The Suzuki DF140A seems to be a popular choice for re-powering.
Q1: is there a reason not to get the Suzuki 140 for a 17 OUTRAGE II?
Q2: is there a 115-HP that will give comparable performance to the current engine?
Q3: is a DF140BG ruled out due to weight?
Q4: what do I do with the old engine?
Q5: do dealers take in old engines on trade?
Q6: is selling a used outboard engine a giant pain?
Q7: with [new] 115-HP [four-stroke-power-cycle] engines closer [in weight] to the original two-stroke-power-cycle 115-HP, is a new engine lighter [than a DF140A] a better decision.
MANY OTHER OBSERVATIONS
With the current 115-HP engine on the 17 OUTRAGE II, the acceleration onto plane is quick; there a short-duration steep bow rise, then the boat blasts off.
The bow of the boat will oscillate up and down when on plane in flat water. By changing power and trim the oscillation can be stopped. This oscillation is the only negative aspect of the boat.
The 17 OUTRAGE II hull is very sensitive to weight. I can overcome changes in weight with trim.
The 17 OUTRAGE II hull rides better with more than four people people compared to with just four people because the additional people must move toward the bow. When four people go out, the rear seats are always used due to the comfortable ride, but the people sitting there complain about the engine noise.
The 17 OUTRAGE II hul shines in chop and the bow does not oscillate. The hull can take more than I can.
My boating area is the middle Chesapeake Bay.
REPOWERING GOALS IN ORDER
- reliability
- quiet running
- fuel economy
Were Evinrude was still around I probably would go with them.
Suzuki and Yamaha dealers are close.
I can trailer it for Mercury service.
Where I’m located, the vast majority of boats are Suzuki-powered followed by Yamaha. The local watermen use both of those brands for crazy amounts of hours; some of the boats look barely seaworthy but have nice engines.
[Somewhere unspecified a reference is made to a thread called] "the underpowered DF140."
The emission plate on 2020 DF140 shows a power 103.0 kW, and mass of 179 to 205 kg. The 205-kg weight caught me off guard.
I believe the upper [transom] weight limit [for a 17 OUTRAGE II] is around 420 lbs. I understood the Suzuki DF140A to be around 405-lbs, but now I am not so sure having seen that plate on an actual engine.
I’ve seen weights for the Evinrude 115 engine on the boat now between 300-lbs and 330-lbs, and the Ocean Pro 150 weight between 375-lbs and 395-lbs. On my engine it says 85.8 kW and 152 kg (335 lbs).
Going heavier than the maximum-rated-150 weight is a bit concerning.
I’m not sure how large the oil tank is or what that adds in weight.
With [only a 115-HP four-stroke-power-cycle engine] I suspect I’ll be disappointed with the acceleration onto plane from a standing start.
Do either the Mercury ProXS-CT or Yamaha 115 SHO VMAX really delivery significant improvements over their standard 115?
I don’t feel the need to go faster than 38-MPH. but don’t want to go slower with a new engine. I usually cruise between 22-MPH and 26-MPH, depending on the conditions and weight distribution in the boat.
The current engine runs well so I can use it while waiting for a new motor.
I want a higher degree of confidence in the engine than I have with the current one so I can take longer trips with peace of mind. Breaking down can put a serious dent in enthusiasm for boating.
I’m not eager to put more money in the currentengine, when it runs it inspires awe. But it is just old. I’d like a decade or more of turn-the-key and go with only routine maintenance.
Once a season I may pull a tube around. The typical load is two to four people, several times a season with 6 or 7 people.
The 17 OUTRAGE II boat is in fantastic condition, a few craze lines, not many, I don’t feel any need to upgrade or upsize.
I got a verbal quote of $11,500 for a DF140A in black, installed with gauges and controls, but with a five to six month wait and a $1,000 deposit. I’ll be in for more than $11,500 in the end but it sounded reasonable to me.
I’m in no rush.
The 17 Outrage II lives on a trailer at one-mile distance from the marina.
I also own a 110 SPORT. The 110 SPORT sits at a dock in very shallow water. I use it for fishing.
To not have the 17 OUTRAGE II in peak season as it gets repowered isn’t a concern.
My current engine would be a good choice for someone who doesn’t mind working on engines.