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James posted 06-21-2001 11:18 PM ET (US)
This is my first post within this very interesting Whaler Forum. I view it daily. I am planning to purchase (and keep) during the coming off-season a new or a left-over 18-20 ft. boat (perhaps even a lightly used recent boat) . From what I have read and seen, a Whaler Outrage 18 with a 135-150HP would probably be my preferred choice. Does anyone know why BW stopped making the Outrage 18. Was there a problem with the latest model version. Are there any plans to reintroduce any Outrage smaller than the 21 in the near future. Any pertinent information would be greatly appreciated!
James.
hooter posted 06-22-2001 10:26 AM ET (US)
Truth is, nobody on this forum has a clue! You may get a bunch of opinions, but they's all comin' from people who love the classics. Lord knows none o' us can figure it out. Ya best bet is to ask somebody at Whaler dat one. Dey'll spout some mumbo-jumbo about changing trends an' focus groups an' all, an probably never get ya' a satisfactory answer. As fo' the 18'6" hull wid a 150 on back, it's absolutely the perfect compromise for bay, marsh and light off-shore fishin'. Pre-1991, most of 'em have the teak trim that gives all types of boaters a rush to see when its maintained. After '91 or so, they don't have teak but they're still a wonnerful hull. Plan on spendin' round $18-to-$20 thou all in, an' you can find you a classic hull and repower with all the bells and whistles for about dat much money or less if ya' lucky. Good luck to ya!
Chap posted 06-22-2001 11:30 AM ET (US)
Don't shoot the messenger.
I love these boats and have never had a problem in my friend's 18.
We have always heard that they had a tendency to flip.
Any truth to this?
Chap
Ventura16 posted 06-22-2001 12:45 PM ET (US)
James, i don't know the real story behind the cancellation of the latest 18, but my neighbor has a 2000 Outrage 18 and absolutely loves it. It has a 135 Optimax and really gets up and goes. In the last year and a half, he has had only one minor problem...a blown fuse in the ignition system...easily fixed once it was diagnosed...
I don't know how the performance of his Outrage directly compares to the previous 18's, but it seems roomy, stable, and of typically high Whaler quality to me...I wish it was mine. ;-)
Tom
James posted 06-22-2001 02:15 PM ET (US)
Tom,
I have no clue as to what the actual difference in performance is between a 135 and a 150 HP motor on an Outrage 18. My boat will be used in Sandy Hook Bay and nearby rivers. The 135 Optimax is supposed to be very economical which is very good at 2001 gas prices. Most of the model year 2000 Outrage 18 boats on sale in the net seem to have a 150HP, so I may not have a choice, unless the model is resurrected by BW for 2002. However, can I infer from your comments that the 135 Optimax is sufficient and not lacking in power?
James.
Ventura16 posted 06-22-2001 06:08 PM ET (US)
The 135 Optimax certainly doesn't seem lacking in power to me....it planes quickly and has a good top end...these are just my perceptions after being on the boat one time. I can get real numbers from George (my neighbor) if you like. It seems to have about the same top end as my Ventura 16 w/90 hp. 2-stroke carb. and it is a much larger and heavier boat. I know that George is very happy with it and says it is very economical too.
We live on an inland lake where he uses it daily, but he has taken it out many times on Lake St. Clair which is quite a large lake...and I know he has taken it down to Miami at least once to get it wet in some saltwater.
Tom

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Author	Topic: Outrage 18 Question
James	posted 06-21-2001 11:18 PM ET (US) This is my first post within this very interesting Whaler Forum. I view it daily. I am planning to purchase (and keep) during the coming off-season a new or a left-over 18-20 ft. boat (perhaps even a lightly used recent boat) . From what I have read and seen, a Whaler Outrage 18 with a 135-150HP would probably be my preferred choice. Does anyone know why BW stopped making the Outrage 18. Was there a problem with the latest model version. Are there any plans to reintroduce any Outrage smaller than the 21 in the near future. Any pertinent information would be greatly appreciated! James.
hooter	posted 06-22-2001 10:26 AM ET (US) Truth is, nobody on this forum has a clue! You may get a bunch of opinions, but they's all comin' from people who love the classics. Lord knows none o' us can figure it out. Ya best bet is to ask somebody at Whaler dat one. Dey'll spout some mumbo-jumbo about changing trends an' focus groups an' all, an probably never get ya' a satisfactory answer. As fo' the 18'6" hull wid a 150 on back, it's absolutely the perfect compromise for bay, marsh and light off-shore fishin'. Pre-1991, most of 'em have the teak trim that gives all types of boaters a rush to see when its maintained. After '91 or so, they don't have teak but they're still a wonnerful hull. Plan on spendin' round $18-to-$20 thou all in, an' you can find you a classic hull and repower with all the bells and whistles for about dat much money or less if ya' lucky. Good luck to ya!
Chap	posted 06-22-2001 11:30 AM ET (US) Don't shoot the messenger. I love these boats and have never had a problem in my friend's 18. We have always heard that they had a tendency to flip. Any truth to this? Chap
Ventura16	posted 06-22-2001 12:45 PM ET (US) James, i don't know the real story behind the cancellation of the latest 18, but my neighbor has a 2000 Outrage 18 and absolutely loves it. It has a 135 Optimax and really gets up and goes. In the last year and a half, he has had only one minor problem...a blown fuse in the ignition system...easily fixed once it was diagnosed... I don't know how the performance of his Outrage directly compares to the previous 18's, but it seems roomy, stable, and of typically high Whaler quality to me...I wish it was mine. ;-) Tom
James	posted 06-22-2001 02:15 PM ET (US) Tom, I have no clue as to what the actual difference in performance is between a 135 and a 150 HP motor on an Outrage 18. My boat will be used in Sandy Hook Bay and nearby rivers. The 135 Optimax is supposed to be very economical which is very good at 2001 gas prices. Most of the model year 2000 Outrage 18 boats on sale in the net seem to have a 150HP, so I may not have a choice, unless the model is resurrected by BW for 2002. However, can I infer from your comments that the 135 Optimax is sufficient and not lacking in power? James.
Ventura16	posted 06-22-2001 06:08 PM ET (US) The 135 Optimax certainly doesn't seem lacking in power to me....it planes quickly and has a good top end...these are just my perceptions after being on the boat one time. I can get real numbers from George (my neighbor) if you like. It seems to have about the same top end as my Ventura 16 w/90 hp. 2-stroke carb. and it is a much larger and heavier boat. I know that George is very happy with it and says it is very economical too. We live on an inland lake where he uses it daily, but he has taken it out many times on Lake St. Clair which is quite a large lake...and I know he has taken it down to Miami at least once to get it wet in some saltwater. Tom