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Montauk/Dauntless 16 observations
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posted 06-20-2001 06:31 PM ET (US)
Picked up my new Montauk last Thursday. I LOVE this boat and the Merc 90HP 4 stroke.
I owned a Dauntless 16 with a Merc 90HP 2 stroke for 2 years before this.
I've been getting several e-mails off line about the differences I've observed. So some observations for those interested.
2) Unless you see these 2 boats side by side you really can't imagine how much bigger the Dauntless 16 really is. It's much easier for me to load/unload by myself.
3) Montauk comes up on plane much faster with lower speed/RPM. Dauntless seemed to plow a bit with the bow up before finally coming up on plane. Montauk seems to jump up and go.
4) Dauntless has a tendency to take on more water over the transom. Unless I feathered the throttle back VERY slowly I would always get some slosh in the engine well. Montauk even with heavier 4 stroke doesn't seem as prone to this.
5) Even though Montauk is a smaller boat there seems to be much more usable interior space. I think it's because of the squared off bow and no built in rear quarter seats.
3) Features/features/features. If your looking for all the built in goodies, here they are.
4) Nice standard features: Built in 45gal tank & self bailing cockpit.
So thats about it. Both are superb boats. Just depends on what your use will be & what your looking for.
Hope this helps anyone trying to decide between old v.s. new designs.
posted 06-20-2001 07:20 PM ET (US)
Barnett, what's your top speed on your montauk with the merc 90hp 4-stroke.
posted 06-20-2001 08:47 PM ET (US)
Not sure as I'm still breaking in the engine & haven't really run WOT. Also I don't have a GPS mounted yet.
Chuck Bennett @ Whaler sent me this response about Montauks with different engine combos.
The 60 hp is the lightest at 252 lbs (dry weight).
The 90 hp Merc 2 stroke is next at about 303 lbs.
The 90 hp Merc. 4 stroke weighs in at about 386 lbs (dry weight).
The 90 hp 4 stroke weight has not really been an issue with the Montauk
end of quote.
I used to get about 40MPH or so with the 16 Dauntless & 90HP 2 stroke with 2 on board light gear and less than 1/2 tank of fuel. So low to mid 40's sounds about right to me.
posted 06-25-2001 09:07 AM ET (US)
Thanks for your honest assesment,
I too wondered about the change. I was also suprised by the stability statement since some had the opposite view point on the forum.
posted 06-25-2001 11:07 AM ET (US)
4 stroke will NOT be faster than a 2 stroke. Weight and power band are very different. I would say a 4 stroke on a montauk will suck 2 mph or so, no big deal.
posted 06-25-2001 09:33 PM ET (US)
The Dauntless is a bit more forgiving with weight placement side to side. People could move around in the Dauntless and the boat really didn't move to much. If you check out the flotation #'s and the pics in the Whaler catalog where they cut a Dauntless 16 in half it's no wonder.
Top end speed MPH numbers came from Whaler. I agree 2mph at the very top end is not that big of a deal (to me). I was however a bit worried about the extra 80lbs on the transom and the static trim of the boat. But no problems. I'm very happy with the Merc 90 HP 4Stroke. It's perfect for the way we are going to use the boat.
Anyway, the extra weight of the bow mounted trolling motor and 2 more batteries in the console installed should help compensate for the extra transom weight.
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