Forum: WHALER
  ContinuousWave
  Whaler
  Moderated Discussion Areas
  ContinuousWave: The Whaler GAM or General Area
  Stolen Trailer Jack.

Post New Topic  Post Reply
search | FAQ | profile | register | author help

Author Topic:   Stolen Trailer Jack.
Whaler4me posted 05-01-2001 11:55 AM ET (US)   Profile for Whaler4me   Send Email to Whaler4me  
I just came back from the boat yard where I keep my 19' outrage, and I could not figure out what was different, until I saw that the trailer jack was missing. It is so frustrating to have something stolen from you!!! The replacement cost is only about $30, but it is the principle behind it. Sorry just venting.
Tom W Clark posted 05-01-2001 12:54 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tom W Clark  Send Email to Tom W Clark     
Brother, I'm with ya'. It is a sense of violation! It's happened a few times to me but the worst was in March of 1990 after a winter of completely taking apart my newly aquired 1983 Outrage 18 and refinishing/customizing it. I had worked on it while it was stored in an airplane hanger at a local airport but now that it was ready for the water and had been out on a test run or two it was time to move it to its new home, the dock at Ray's Boathouse here in the Ballard neighborhood of Seattle. Ray's has a big pier with a sling/lift launch which tennants operate themselves. They give you a key to operate the sling/lift when you move in and they also give you a key to the gate which is to be locked at all times except when you are moving your boat in or out.

I took the boat down there with a friend and we tested the sling by launching and going for a ride. When we returned we put the boat back on its trailer, flushed it out out and rolled it over to my designated parking space. I had meant to bring some chain and a lock so I could chain it to the fence "just in case" but I didn't, but made a note to return first thing the next morning. Surely it would be safe for one night behind a locked gate, right? Wrong. I felt ill at ease all night so I got up early the next morning and drove across town. As I rounded the last bend my heart sank! The boat was nowhere to be seen. Perhaps managment had moved it I thought but no, it was not to be found. I was stunned, I couldn't believe it. I called 911 to report it stolen but quickly found out that they had found and towed a boat registered to me from the side of a hiway in the South end of town.

My roommate and I drove to the towing yard to recover it and when we arrived I saw that the motors were missing. The thieves had helped themselves to the Johnson 150, the Johnson 15 kicker, both batteries and my fish landing net. To remove the motors quickly the thieves had cut both steering cables, the control cables, wiring harness, fuel lines, battrery cables, everything! In addition to this they pried both teak console access doors off their hinges destoying one of them damaging the other. It hurt to think of all the time I spent scraping and sanding down the teak louveres to bare wood and rubbing in about six coats of teak oil.

Well the story had an OK ending. The boat was insured and the insurance paid for a brand new Johnson 150, 9.9 kicker, and all the riggings from the console back in addition to batteries, props, ect. The bill came to about ten grand. My deductable was $100.

After that I bought a length of 3/8 galvanized chain with the biggest padlock that would fit through the links which went throught the trailer frame and around, not the fence, but a 10 x 10 timber on the dock itself. A Kryptonite bicycle lock wrapped around the leg of the kicker and around the loop of chain. I put a Tempo clamp handle lock on the kicker motor to make it difficult to unscrew. I put a coupler lock on the trailer and a prop lock on the SST prop. Never had a problem after that. But boy, I still fantasize about catching the bastards....

FISHNFF posted 05-01-2001 04:38 PM ET (US)     Profile for FISHNFF  Send Email to FISHNFF     
I store my boat next to my house but outside. No problems yet but one day I got paranoid and thought I'd secure it better.

1. Wheel locks on two wheels and spare.
2. Krypton cable lock on spare and mount to frame.
3. Welded nuts on coupler, jack, winch stand.
4. Weld hitchball to cushioned receiver hitch.
5. Wheel immobilizer similar to Boot.
6. McGuard motor and prop lock.
7. Fulton coupler lock which covers opening.

Already had Master coupler lock and receiver pin lock. If I ever need to remove the welded on parts, will cut them off. Couldn't see why though. Now I can rest a little better.

triblet posted 05-01-2001 04:44 PM ET (US)     Profile for triblet  Send Email to triblet     
Tom, you got the important part (the whaler) back.

Spend more than $30 on the new jack if it
goes in salt water. The $30 jacks aren't
well corrosion protected. The more
expensive ones last longer. I went through
three cheap jacks in a year and a half.
The expensive ($55)jack is coming up on two
years and going strong.

Chuck

whalernut posted 05-01-2001 04:51 PM ET (US)     Profile for whalernut  Send Email to whalernut     
It seems that Saltwater boats are higher maintanece, and you also need to spend more money keeping them looking nice and more money on the saltwater accesories(stainless steel, powder coating, etc.). But I agree with you Chuck, spend on the quality now, not later. $30 Jacks last many, many, many years in freshwater and i never see powder coated products around Lake Erie, is powder coating popular around the Salt? Regards-Jack Graner.
Eric posted 05-01-2001 06:18 PM ET (US)     Profile for Eric  Send Email to Eric     
I keep my boat on the street across from my house. It doesn't make me comfortable, but I just bought the house, and would have to move 2 trees, a hedge and a large palmetto bush to get it next to the house. I have the coupler welded on, and have a gorilla lock and hitch lock on the coupler. Then I jack the trailer up on some jack stands to unweight the tires, and lock the safety chain to the jack handle. I also run a heavy logging chain through the wheels, and around the axle and lock each end. When I get a stainless prop, it'll get a lock too.
lhg posted 05-01-2001 09:32 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
Here's a true launching ramp story that I suppose belongs in this section. As background, I should say that often people dock their trailer based boats for a season at a marina, and the marina lets them park the empty trailer in an on-premises lot for the season.

So one Sunday evening about an hour before dark, I pull my Whaler back into the dock at the Port Sheldon launching ramp, about 10 miles south of Grand Haven Michigan, after a day on the water. On the other side of the dock is big Go-fast boat, about 30' with twin Mercruiser 502's, etc, sitting there with the engine covers up.

As we get the Whaler back on the trailer, I ask the guy what he's waiting for.

He says "one of my engines went out, and I had to idle in here. I'm out of Grand Haven, about 10 miles up the Lake Michigan shore. I'm waiting for one of my buddies to come an get me with a trailer, so we can get the boat back to it's slip."

So I thought, "allright, sounds reasonable" and finished up loading the Whaler to head home.

Then his friend pulls in with his trailer, or so I thought.

I look at it and quickly ask "that can't be THE trailer for THAT boat?"

The trailer is a light weight dual axle, 13" wheels, painted EZ loader or something similar, about 5 years old, with a rating of about 4000 lbs, for about a 20-22'boat.

Dumb as I am, "I say I think your trailer's a little small for your boat".

To which his buddy says, "Oh, it's not HIS trailer - he doesn't trail that boat. It's too big and heavy".

Seeing the totally confused look on my face, the friend says "I just borrowed it from his Marina parking lot. There's a whole bunch of trailers left there over the summer".

So I say, "did the owner know what a heavy boat (I estimate about 9000lbs) you're going to put on his trailer?"
He says "Oh, hell no, I just took it. The guy will never know the difference when he puts his boat back on it this October." (This is in July)

I said, "But's it's way too small and short".
You're going to trash that trailer if you put THAT boat on it"

He says "well, it's the biggest one I could get, so it will have to do. It should work out just fine"

So I think this is going to be interesting to see what these two Bozos do next!

The pickup truck backs the trailer in the water, the guy revs up the one engine still running and jambs the boat on the bunk trailer as far as it will go. The trailer creaks, groans and makes other not good sounds, and settles down real low. They hook the winch as best they can. Truck pulls the whole load up and as the boat weight floats on to the trailer, the frame collapses front to back where the tongue connects, one of the front trailer tires blows out from the weight as boat comes up the ramp. The last 6' are hanging right off the back of the trailer, the rear cross member sags almost down to the ground, and a spring snaps, allowing the frame to slam down on the axles directly.

So here they are, looking at the boat sitting crooked on the trailer, which is basically destroyed and scaping on the ground.

Standing there in total disbelief,
I said "now what are you guys going to do?"

The guy with the gold chain says "Oh, no sweat, we'll just go slow and take the back roads. The cops aren't out this time of the evening (now dark), the Marina's closed so we'll just re-launch her up there and put the trailer back. The guy will never know the difference until October."

While I'm still shaking my head, off they go, slowly, one blown tire being shredded on the rim, other 3 tires down to the rims, trailer frame scaping and dragging the ground, sparks and all. Have often wondered it they made it. Then there's the poor guy that owned the trailer! I'd give anything for the look on his face when he saw it!

Tom W Clark posted 05-01-2001 09:54 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tom W Clark  Send Email to Tom W Clark     
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah!

There is no shortage of stupidity in this world.

triblet posted 05-01-2001 11:26 PM ET (US)     Profile for triblet  Send Email to triblet     
I've never seen a powder coated trailer
jack. Good (and more) galvanizing is what
differentiates the good trailer jacks from
the cheapies. The good one is also a touch
beefier.

Chuck
Whaletosh posted 05-02-2001 08:39 AM ET (US)     Profile for Whaletosh    
Larry,

While I did chuckle at the Port Sheldon story. I can't help wonder why you didn't take down a liscence plate number of the truck and trailer and the registration number of the boat; and then call the police.

Those two idiots were commiting a crime. "Borrowing" a trailer without the consent of the owner is called theft. In this case it would probably classified as grand larceny. Imagine the hassle the owner of the trailer had when he needed his trailer in October.

Sorry about the lecture, but as a person who has been the victim of violent crimes twice, and a couple of theft and vandalism incidences I am hyper-sensitive to crime.

Sean

Whaletosh posted 05-02-2001 08:52 AM ET (US)     Profile for Whaletosh    
Larry,

While I did chuckle at the Port Sheldon story. I can't help wonder why you didn't take down a liscence plate number of the truck and trailer and the registration number of the boat; and then call the police.

Those two idiots were commiting a crime. "Borrowing" a trailer without the consent of the owner is called theft. In this case it would probably classified as grand larceny. Imagine the hassle the owner of the trailer had when he needed his trailer in October.

Sorry about the lecture, but as a person who has been the victim of violent crimes twice, and a couple of theft and vandalism incidences I am hyper-sensitive to crime.

Sean

Eric posted 05-02-2001 09:53 AM ET (US)     Profile for Eric  Send Email to Eric     
I strongly agree with Sean. If you witness a crime being committed, then you have a responsibility to report it. They had given the details of the crime to the witness.
In this situation, I wonder if this person then becomes an accessory to the crime if it's not reported.
JB posted 05-02-2001 10:15 AM ET (US)     Profile for JB  Send Email to JB     
I agree with Whaletosh and Eric. I'm partial to the philosophy of "do unto others..." I hope the shoe is never on the other foot where somebody is watching some morons "borrow" stuff from your rig and they either don't stop them or it goes unreported...
Eric posted 05-02-2001 10:24 AM ET (US)     Profile for Eric  Send Email to Eric     
After reading the "stolen whaler" postings again, it occurred to me that the boat mentioned here may have been stolen too! If in doubt, call the cops, and let the pros sort it out.
lhg posted 05-02-2001 02:29 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
I certainly thought about reporting the incident, but it occurred to me they'd know who reported them, since we were the only ones there, and the only ones who knew about the situation. I figured I didn't need to show up dead some morning. A 25' Whaler on a trailer makes one easy to find.

I figured there was a good chance they'd get caught with a broken down trailer alongside the road. Never occurred to me that the boat could be stolen also.

Whaletosh posted 05-02-2001 03:55 PM ET (US)     Profile for Whaletosh    
Larry,

I wasn't trying to stir up a hornets nest with this one.

I have been in the same quandary as you. Do you risk you property and possibly you life and health to report a crime? That is a personal judjement, which one must weigh the possible ramifications carefully. I have been the witness to some crimes as well. Stepping forward isn't always the prudent thing to do. I merely asked if Larry had considered it. Many times one can make an anonymous call to the police. They can then just "happen" to be crusing by. But as Larry stated, anonymity and a 25 Whaler aren't easy to obtain.

So before a lot of "piling on" occurs on this thread. I was merely posing a question, from a crime victims stand point. On one of the occasions that I was assulted if some body hadn't called the police I would probably not be writing this.

Sean

Post New Topic  Post Reply
Hop to:


Contact Us | RETURN to ContinuousWave Top Page

Powered by: Ultimate Bulletin Board, Freeware Version 2000
Purchase our Licensed Version- which adds many more features!
© Infopop Corporation (formerly Madrona Park, Inc.), 1998 - 2000.