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John W posted 07-17-2001 02:18 PM ET (US)
I'm interested in info on the older early 1970's 21 foot Outrage models & hope someone can help. I'm looking for a project boat to refinish and am interested in this model, it seems like a good fit for the large shallow bays of west Florida, but I need some first hand experience...
Are these boats self bailing, or must water on deck be pumped out?
Is it true that these boats only draw 10" or so with the motor up?
I've seen mention on this board that the early outrages were rough riding. From looking at the hull I know it wouldn't ride like a deep-vee late model Outrage, but is the ride any worse than other shallow-draft, modified-vee boats like small Mako's, Aquasports and modern bay boats?
Is the fuel tank on deck or below deck?
Any other insights would be appreciated. Thanks.
Bigshot posted 07-17-2001 02:30 PM ET (US)
Had a 1974 19' revenge. It will go in a foot of water. They are not rough riding unless you get in some stuff, just like any boat of that era. The bow has a nice v but the rear is modified so it is round, just like the Montauk's. Wide beam, stable, dry,etc. Gas tank is under deck, mine had a 40 gal(tooo small) but 12 gal saddle tanks were an option. Very economical and built like a brick s*#%house. Decks are super self bailing, never put a plug in mine except for front cooler. Matter of fact, don't even think we had plugs.
dfmcintyre posted 07-17-2001 07:28 PM ET (US)
john -
I've got a 1973 21'....heres the info:
the 21 is self bailing
it indeed draws just 10"
it doe's ride rougher then a comparable V'ed, but no worse than other shallow draft's of the same size.
When it was introduced in the early 70's, it had external quarter tanks the later models had two improvements; internal 40 gallon tanks (with optional 20 saddle's) and an above deck anchor locker (without the loss of the below deck's locker).
Don
Marco Whalo posted 07-17-2001 08:24 PM ET (US)
I have a 1975 19'4" Outrage. It is mostly self bailing. There are a couple of places with plugs. I do have a bilge in one. I have a 150 HP and a 6 HP kicker. Mine does go in a foot of water and planes easily at 3100 RPMs.
I think 1970's 21 Outrage is perfect for where you are. It is stable, solid, trailerable, relatively light. All the things that made Whalers unique. You could use any motor from a 150 to 200. You wouldn't need twin screws (a kicker is always nice). On a side note, I'd love for BW to build these type of boats again in adDition to the current Vee shaped offerings.
John W posted 07-18-2001 11:49 AM ET (US)
Thanks for the info. I guess I should be tryingto find a model after they went to internal tanks. Any other insights on these boats is appreciated.

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Author	Topic: older Outrage questions
John W	posted 07-17-2001 02:18 PM ET (US) I'm interested in info on the older early 1970's 21 foot Outrage models & hope someone can help. I'm looking for a project boat to refinish and am interested in this model, it seems like a good fit for the large shallow bays of west Florida, but I need some first hand experience... Are these boats self bailing, or must water on deck be pumped out? Is it true that these boats only draw 10" or so with the motor up? I've seen mention on this board that the early outrages were rough riding. From looking at the hull I know it wouldn't ride like a deep-vee late model Outrage, but is the ride any worse than other shallow-draft, modified-vee boats like small Mako's, Aquasports and modern bay boats? Is the fuel tank on deck or below deck? Any other insights would be appreciated. Thanks.
Bigshot	posted 07-17-2001 02:30 PM ET (US) Had a 1974 19' revenge. It will go in a foot of water. They are not rough riding unless you get in some stuff, just like any boat of that era. The bow has a nice v but the rear is modified so it is round, just like the Montauk's. Wide beam, stable, dry,etc. Gas tank is under deck, mine had a 40 gal(tooo small) but 12 gal saddle tanks were an option. Very economical and built like a brick s*#%house. Decks are super self bailing, never put a plug in mine except for front cooler. Matter of fact, don't even think we had plugs.
dfmcintyre	posted 07-17-2001 07:28 PM ET (US) john - I've got a 1973 21'....heres the info: the 21 is self bailing it indeed draws just 10" it doe's ride rougher then a comparable V'ed, but no worse than other shallow draft's of the same size. When it was introduced in the early 70's, it had external quarter tanks the later models had two improvements; internal 40 gallon tanks (with optional 20 saddle's) and an above deck anchor locker (without the loss of the below deck's locker). Don
Marco Whalo	posted 07-17-2001 08:24 PM ET (US) I have a 1975 19'4" Outrage. It is mostly self bailing. There are a couple of places with plugs. I do have a bilge in one. I have a 150 HP and a 6 HP kicker. Mine does go in a foot of water and planes easily at 3100 RPMs. I think 1970's 21 Outrage is perfect for where you are. It is stable, solid, trailerable, relatively light. All the things that made Whalers unique. You could use any motor from a 150 to 200. You wouldn't need twin screws (a kicker is always nice). On a side note, I'd love for BW to build these type of boats again in adDition to the current Vee shaped offerings.
John W	posted 07-18-2001 11:49 AM ET (US) Thanks for the info. I guess I should be tryingto find a model after they went to internal tanks. Any other insights on these boats is appreciated.