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Bryan posted 07-16-2001 10:26 PM ET (US)
Hi, I have a 15' Whaler and need to move to a larger boat. I am looking at 17s, and 18 foot used boats. What's the difference between a 17' Outrage and a Montack? Are they the same hull?
thanks.
Duncan posted 07-16-2001 11:48 PM ET (US)
A Montauk is essentially a larger version of your 15 in terms of hull shape. The Outrages have a more defined V in the hull to give a drier, softer ride in big water.
Some of the other guys could certainly expound on finer points.
whalertim posted 07-17-2001 08:09 AM ET (US)
Bryan, the Montauk is 16'7" with a hp max of 100. Where the 18' Outrage is 18'6" with a much higher rating in HP. How much I am not sure. Others here can expand on that. However; You really need to look at what you are wanting to do with the boat. If you are looking a great sound boat for the ICW and for lakes. The Montauk is great! If you are looking toward Fishing the big water, the 18 Outrage is a much better ride and drier ride. But then again more $$$$.
Just my 2 cents.
Whalertim
Bigshot posted 07-17-2001 09:55 AM ET (US)
Look at the main page, gives a description of the hulls. both the 17 & 18 OR have a max of 150 vs mpontauk's 100. They also weigh alot more and draw more water. As far as room goes, not a lot more in the OR but either is a big jump from the 15. I have had 3 15's and they are the most fun Whaler ever built but that is as long as the wter is relatively calm. The montauk is a great alternative and tows just as easy.
Tom W Clark posted 07-17-2001 10:17 AM ET (US)
Bryan,
The 17' Montauk and the 17' Outrage are not at all the same. The Montauk is closer in hull design to your 15 where as the 17 OR is closer to the 18 OR in design.
Montauk: 16' 7", 100 hp max
17 Outrage: 17' 6", 120 hp max
18 Outrage: 18'6", 150 hp max
It's a really big (and nice) step up from a Montauk to an 18 OR. The 18 OR is basically half again as much boat; half again as much horsepower, half again as much weight and capacity. Plus it is a V-hull instead of a tri-hull. Because of this gap, Whaler introduced the 17 OR to round out their product line.
The 17 OR is very close in design to the 18 OR in that it has the V-hull and built in fuel tank. I believe it was the last Dougherty designed Whaler as well. I have never ridden in a 17 OR so I don't have any firsthand experience with its performance but I have owned both the Montauk and the 18 OR so I may be more than a little biased If I suggest that these are the boats to look at.
It really comes down to price and room for storage. If you can afford it and store it, then go for it. On the other hand, the Montauk is such a classic (dare I say one of the best boats ever conceived) that I kinda' think you ought to own one just for the experience.
JE Mejia posted 07-27-2001 12:29 AM ET (US)
Actually, there are two Outrage 17s. One (I call them Outrage I) was made in the early to mid90s and is 17'3" rated for 120HP. The other other was made later (I think it is a post-Daugherty "Accutrack"), is 17'6" and rated for 150HP. The latter boat is a wider, much deeper hull with more fuel capacity and "amenities." The former is simple, lean and a great boat with the 120HP. I own an Outrage I and absolutely love it. Incredibly well mannered boat in following seas, but just too short to run right into a big chop.

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Author	Topic: Outrage 17'6"
Bryan	posted 07-16-2001 10:26 PM ET (US) Hi, I have a 15' Whaler and need to move to a larger boat. I am looking at 17s, and 18 foot used boats. What's the difference between a 17' Outrage and a Montack? Are they the same hull? thanks.
Duncan	posted 07-16-2001 11:48 PM ET (US) A Montauk is essentially a larger version of your 15 in terms of hull shape. The Outrages have a more defined V in the hull to give a drier, softer ride in big water. Some of the other guys could certainly expound on finer points.
whalertim	posted 07-17-2001 08:09 AM ET (US) Bryan, the Montauk is 16'7" with a hp max of 100. Where the 18' Outrage is 18'6" with a much higher rating in HP. How much I am not sure. Others here can expand on that. However; You really need to look at what you are wanting to do with the boat. If you are looking a great sound boat for the ICW and for lakes. The Montauk is great! If you are looking toward Fishing the big water, the 18 Outrage is a much better ride and drier ride. But then again more $$$$. Just my 2 cents. Whalertim
Bigshot	posted 07-17-2001 09:55 AM ET (US) Look at the main page, gives a description of the hulls. both the 17 & 18 OR have a max of 150 vs mpontauk's 100. They also weigh alot more and draw more water. As far as room goes, not a lot more in the OR but either is a big jump from the 15. I have had 3 15's and they are the most fun Whaler ever built but that is as long as the wter is relatively calm. The montauk is a great alternative and tows just as easy.
Tom W Clark	posted 07-17-2001 10:17 AM ET (US) Bryan, The 17' Montauk and the 17' Outrage are not at all the same. The Montauk is closer in hull design to your 15 where as the 17 OR is closer to the 18 OR in design. Montauk: 16' 7", 100 hp max 17 Outrage: 17' 6", 120 hp max 18 Outrage: 18'6", 150 hp max It's a really big (and nice) step up from a Montauk to an 18 OR. The 18 OR is basically half again as much boat; half again as much horsepower, half again as much weight and capacity. Plus it is a V-hull instead of a tri-hull. Because of this gap, Whaler introduced the 17 OR to round out their product line. The 17 OR is very close in design to the 18 OR in that it has the V-hull and built in fuel tank. I believe it was the last Dougherty designed Whaler as well. I have never ridden in a 17 OR so I don't have any firsthand experience with its performance but I have owned both the Montauk and the 18 OR so I may be more than a little biased If I suggest that these are the boats to look at. It really comes down to price and room for storage. If you can afford it and store it, then go for it. On the other hand, the Montauk is such a classic (dare I say one of the best boats ever conceived) that I kinda' think you ought to own one just for the experience.
JE Mejia	posted 07-27-2001 12:29 AM ET (US) Actually, there are two Outrage 17s. One (I call them Outrage I) was made in the early to mid90s and is 17'3" rated for 120HP. The other other was made later (I think it is a post-Daugherty "Accutrack"), is 17'6" and rated for 150HP. The latter boat is a wider, much deeper hull with more fuel capacity and "amenities." The former is simple, lean and a great boat with the 120HP. I own an Outrage I and absolutely love it. Incredibly well mannered boat in following seas, but just too short to run right into a big chop.