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JFM posted 07-25-2001 05:09 PM ET (US)
I have found a good 1981 Montauk hull powered with a 1981 75HP Merc. with an ok galv. trailer. I have also found a 1999 90 HP Johnson fitch totally upgraded. The total deal will cost about 8500.00 . Do you guys think its worth it? The boat dealers have told me it nuts to repower an old boat, but if the hull can be bought right I tend to disagree with them. Thanks, Jay
gvisko posted 07-25-2001 06:37 PM ET (US)
i paid 6,300 for my 87 montauk with johnson
88 spl and trailer motor was in real good
shape i sold the motor and bought new 2001
4 stroke i feel like i have a brand new boat
dont listen to dealers gvisko<><
Landlocked posted 07-25-2001 07:33 PM ET (US)
Paid 6,200 for my 77 Montauk rig with a Johnson 85 hp. Motor has seen better days but I wouldn't trade it for anything. When it finally dies I will repower - $$ permitting with a Honda. I plan on keeping this boat for life.
Ll.
jimh posted 07-25-2001 08:10 PM ET (US)
A dealer with a showroom full of unsold boats in late July during a very slow sales season is probably not the most unbiased source of an opinion on the value of repowering an old Boston Whaler.
It is not unusual for a Whaler to go through three, four, even five or more engines in its lifetime.
If the hull is sound and in good condition, it makes very good sense to repower.
whalertim posted 07-25-2001 08:28 PM ET (US)
JFM, I tend to think that you need to look at it in a couple of different ways. 1- If you are going to keep this boat and use it for a long time to come. Then YES! It would be a good idea to repower it and enjoy your classic with a new engin. ON the other hand.2-If you think you might sell her in a couple of years. Well putting a lot of money into a newer engin might be a wast. You really need to look at it from what you want out of your Classic. jimh is correct! Its July, sales are going soft in alot of markets. A salesman wants you to buy new!!!
Just my 2 cents
Tim NC
JFM posted 07-25-2001 09:32 PM ET (US)
Thanks guys your advice is well taken. Regards,Jay
Eric posted 07-26-2001 08:56 PM ET (US)
Look carefully at the engine, since I don't think there were Ficht Johnsons built in 1999. I've got a 1999 90 Johnson, it is a carb motor. The early ficht motors were both Johnson and Evinrude, but OMC decided to make the former carbed and the latter injected motors. You need to determine when this happened, and what year the motor was really built. I also think that the earliest ficht motors were especially bad. This overall does sound like a good deal, but do be careful and do your homework.
JFM posted 07-27-2001 02:31 PM ET (US)
The engine is def. ficht 90 HP, I know the dealer that has it. It was so bad he replaced it, also its no deal at 4,000 without controls or rigging. Also the boat was not good either it was not worth restoring. Ragards, Jay
Bigshot posted 07-27-2001 02:45 PM ET (US)
$4k is steep being you can get a NEW 2002 Yamaha for $5200.
Bigshot posted 07-27-2001 02:48 PM ET (US)
I will post this in MKT place too. Friend has a rebuilt 75hp Yamaha 1995 with a Bobs nosecone and LW p'up with 0 hours on it. Controls, but no prop(available at cost) for around $2k. PTNT too, the 75 is NOT oil injected rom the factory. Located in Tampa Bay area, FL.

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Author	Topic: Value on ropowering Montauk
JFM	posted 07-25-2001 05:09 PM ET (US) I have found a good 1981 Montauk hull powered with a 1981 75HP Merc. with an ok galv. trailer. I have also found a 1999 90 HP Johnson fitch totally upgraded. The total deal will cost about 8500.00 . Do you guys think its worth it? The boat dealers have told me it nuts to repower an old boat, but if the hull can be bought right I tend to disagree with them. Thanks, Jay
gvisko	posted 07-25-2001 06:37 PM ET (US) i paid 6,300 for my 87 montauk with johnson 88 spl and trailer motor was in real good shape i sold the motor and bought new 2001 4 stroke i feel like i have a brand new boat dont listen to dealers gvisko<><
Landlocked	posted 07-25-2001 07:33 PM ET (US) Paid 6,200 for my 77 Montauk rig with a Johnson 85 hp. Motor has seen better days but I wouldn't trade it for anything. When it finally dies I will repower - $$ permitting with a Honda. I plan on keeping this boat for life. Ll.
jimh	posted 07-25-2001 08:10 PM ET (US) A dealer with a showroom full of unsold boats in late July during a very slow sales season is probably not the most unbiased source of an opinion on the value of repowering an old Boston Whaler. It is not unusual for a Whaler to go through three, four, even five or more engines in its lifetime. If the hull is sound and in good condition, it makes very good sense to repower.
whalertim	posted 07-25-2001 08:28 PM ET (US) JFM, I tend to think that you need to look at it in a couple of different ways. 1- If you are going to keep this boat and use it for a long time to come. Then YES! It would be a good idea to repower it and enjoy your classic with a new engin. ON the other hand.2-If you think you might sell her in a couple of years. Well putting a lot of money into a newer engin might be a wast. You really need to look at it from what you want out of your Classic. jimh is correct! Its July, sales are going soft in alot of markets. A salesman wants you to buy new!!! Just my 2 cents Tim NC
JFM	posted 07-25-2001 09:32 PM ET (US) Thanks guys your advice is well taken. Regards,Jay
Eric	posted 07-26-2001 08:56 PM ET (US) Look carefully at the engine, since I don't think there were Ficht Johnsons built in 1999. I've got a 1999 90 Johnson, it is a carb motor. The early ficht motors were both Johnson and Evinrude, but OMC decided to make the former carbed and the latter injected motors. You need to determine when this happened, and what year the motor was really built. I also think that the earliest ficht motors were especially bad. This overall does sound like a good deal, but do be careful and do your homework.
JFM	posted 07-27-2001 02:31 PM ET (US) The engine is def. ficht 90 HP, I know the dealer that has it. It was so bad he replaced it, also its no deal at 4,000 without controls or rigging. Also the boat was not good either it was not worth restoring. Ragards, Jay
Bigshot	posted 07-27-2001 02:45 PM ET (US) $4k is steep being you can get a NEW 2002 Yamaha for $5200.
Bigshot	posted 07-27-2001 02:48 PM ET (US) I will post this in MKT place too. Friend has a rebuilt 75hp Yamaha 1995 with a Bobs nosecone and LW p'up with 0 hours on it. Controls, but no prop(available at cost) for around $2k. PTNT too, the 75 is NOT oil injected rom the factory. Located in Tampa Bay area, FL.