cap and possibly a L shaped bracket to spread the load to the hull sides.

Phil T

Check with Sue Lodel, Twin Cities Marine http://www.beacontcm.com

If no joy, try https://www.boatoutfitters.com/ then https://www.fpmarine.com/Default.asp

Phil T

Fantastic!

Add me to the list for next year and I'll drive up!

Phil T

Thanks Warren.

Phil T

You need to look at other vendors.

McMaster-Carr has them in stock

https://www.mcmaster.com/gas-struts/gas-springs-7/

Phil T

The Dauntless is considered a near shore family orientated boat. Note the plethora of seating. The Montauk 190 is a standard all-around center console. While Whaler makes it tough, you really need to get onboard both. As far as I know dealers do not do demo rides, which is disappointing as there is ...

Phil T

Someone added that. Not a good sign. Typically novices add that in the misguided attempt to drain water from the foam. This is misguided. Inspect and shine a light inside. Do you see exposed foam? If damp, use a hair dryer to get surface dry, Fill with expanding foam and then seal with fiberglass an...

Phil T

The entire space between the outer skin (hull) and the inside liner (deck) is foam filled, even the gunwales.

Phil T

There is also a drain plug right at the very bottom near the keel. It was open when I got the boat and no water comes out even when I lift the bow. Any rain or deck water enters the sump in the aft starboard corner, forward of the splashwell front wall. There is also a drain from the center fuel ta...

Phil T

If you are looking for a possible alternative. I have seen the two seats replaced with rod back cushions and a full seat cushion from Andersons. Ask Tena to quote you. Could be less and OEM quality. Come to think of it, they might offer the seat in its entirety. http://www.amfg.us

Phil T

Boston Whaler updates its warranties yearly.

Here is the latest version online from 2020. It is 5 pages long.

https://www.bostonwhaler.com/content/dam/boston-whaler/technical/resources/Boston-Whaler-Domestic-Warranty-MY2020.pdf

- edit: corrected link

Phil T

I would also watch pricing of the current models when the "new" models come out. I would be wary of any promises of integration with Navonics . EDIT - NAVICO, This type of acquisition is not without serious hiccups. Give consideration to Lowrance. (Edit) Pre-Aquisition, they appear to be m...

Phil T

Given the ability to display engine data on the plotter, I recommend you purchase a plotter with the largest size possible for the dash. I would estimate that to be in the 10-12 inch screen size. Review the full dimensions as some units have thick bezels and others are less so.

Phil T

The search feature overlooks 2 character/numbers. Adding a ' to the 13 gives you these results:

https://continuouswave.com/forum/search.php?keywords=Dauntless+13%27

Phil T

OEM replacement would be Anderson's in Florida.
http://www.amfg.us

If the foundations are in good shape, have a local shop rebuild with foam and vinyl.

Sue Lodel at Twin Cities may have a recommendation on a shop in the WI/MN area.
http://www.beacontcm.com

Phil T

An Enertia 14 x 19 propeller is a very good choice.

Phil T

I doubt anyone here will be able to give you productive advice. While it is unfortunate you are having problems with your new-to-you boat, know that Doug and David Zammit at Lockeman's are truly respected for their factory certified expertise and customer service. They are known as one of the Evinru...

Phil T

Most of the fasteners are #6 x 1-1/2" or #8 - 1-1/2" stainless oval head phillps

Phil T

I really shouldn't have done it but here you go. I am not going to install them for you. Navigation lamps, Perko all around light. - chrome over bronze. https://www.nausetmarine.com/boston-whaler-parts/lighting-and-electrical/light-assemblies/1035237-light-pole/ Stern light support lower https://www...

Phil T

Bob - What is your boat's height on your trailer?

My Outrage 17 requires me to remove the console rail and windscreen to clear the door.

No way a T-Top is gonna clear it.

Phil T

Know that your tank has a "capacity" of 56 gallons, usable capacity is less. Fuel gauges are fickle, each has a personality. "1/4 means X gallons, 1/2 = Y, etc. Have you determined what your X, Y and ETC? I go by the gauge [indication, and], never by the shut-off. The tank does not ne...

Phil T

While a majority of owners recommend paying a professional to soda or shell blast the paint off, there are a few non-toxic removal products. I recently used Smart Strip to remove very old bottom paint with good results. It is still a LOT of work. I did a test on a small area and found applying a thi...

Phil T

Given the structural foam construction of all Boston Whalers, modifying a hull to include a dive door is not feasible, practical or suggested. You can't just cut the gunwale out of the side of the boat. Extensive structural modifications are required to the inner and outer fiberglass layers. Only a ...

Phil T

Now that you have the boat on the trailer, it is time for final adjustments. Specifically: Bunk placement - Ensure bunks are not on a chine. Transom location - position in relation to the aft cross member, or if an I beam trailer the rear bunks. Tongue Weight - Measure the tongue weight at the ball ...

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The OptiMax 115 outboard has a dry weight of 375-lbs. While this is significcantly more weight than the typical 90-HP or 70-HP two-stroke-power-cycle engine installed when the hull was new, it is NOT excessive. The Honda BF90 engine weighed in at over 400-lbs. If the drain tubes, inside and outside....

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What is the waterline when the boat is empty of people at rest?

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Any bow damage?

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How many hours on the engine? Used boat prices are in stupid territory due to high demand. Generally double of what they were pre-covid. Comps - 2004 model in MD for $30K. Sitting for weeks. 2004 model, 345 hrs in SC $34.9 2007 model in NJ $29 K Here are the listings - https://www.boattrader.com/boa...

Phil T

In today's market a Dauntless 160 without motor would be purchased for $5,000.

Finding a new or a used outboard and a trailer will be what requires a little bit of work and a whole lot of patience.

Phil T

Moisture meters are not helpful for assessing water intrusion on a Boston Whaler. One method of investigation is to remove the through hulls and the transom cover trim, engine bolt holes and stern eyes. Observe any residue marks. Inserting paper towels into the open drain holes. If not "wet&quo...

Phil T

There are six Outrage models in 1998. Which one?

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Thanks Ward.

Phil T

Sorry to say, there aren't drawings for trailer setup.

Set the bunks where you think and plan to adjust them. The bow stop roller should be adjusted to be touching the top of the boat's bow eye.

I would bring all the tools necessary plus a jack, straps, and blocking to adjust onsite.

Phil T

There is no transom maximum weight rating for this hull. Whaler did not stipulate them on many models of that era.

Fellow Outrage 19 II owners have installed every brand of 150-HP four-stroke-power-cycle engine without concern for engine weight.

Phil T

J -

For any engine you select, you will want the motor to be installed at least 2 holes up (top bolt in the 3rd hole down from the top) and select a stern lifting stainless steel prop.

When you select the engine, check back here for prop recommendations.

Phil T

Short answer: a 70-HP engine on a 17-footer is great for running solo. When a 17-footer is loaded as you described, the boat can do 30-MPH if rigged right--but may be sluggish. A 140-HP engine is doable. Some have done 150 to 200-HP. You will want the battery in the console and when loaded, have hea...

Phil T

Aside: While I can't speak to the box anchor, I can say the poor results of the Danforth is most likely due to insufficient chain. The anchor will set more effectively with 4 to 6-feet of chain.

Phil T

The console of a Montauk 170 does not contain particle board as a backing material. Boston Whaler uses either plywood or several versions of plastic board using the names "whaler board" or "phenolic". I suggest you review the owners manual and the wood locating diagram for the sp...

Phil T

The DF150 is not on the recommended list by many whaler veterans due to its weight. The DF140a is the recommended engine. As for the Mercury 150 FourStroke or Mercury Pro XS, these have received postiive reviews from whaler owners who installed them for a repower. As for engine availability, it vari...

Phil T

Any battery in the console should be installed in a battery box and in such a way that it is resting on the deck. A square of Dri-Dek can be placed under the battery case to allow water to drain.

By recessing the battery(s) onto the floor, the sparse storage area in the console is preserved.

Phil T

Almost all the original wood on the classic Montauk 17 was teak.

The bottom board on the RPS was mahogany.

It was, and should be, oiled.

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