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kent posted 05-17-2000 11:40 AM ET (US)
I posted this DUMB question a while ago on another thread and didn't get any replies. So I asked the local Whaler dealer ( the same guys that tried to sell me a LOGIC) the question, and guess what, they didn't know the answer! So forgive me, but I am asking it again here. A response would be very much appreciated!
The DUMB question is this. I am new to Whalers and have a '60 something 13 with the notched transom and the straight motorwell bulkhead. There are 2 drain holes at the stern of the boat, one in the transom and one in the motorwell. I have another boat (not a Whaler) that has drain holes in the motorwell, but they are quite high on the transom and the motorwell is self bailing, not requiring any plugs. The Whaler is different though, in that the drain in the transom that would drain the motorwell is very low on the transom. Can anyone tell me the correct placement of drain plugs in this boat? Does the plug go in the front hole, the back hole, or both holes? ( I know what some of you guys are probably thinking, DON'T go there!!) Larry, would you have an old 13 owners manual that would give Whaler's recommendations?
dave_maggio posted 05-17-2000 01:25 PM ET (US)
Kent, as I recall and my Dad sold the "old" 13 many years ago the plug goes in the front hole only. Water in the motor well will filter in and out and drain clear when you are running.
-Dave
kent posted 05-18-2000 01:05 PM ET (US)
Thanks for the reply, Dave.
whalernut posted 05-18-2000 09:00 PM ET (US)
Kent, I had and sold a 1971 `13 Sport Whaler that I truly loved, but moving up to a `17 Currituck. Anyway, I kept both plugs in on calm days-no water got in the boat and left the transom plug out on choppy days-so water could escape. I use to let about a 6-12 inches of water in the motor well when fishing and used it as a live well! Every hour I would drain and add new water, it worked like a charm. Enjoy you`re Sea-Sled Whaler, the best design in the world! Regards-JACK.
kent posted 05-18-2000 11:24 PM ET (US)
Jack, that's great!! I love your idea about about using the motorwell as a livewell. Only a true fisherman could come up with an innovation like that! I am definitely going to give it a try. Thanks.
lhg posted 05-19-2000 12:07 AM ET (US)
Jack: Regarding the Hickman Sea Sled design, it's possible that Fisher & Hunt would not like their design for the original 13' Whaler being called a "Sea Sled". Actually, never in any of the early advertizing did they ever make such a reference. Hickman never approved of the design of the 13' Whaler, and refused to be a part of it. The following is a quotation from an article entitled "How the Whaler got it's Name":
When initially hired to explore a foam filled sandwich panel boat, Hunt commented:
"Furthermore, Hunt said, I think the Hickman Sea Sled has never been properly exploited, and I like to design you a Sea Sled hull"
Article continues:
"In the cold light of Fall, the weaknesses (of the Sea sled hull) became apparent.
Fisher added "it was unpleasant and not good."
Continuing:
"The story of Albert Hickman and his Sea Sled design is a piece of boating history that deserves to be retold - a tale of frustration and lack of acceptance of a design whose time simply had not come, of a Nova Scotian innovator who spent the better part of his life in pursuit of a dream that was killed by government bureaucracy and his own stubbornness as much as anything else. Except that the dream did live on - in the Boston Whaler of Dick Fisher & Ray Hunt and the tri-hulls of Dick Cole, all of whom took off from where Hickman stopped.
It is sufficient to say that Hunt and Fisher bypassed Hickman after Fisher had visited Hickman in Boston and decided that the sea sled inventor had nothing to offer, Hickman being fully satisfied that his sea sled was the only way to go."
whalernut posted 05-21-2000 06:37 PM ET (US)
Thank you Larry, I didn`t know Hickman didn`t agree with Hunt and Fisher and somewhat vica-versa. Is there another term for the pre-76` Whaler hull that would be more correct? Kent, the full-length motor well and the old hull design were in my opinion the best ever. I just picked up my new(new to me) 1975 `17 Currituck. This has everything I want in a fishing boat. Open side console design, side rails for rod holders, the old hull design(stable as hell!) and prit` neer non-glare Dessert Tan gelcoat. I am going to put a bow chock on it, since the original buyer didn`t get that. It has the half motor well, wish it had the full length motor well. Oh well! Enjoy you`re new Livewell! Good luck Kent and use that Livewell! Regards-JACK.
kent posted 05-22-2000 01:51 AM ET (US)
Good to hear that you made it back home, Jack. How did the trip go? Any trailer trouble?
whalernut posted 05-22-2000 04:14 PM ET (US)
Kent, the trip went smooth. I found out when I got there that the trailer has new 12in. rims with new tires! I drove back at 60mph with no problems. The original Fulton trailer is built like a tank-quality, not like the new ones. I am going fishing in it for the first time over the holiday weekend-I can`t stand the wait! Smallmouth Bass are hitting like crazy in Lake Erie! Lale Erie is known for their amount and size of Smalllmouth Bass. I just wish my Whaler had the full length motor well for a livewell. Good luck with you`re Whaler Kent, Regards-JACK.

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Author	Topic: Drain holes and plugs
kent	posted 05-17-2000 11:40 AM ET (US) I posted this DUMB question a while ago on another thread and didn't get any replies. So I asked the local Whaler dealer ( the same guys that tried to sell me a LOGIC) the question, and guess what, they didn't know the answer! So forgive me, but I am asking it again here. A response would be very much appreciated! The DUMB question is this. I am new to Whalers and have a '60 something 13 with the notched transom and the straight motorwell bulkhead. There are 2 drain holes at the stern of the boat, one in the transom and one in the motorwell. I have another boat (not a Whaler) that has drain holes in the motorwell, but they are quite high on the transom and the motorwell is self bailing, not requiring any plugs. The Whaler is different though, in that the drain in the transom that would drain the motorwell is very low on the transom. Can anyone tell me the correct placement of drain plugs in this boat? Does the plug go in the front hole, the back hole, or both holes? ( I know what some of you guys are probably thinking, DON'T go there!!) Larry, would you have an old 13 owners manual that would give Whaler's recommendations?
dave_maggio	posted 05-17-2000 01:25 PM ET (US) Kent, as I recall and my Dad sold the "old" 13 many years ago the plug goes in the front hole only. Water in the motor well will filter in and out and drain clear when you are running. -Dave
kent	posted 05-18-2000 01:05 PM ET (US) Thanks for the reply, Dave.
whalernut	posted 05-18-2000 09:00 PM ET (US) Kent, I had and sold a 1971 `13 Sport Whaler that I truly loved, but moving up to a `17 Currituck. Anyway, I kept both plugs in on calm days-no water got in the boat and left the transom plug out on choppy days-so water could escape. I use to let about a 6-12 inches of water in the motor well when fishing and used it as a live well! Every hour I would drain and add new water, it worked like a charm. Enjoy you`re Sea-Sled Whaler, the best design in the world! Regards-JACK.
kent	posted 05-18-2000 11:24 PM ET (US) Jack, that's great!! I love your idea about about using the motorwell as a livewell. Only a true fisherman could come up with an innovation like that! I am definitely going to give it a try. Thanks.
lhg	posted 05-19-2000 12:07 AM ET (US) Jack: Regarding the Hickman Sea Sled design, it's possible that Fisher & Hunt would not like their design for the original 13' Whaler being called a "Sea Sled". Actually, never in any of the early advertizing did they ever make such a reference. Hickman never approved of the design of the 13' Whaler, and refused to be a part of it. The following is a quotation from an article entitled "How the Whaler got it's Name": When initially hired to explore a foam filled sandwich panel boat, Hunt commented: "Furthermore, Hunt said, I think the Hickman Sea Sled has never been properly exploited, and I like to design you a Sea Sled hull" Article continues: "In the cold light of Fall, the weaknesses (of the Sea sled hull) became apparent. Fisher added "it was unpleasant and not good." Continuing: "The story of Albert Hickman and his Sea Sled design is a piece of boating history that deserves to be retold - a tale of frustration and lack of acceptance of a design whose time simply had not come, of a Nova Scotian innovator who spent the better part of his life in pursuit of a dream that was killed by government bureaucracy and his own stubbornness as much as anything else. Except that the dream did live on - in the Boston Whaler of Dick Fisher & Ray Hunt and the tri-hulls of Dick Cole, all of whom took off from where Hickman stopped. It is sufficient to say that Hunt and Fisher bypassed Hickman after Fisher had visited Hickman in Boston and decided that the sea sled inventor had nothing to offer, Hickman being fully satisfied that his sea sled was the only way to go."
whalernut	posted 05-21-2000 06:37 PM ET (US) Thank you Larry, I didn`t know Hickman didn`t agree with Hunt and Fisher and somewhat vica-versa. Is there another term for the pre-76` Whaler hull that would be more correct? Kent, the full-length motor well and the old hull design were in my opinion the best ever. I just picked up my new(new to me) 1975 `17 Currituck. This has everything I want in a fishing boat. Open side console design, side rails for rod holders, the old hull design(stable as hell!) and prit` neer non-glare Dessert Tan gelcoat. I am going to put a bow chock on it, since the original buyer didn`t get that. It has the half motor well, wish it had the full length motor well. Oh well! Enjoy you`re new Livewell! Good luck Kent and use that Livewell! Regards-JACK.
kent	posted 05-22-2000 01:51 AM ET (US) Good to hear that you made it back home, Jack. How did the trip go? Any trailer trouble?
whalernut	posted 05-22-2000 04:14 PM ET (US) Kent, the trip went smooth. I found out when I got there that the trailer has new 12in. rims with new tires! I drove back at 60mph with no problems. The original Fulton trailer is built like a tank-quality, not like the new ones. I am going fishing in it for the first time over the holiday weekend-I can`t stand the wait! Smallmouth Bass are hitting like crazy in Lake Erie! Lale Erie is known for their amount and size of Smalllmouth Bass. I just wish my Whaler had the full length motor well for a livewell. Good luck with you`re Whaler Kent, Regards-JACK.