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whalersman posted 05-21-2003 05:10 PM ET (US)   Profile for whalersman   Send Email to whalersman  
I would like to share a little information here on Deck Plates for the Outrage and probably Revenge, and other models.

Some litterature I have that is dated 11/85 states that my Outrage should have PYHI Deck Plates. My Outrage 18 was built in June of 1985 and has Beckson Deck Plates.... I talked to Beckson about this and they said that in order to have their Beckson Deck Plates used on Whalers they would need to create the "Thin" ring for the 6" Deck Plates so it would fit the existing hole that Whaler already had in their Floor. Once Beckson did this, Whaler started using the Beckson Deck Plates on many of their Hulls. (maybe not in all the Hulls, but most?)

The custom color that Whaler ordered from Beckson was "Khaki", however at this time they do not offer the Khaki color in the 8" standard or the 6" Thin ring. They do make the "Beige" color which they said is very close to Khaki and is available in all 3 models Whaler used.

1. 8" standard ring, Dimple Non-Skid center, Beige
2. 6" Thin ring, Dimple Non-Skid center, Beige
3. 6" Thin ring, Clear center, Beige (Obviously this one is for the Fuel Gauge.

I am assuming that the Beckson Plates will fit in the same hole as the older PYHI and would like some input from anyone that has done this. As far as I know from researching this forum, the PYHI Deck Plates are no longer available in the correct size or configuration.

The good news is that Beckson has just made a new run of all 3 Deck Pltates listed above in the Beige color. I just purchased all the replacement Beckson Plates for my Outrage in the Beige color.. It is hard to tell how close this color is to the Khaki as these new plates are obviously NEW... The originals are 18 years old, faded, yellowed, and dirty.... Obviously the new ones should look new and of course the deck of the boat is not... I will probably be changing out these Deck Plates sometime this coming winter.

Beckson Marine
www.beckson.com/prydp.html
DP83-N, 8", Pry, Dimple, Beige = $24.50
DP63TN, 6", Pry, Thin, Dimple, Beige = $14.95
DP61TN-C, 6" Pry, Thin, Beige, Clear = $18.50

Or contact:
Matt Reed
mreed@beckson.com

andygere posted 05-21-2003 05:41 PM ET (US)     Profile for andygere  Send Email to andygere     
Wow, great post. I'm considering ordering a set as spares, to ensure that I'll have them when they need replacement. At least one of mine is a bit worn.
Tom W Clark posted 11-20-2003 12:19 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tom W Clark  Send Email to Tom W Clark     
Joe,

In reviewing this thread while searching for some information I realized you pose a question I know the answer to: Beckson plates will NOT fit the holes that the PYHI plates went into. They are slightly different sizes and are not interchangeable.

It seems the PYHI plates may still be available (under the Bomar brand name)

Hyperlink

jimh posted 11-21-2003 08:36 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
Tom--Very strong work on that link. Thanks.
whalersman posted 11-21-2003 11:46 PM ET (US)     Profile for whalersman  Send Email to whalersman     
Tom,

Funny, but the day before you posted this, I was looking through my newly arrived Hamilton Marine Catalog... Low and behold, I saw BOWMAR/PYHI Deck Plates...

I'm sure this will help out some of those people with PYHI deck plates even though they may not be available in the same original Whaler color. I also don't see the clear plate for the gas gauge, but they may have them..

Thanks for the info on the non-interchangability.....

Joe

whalersman posted 11-22-2003 02:06 AM ET (US)     Profile for whalersman  Send Email to whalersman     
jimh,

I didn't mean to get in the way of Tom's thread here...

Thanks

vkr posted 11-23-2003 09:40 PM ET (US)     Profile for vkr  Send Email to vkr     
Whalersman, coincidently I removed the deck plates on my 1986 Outrage 18 today to clean them up for winter. I simply removed the o-rings, cleaned the o-ring groove on the deck plate and the mating deck ring. I also cleaned the o-rings, lubed them with silicon plumbers lube, and replaced them in the deck plate.
The o-rings were a bit cracked and dry. Any chance you know whether Beckson sells replacement o-rings for the deckplates on the Outrage? Thanks
whalersman posted 11-23-2003 11:20 PM ET (US)     Profile for whalersman  Send Email to whalersman     
Good question vkr...

I did not ask Beckson that question when I talked to Matt Reed.
I don't see any reason they wouldn't but then I guess someone will have to call or email...

If you decide to call or email him, would you please let us know... I will do the same when I get a chance. I wouldn't mind have some new 0-ring also....

Question for you....
How are the Rivets in your Deck Plates holding up???
Are any of them loose?
How is the condition of the Silicone Sealant around the outside of the Deck Plate???

I had a few loose Rivets and the Silicone was also coming loose.
Although I have new Deck Plates, I am still trying to save the original ones.. I drilled out the old Rivets and pulled out 1 of the 6" Deck plates.. Cleaned it up and put on new silicone and instead of using Rivets, I replaced them with #6 stainless steel screws per Beckson installation instructions...
Seems to work and looks good too.

Joe

vkr posted 11-25-2003 12:50 PM ET (US)     Profile for vkr  Send Email to vkr     
I have an e-mail into Matt at Beckson. I'll let you know what I hear.
In response to your questions, my rivets appear to be fine and tight. In addition, the sealant is ok with no signs of cracking. However, my boat spent most of its life in the Michigan area. Short summers and therefore limited sun exposure etc..
It's amazing how nice these deckplates perform once you remove them clean them up and sparingly lube with some plumbers silicon grease. In fact, you don't even need a blade to pull them.
jimh posted 11-29-2003 10:17 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
A tip of the hat to Joe (whalersman) for providing this concise framing of the deck plate problem. Articles with high information content like this are greatly appreciated!
whalersman posted 11-29-2003 01:42 PM ET (US)     Profile for whalersman  Send Email to whalersman     
With help from vkr and rayl, the O-rings are available from Beckson.

www.beckson.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=B&Category_Code=DH

$2.80 for the 6 inch O-ring
$3.00 for the 8 inch O-ring

Thanks for the help everyone...

jimh,
Those long and strong urls can be a pain in the neck for you. Is there anyway we can shorten these longer urls?? Thanks.....

andygere posted 02-22-2005 01:18 PM ET (US)     Profile for andygere  Send Email to andygere     
I just ordered a few replacements for my 1989 Outrage 22 Cuddy. The solid/dimple pry out 6" DP63TK is $15.50, and the clear pry out 6" DP61TK-C is $18.50. A replacement gasket for the 8' pry out is still $3.00.

I will be reinstalling with screws, since the OEM rivits were not well seated, and a few of the holes broke through the side of the circular opening. I've repaired them with resin/chopped glass and will rotate slightly and redrill. Thanks to Joe for this excellent reference.

Joe Kriz posted 02-22-2005 02:24 PM ET (US)     Profile for Joe Kriz  Send Email to Joe Kriz     
Andy,

I hope you saw my revised article on these Deck Plates?

http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum6/HTML/000486.html

Beckson made a special run on the correct color for Boston Whaler Deck Plates. "Khaki".

Prior to this special run, the beige or tan, was the closest color you could get.

I purchased 2 full sets of the Khaki colored ones. Two 6" Dimple Thin Ring, One 6" clear Thin Ring, Two 8" Dimple Standard Ring are needed for one Outrage 18'.

Not sure exactly how many are needed for the 22'.

If you didn't order the Khaki color, call them back and ask them if they still have any left.

I also used screws in mine instead of the rivets. Beckson recommends using screws right on their package.

Joe Kriz posted 02-22-2005 02:27 PM ET (US)     Profile for Joe Kriz  Send Email to Joe Kriz     
I just re-read your part numbers.

The "D" stand for Dimple
The "P" stands for Pry Out
The "T" stands for Thin Ring
The "K" stands for Khaki color
The "C" stands for Clear

You did good Andy....

Joe

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