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Dan posted 06-11-2001 02:48 PM ET (US)
I went fishing in the Long Island Sound yesterday and almost went postal. Jerks in big boats (SeaRay type), came barreling through, without bothering to slow down or circle around, and wound up ruining the fishing for smaller boats like mine that were drifting for fluke. One [boater] decided the perfect course was right between the "fleet" of small boats. Some of the waves these jerks made were as high as three feet. One [boat]'s wake caused my 17' Outrage to take twenty gallons or so over the bow. I was tempted to whip out my flare gun and Rambo-ize him. Many boaters don't realize that they're responsible for the damage their wakes cause. Besides being dangerous, waiting for the next wake-attack to blind side you made it impossible to relax. The Long Island Sound is huge. Why can't these jerks leave the smaller boaters [alone]? Okay, that's all I wanted to say. Oh yeah, one jerk cruised through full tilt, only to stop with stereo blaring and engines screaming to ask "how's the fishing?" Well, if the jerko's reading this hear's your answer, "fine till you showed up." And oh yeah, the jerko didn't even have fishing rods -- just small talk from a small mind with a big mouth in a big boat at 4 gallons per mile.
hauptjm posted 06-11-2001 03:04 PM ET (US)
I understand your frustration. Two weeks ago, we were under a minute to our start of a race, 12 boats, all 40 feet and bigger, trying to get the best start of a relatively short bouy race. Along comes Harvey Hairmoose. Peroxide warhorse along side, steaming in at 25mph right across the starting line. Our race committee catches "yahoo" of the year's name on his stern and calls it in to the USCG located just a mile or two from the start. Out comes our local boys on a grey 25ft. with a familiar smirk and lights ablazing. What a great site to see, coming into the harbor after a hard days sailing to see the king (I'll bet his name really is Elvis) and his fair maiden (it wasn't even a claiming race) tied up to the dock and autographing some citations.
Peter posted 06-11-2001 04:19 PM ET (US)
I share the frustration. It seems that we have an awful lot of those over grown travel iron styled bubble boats out here and it is just getting worse. Hardly a weekend goes by that I don't have to steer clear of one of these things when I'm underway or hold on for dear life when they "buzz" by too close to us when we are anchored. However, when anchored in a harbor, they usually provide a source of amusement when watching the captains set or pull up anchor.

Toad2001 posted 06-11-2001 06:18 PM ET (US)
This is not unique to where you live, or because you have a small boat.
My trawler runs at 8knots, and is affected greatly by the average 40 foot Baygrinder (it rolls a lot with a beam sea).
I almost think they sometimes run at the absolute worse RPM to generate the biggest wake possible, to make them feel like they are big shots with boats even larger than they are.
(Sometimes) I call on channel 16 to get their attention and advise them of what they have done. Calling their boat name and advising them of their inconsideration (in a professional manner) is probably the most embarassment they can receive. That's the problem, unless they physically damage something, there is no recourse to my knowledge.
I also make a mental note of when and by who these things occur. I believe in what comes around goes around. When one of these idiots runs out of fuel or needs any other non-emergency assistance that I could technically offer, I wouldn't.
I exchanged words with a guy last summer. Not only did he blast past an quiet, calm anchorage and create 3' rollers thru it, but he had the nerve to alter course and steer into it, not slowing down, and still producing huge swells (46' Maxim). I went over and made a scene, and it was worth it. But I still don't think he had a clue as to what "my problem" was.
Is it illegal to swim over with a cordless drill and a holesaw blade and install an additional underwater thru hull?
Duncan posted 06-11-2001 06:21 PM ET (US)
12 Gauge and a couple of slugs into the engine compartment might do well to teach Zipperhead some manners.
Metro NYC is full of 'em. Particularly Lawn Guyland.
Too bad the Coast Guard is so down on shotguns onboard in NY Harbor!
george nagy posted 06-11-2001 06:32 PM ET (US)
Yes I too have been plagued here in south FL with the same species (maximum wakus. Once in fact when I was younger a few of us were in a friend's 13 sport when a "cabin cruisa" passed us at full throttle(wake) and caused us to pitch pole (flip over) and they did not even stop. To add insult to injury while we were sitting on the upside down hull other "cruisas there" didn't even lend assistance. Some with radar and every antenna possible said they "didn't have radios" when we asked them to call the coast guard others just picked up some of our floating debris like life jackets, throw cushions, cleaners, etc.. and drove off. You gotta love living in an area like this! But I can see now it happens more places than here. Well Good Boating to all! even those in the "cabin cruisas There"
george nagy posted 06-11-2001 06:43 PM ET (US)
By the way, What year is your outrage? Is it one of the new ones? I was looking at a 1999 brochure the other day and I was very interested in that model and was wondering what happened to it as they no longer make them. The same goes for the 20' outrage. I'm going to start a new topic so I don't dilute yours thanks!
jimh posted 06-11-2001 10:32 PM ET (US)
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Author	Topic: I hate jerks in big boats!
Dan	posted 06-11-2001 02:48 PM ET (US) I went fishing in the Long Island Sound yesterday and almost went postal. Jerks in big boats (SeaRay type), came barreling through, without bothering to slow down or circle around, and wound up ruining the fishing for smaller boats like mine that were drifting for fluke. One [boater] decided the perfect course was right between the "fleet" of small boats. Some of the waves these jerks made were as high as three feet. One [boat]'s wake caused my 17' Outrage to take twenty gallons or so over the bow. I was tempted to whip out my flare gun and Rambo-ize him. Many boaters don't realize that they're responsible for the damage their wakes cause. Besides being dangerous, waiting for the next wake-attack to blind side you made it impossible to relax. The Long Island Sound is huge. Why can't these jerks leave the smaller boaters [alone]? Okay, that's all I wanted to say. Oh yeah, one jerk cruised through full tilt, only to stop with stereo blaring and engines screaming to ask "how's the fishing?" Well, if the jerko's reading this hear's your answer, "fine till you showed up." And oh yeah, the jerko didn't even have fishing rods -- just small talk from a small mind with a big mouth in a big boat at 4 gallons per mile.
hauptjm	posted 06-11-2001 03:04 PM ET (US) I understand your frustration. Two weeks ago, we were under a minute to our start of a race, 12 boats, all 40 feet and bigger, trying to get the best start of a relatively short bouy race. Along comes Harvey Hairmoose. Peroxide warhorse along side, steaming in at 25mph right across the starting line. Our race committee catches "yahoo" of the year's name on his stern and calls it in to the USCG located just a mile or two from the start. Out comes our local boys on a grey 25ft. with a familiar smirk and lights ablazing. What a great site to see, coming into the harbor after a hard days sailing to see the king (I'll bet his name really is Elvis) and his fair maiden (it wasn't even a claiming race) tied up to the dock and autographing some citations.
Peter	posted 06-11-2001 04:19 PM ET (US) I share the frustration. It seems that we have an awful lot of those over grown travel iron styled bubble boats out here and it is just getting worse. Hardly a weekend goes by that I don't have to steer clear of one of these things when I'm underway or hold on for dear life when they "buzz" by too close to us when we are anchored. However, when anchored in a harbor, they usually provide a source of amusement when watching the captains set or pull up anchor.
Toad2001	posted 06-11-2001 06:18 PM ET (US) This is not unique to where you live, or because you have a small boat. My trawler runs at 8knots, and is affected greatly by the average 40 foot Baygrinder (it rolls a lot with a beam sea). I almost think they sometimes run at the absolute worse RPM to generate the biggest wake possible, to make them feel like they are big shots with boats even larger than they are. (Sometimes) I call on channel 16 to get their attention and advise them of what they have done. Calling their boat name and advising them of their inconsideration (in a professional manner) is probably the most embarassment they can receive. That's the problem, unless they physically damage something, there is no recourse to my knowledge. I also make a mental note of when and by who these things occur. I believe in what comes around goes around. When one of these idiots runs out of fuel or needs any other non-emergency assistance that I could technically offer, I wouldn't. I exchanged words with a guy last summer. Not only did he blast past an quiet, calm anchorage and create 3' rollers thru it, but he had the nerve to alter course and steer into it, not slowing down, and still producing huge swells (46' Maxim). I went over and made a scene, and it was worth it. But I still don't think he had a clue as to what "my problem" was. Is it illegal to swim over with a cordless drill and a holesaw blade and install an additional underwater thru hull?
Duncan	posted 06-11-2001 06:21 PM ET (US) 12 Gauge and a couple of slugs into the engine compartment might do well to teach Zipperhead some manners. Metro NYC is full of 'em. Particularly Lawn Guyland. Too bad the Coast Guard is so down on shotguns onboard in NY Harbor!
george nagy	posted 06-11-2001 06:32 PM ET (US) Yes I too have been plagued here in south FL with the same species (maximum wakus. Once in fact when I was younger a few of us were in a friend's 13 sport when a "cabin cruisa" passed us at full throttle(wake) and caused us to pitch pole (flip over) and they did not even stop. To add insult to injury while we were sitting on the upside down hull other "cruisas there" didn't even lend assistance. Some with radar and every antenna possible said they "didn't have radios" when we asked them to call the coast guard others just picked up some of our floating debris like life jackets, throw cushions, cleaners, etc.. and drove off. You gotta love living in an area like this! But I can see now it happens more places than here. Well Good Boating to all! even those in the "cabin cruisas There"
george nagy	posted 06-11-2001 06:43 PM ET (US) By the way, What year is your outrage? Is it one of the new ones? I was looking at a 1999 brochure the other day and I was very interested in that model and was wondering what happened to it as they no longer make them. The same goes for the 20' outrage. I'm going to start a new topic so I don't dilute yours thanks!
jimh	posted 06-11-2001 10:32 PM ET (US) [This post is for administrative reasons]