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ContinuousWave Whaler Moderated Discussion Areas ContinuousWave: The Whaler GAM or General Area Bearcat Outboard Reference Article
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Author | Topic: Bearcat Outboard Reference Article |
Tom W Clark |
posted 03-24-2001 12:41 AM ET (US)
jimh--Nice job [on the Reference section article] on this subject! I would encourage everybody to visit Scott Stewart's Homelite site as well [but that site is now a dead link; see alternative links below--jimh] I can remember seeing one of these motors back in the 70's on a 16' Whaler and thinking it was just the goofiest thing, but the fact is: it was way ahead of its time. I have toyed with the idea of finding an old Homelite or Bearcat and restoring it but now that I know about Ed Ewing @ Economy 4 Cycle Marine, I may just go buy one from him. Jim, are you sure he said only $1800?! |
jimh |
posted 03-24-2001 08:50 AM ET (US)
Yes, Ed sells them for $1,800, and less if you have one to trade in. I think he encourages trade-in's because he likes to keep re-cycling these engines. If you have a Homelite/Bearcat to trade in he will give you a "core return" credit. Contact information for Economy 4 Cycle Marine is at the end of the article: http://continuouswave.com/whaler/reference/bearcat.html I was surprised to find how much information there was available on the Crosley engine, yet how little there was on the Homelite or Bearcat except for Scott's website, which I have referenced with some hyperlinks. As a boy I recall my father being involved with a radio amateur's club that owned a war surplus generator. It was powered by a small four-cylinder engine. I am sure, now, that it must have been a Crosley COBRA gen-set. We used it every June during "Field Day". |
enn |
posted 03-24-2001 12:18 PM ET (US)
BearCat also made a 85-HP version. Have any of you seen that outboard? I had two Homelite and BearCat engines but both died from corosion in the engine block, The cast iron block cannot withstand salt water. Bisides that it was a fine engine. On fresh water lakes it will perform fine. |
Macman |
posted 03-24-2001 01:59 PM ET (US)
I am very impressed with the depth of information in this newest article. Excellent job! |
jimh |
posted 03-24-2001 03:50 PM ET (US)
I think that 85-HP model is rare, even among devotees of Bearcats. It was only made for two years. It was based on an 1100-cc Coventry Climax auto block, I believe. As for salt water causing corrosion of the cast iron block: what stops salt water from corroding aluminum blocks? |
enn |
posted 03-24-2001 04:49 PM ET (US)
Aluminium blocks are much more resistent to salt water corosion I have newer experienced any of my alu OB that had a hole in the cyl.block because of corrosion. My Homelites often gave a lot of rusty water when starting them up - and after 5 years the top cylinder was coroded so much that cooling water could enter the cumbustion chamber - only cure was a new block. |
whalernut |
posted 03-25-2001 11:52 AM ET (US)
Man, those Bearcats are cool looking! I want one for my 16 Currituck. Does anyone know if my older (1975) OMC controls will work with these engines? I like the one without the winged hood better for looks, but that is trivial. Does the Bearcat have a spin-on oil-Filter? Any info would be greatfully appreciated! Regards-Jack Graner. |
enn |
posted 03-25-2001 04:07 PM ET (US)
Some of the Homelite an dBearcat engines had a spin on oil filter. Check out Scott`s homepage (on page 2 you can read which types that had the "spin on filter") The Homelite control has a horn oil and high temp lamp. I don't know if it is possible to use a OMC control box with a Homelite or Bearcat. I recall the electrical connection on the engine side was a simple terminal you put the wire into and turned a screw for each wire. |
whalernut |
posted 03-25-2001 04:09 PM ET (US)
I`ll check inot it, I would think with a filter it would run better and last longer. |
jimh |
posted 03-26-2001 09:02 AM ET (US)
When Homelite made the engines there was an oil filter, but Fisher Pierce removed it. |
enn |
posted 03-26-2001 12:03 PM ET (US)
Does Ed have a web side or an e-mail adress? [Yes--the website information is in the article that is the topic of this discussion. It might be helpful to read the article before joining a discussion about the article--jimh] I recall my Homelite and Bearcat engine getting a lot of attention in habours in the begining of the 1980`s as nobody had ever seen a 4 stoke that size. The smooth runing and idling of the Homelite caught a lot of attention |
RMS |
posted 03-27-2001 09:36 AM ET (US)
If any one is interested, I happened across an ad in the local New Jersey paper for a 55-HP Homelite for $500. Condition and year are not stated. |
lhg |
posted 03-29-2001 10:49 PM ET (US)
Regarding the salt water corrosion in the block, I wonder what the difference is in the other cast-iron automotive blocks being used in the Mercruiser or Chevy 350 and 454 sterndrives? Even back in 1965 there were cast iron inboard engines being run in salt water. Must be the particular alloys being used. Maybe some sort of galvanic reaction was occuring between dissimiliar metals. |
enn |
posted 03-30-2001 02:41 PM ET (US)
Corosion is well known in raw water cooled engines - the Homelite block is however a lighter and thinner construction than most inboard engines. There are no zincs to protest against galvanic corosion on the Bearcat and Homelite engines, as far as I recall, but adding some may be a good idea. I recently made an overhaul of a Chevrolet 350 that was raw water cooled, and it had corosion in the cooling jacket, too. It comes in any raw cooled engine runing in saltwater, only some metals are less exposed than others. |
A Li Volsi |
posted 04-02-2001 02:31 PM ET (US)
RMS-thanks for the tip on the homelite for sale in NJ. There were two for $500. Both were in very good shape, one a 1964 and the other a 1971 or 1972. |
RMS |
posted 04-02-2001 04:15 PM ET (US)
A Li Volsi, you're quite welcome. Did you buy the engines, or go see them? Two for $500 sounds like a deal. |
A Li Volsi |
posted 04-03-2001 09:06 AM ET (US)
I bought both, which included the stands, two extra props, the original safety controls for each and two gas tanks! Oh, and all of the original paper work-parts list, owner manuals etc. |
Ed Z |
posted 02-16-2002 05:23 AM ET (US)
I had the 55hp Bearcat on a 17 Whaler. I got hold of one of the 85-HP Bearcats and have been very happy. They are very hard to find. I know of only seven in the USA. Only three of these are currently in running condition. The Coventry Climax FWB 1498-cc engine was used in a few sports cars during the era. This makes it possible to obtain parts for the power head. I rebuilt mine from the ground up: bearings, rings, valves, guides, timing chain, and seals. I should be set for years to come. These engines still out do the new four-cycle engines. They are close to 100-lbs lighter, idle at 600-RPM, and can run for 40 minutes trolling on a quart of gas. I went sking and tubing and then fishing for the whole day and used only three gallons of gas. |
Steve Leone |
posted 02-16-2002 02:31 PM ET (US)
whalernut, the 55-HP Homlite shifts opposite. You will need aftermarket or Homelite controls and cable end adapters. I have a Homelite control box if your interested. I bought a 55-HP from Ed Ewing a couple of years ago. I had to bring it back because it failed in a week. He gave me another, but I had to travel 300 miles to get it straight. It was my opinion the re-done electrical work was very poor. I have a lot of experience rigging these motors to Boston WHale rboats and can send pictures. |
triblet |
posted 02-17-2002 09:59 AM ET (US)
Aluminum doesn't corrode like iron or steel because the outlayer of corrosion protects the metal under it, unlike rust, which actually encourages the metal beneath to corrode through some (electrolytic) effect. There are some steels that will do this also. Corten comes to mind. IBM used to have a building in Bethesda MD made of it that was called "the rusty bucket". I suspect it got sold to Loral with Federal Systems division and now has a Lockheed-Martin sign on it. Chuck |
seahorse |
posted 04-11-2015 03:26 PM ET (US)
This is a very old thread to be resurrected but anyone wanting a current internet address for parts and info, go to |
jimh |
posted 04-12-2015 09:10 AM ET (US)
There is mention of and a hyperlink to the same dealer, his website, and the same URL in the original article posted 14-years ago as has just been appended to the end of this 14-year-old thread. [However in a review of this thread in 2021 I found that domain is no longer active. An archive may be found on the Web.Archive.Org website. The other website mentioned above (that was originally hosted by AOL.COM as an AOL-user homepage) with information about Homelite engines is no longer available. Some portions of that information are preserved by the WEB.ARCHIVE.ORG website. See
and http://web.archive.org/web/20040602233858/http://members.aol.com/ home4cycle/index.html Please note the CONTINUOUSWAVE website has been on-line since c.1998. In the 17-years since then, all the content of the website has been preserved and has been available, at the same URLs, during that entire time period. Prior to c.1998, beginning in c.1994, the website was hosted under a different domain name. All of the content from that period is also still available on the present-day website. |
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