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grizzly posted 09-24-2001 10:43 PM ET (US)
I am considering purchasing a Montauk that comes with the factory option of a full width removable stern seat. I don't think I would choose this option if ordering new, because it is expensive and takes up too much cockpit space. The boat I am considering comes with the seat already installed.
Has anyone had any experience with the stern seat? Here are my questions:
1. What is the retail price of this option?
2. How easy is it to remove the seat?
3. Does the factory or the dealer have to drill holes in the hull to mount the seat?
4. Can anyone make an argument in favour of buying a Montauk equipped with this seat, other than just the additional seating capacity it affords?
5. If I buy the boat and want to sell the seat, is there any market for it on this board or on, say, ebay?
Just curious . . .
Thanks in advance for any advice/opinions.
Dick posted 09-24-2001 11:10 PM ET (US)
Grizzly
I have a 1999 Montauk that I installed the stern seat in. Easy installation and easily removable. It does take up some cockpit space but the wife likes it. List price is around $1300.00 depending on the dealer.
I thing it's a nice addition.
I will e mail you a picture.
Dick
Macman posted 09-25-2001 07:03 AM ET (US)
I have the factory seat as well. I don't care for it much, but the family likes it for sunning, etc. I think that it is a fairly loud and potentially wet ride at higher RPM's.
The good news is that it is simple to remove for fishing, etc. I don't use it much, but it is handy in certain situations.
15to17 posted 09-25-2001 08:53 AM ET (US)
I recently purchased a 1986 Montauk with the stern seat. To me, the seat really sweetened the deal. Although the ride can be wet, it is also probably the smoothest place to sit in any kind of chop. The seat makes the Montauk a truly 7-person boat (not that I have ever taken that many folks out) with seating for everybody.
As for removal, my factory option seat is rather cumbersome and bulky, though it is possible to take it out/put it in by myself. If the boat you are looking at already has the seat, I'd say don't be stymied by it. If you don't want it, you can always put it up for sale on the "Marketplace" page, and (if you can deal with the shipping costs) sell it to any number of folks who I believe would be interested.
JFM posted 09-25-2001 09:44 AM ET (US)
My 2000 Montauk has the seat and the guy I bought the boat from said he paid about $1200 for it. I was at the dealer when he was talking trade and the dealer told him that it wasn't worth any extra on a trade. The dealer offered the guy 14,500 on trade and he was pissed off. The boat also had a bimini and just over 9 hours on a 90HP yamaha. I talked to the guy in the parking lot and he said he paid 23,500 for it a year ago. He had also been to Marine Max in Cleveland and they didn't want to take it in trade. I bought the boat for $16,500 and the seat was the first thing I took out because to me it takes up to much room. Its' mounting plates are bolted to the floor and are epoxied in I think. Unless you plan to take people for a ride I would not get the seat. Regards, Jay
GRMontauk posted 09-25-2001 02:52 PM ET (US)
We just bought a 1996 Montauk and although I agree it takes up space, it is great when you want to take family along for a ride. As mentioned, you can always remove it if you need more space.
Whalerdan posted 09-26-2001 04:54 AM ET (US)
JFM - Interested in selling that seat? Please E-mail me if so.
JFM posted 09-26-2001 08:57 AM ET (US)
I wish as many of you guys that have emailed me about BUYING my seat were as interested in a contribution for jimh. My seat is not for sale. I will evetually need to take the ladies for a ride(mothern-in-law you know). Thanks for your interest. Hey guys I'm sorry for my first remarks, our first check came in this morning for jimh. Regards, Jay
Whalerdan posted 09-27-2001 01:56 AM ET (US)
If you sell it you have an excuse not to bring the ol' girl along. No place for her to sit ;).
JFM posted 09-27-2001 08:40 AM ET (US)
My mother-in-law is great, she is 64 and passes for 40, she always remembers my birthday, she never has anything bad to say about me. If she wants a boat ride I'll put that seat in for her in a minute. Regards, Jay PS: She also is loaded!
Whalerdan posted 09-27-2001 11:23 AM ET (US)
Yep sounds like ya better hang on to that seat!
Dick E posted 09-27-2001 07:20 PM ET (US)
I purchased a new 98 montauk with the stern seat.
There are clips on both sides of the seat with a bolt and a wing nut.
These clips,clip into brackets that are on both sides of the inside of the hull.
Once these clips are in place tighen the wing nut.There is a center supprot leg that you pull down to support the middle of the seat.
If you can carry a 50 lb bag of feed you can do it yourself.
It is no big deal.
There is no holes in the floor only the brackets in the innerside of the hull
I would keep seat for 1 year if not useful sell it.There are always buyers
Dick E
JFM posted 09-28-2001 09:36 AM ET (US)
Dick, don't your brackets secure with screws thruogh the deck? They would have to come out to complete the seat package to the next buyer. I think those screws are heald in with epoxy or 5200. Regards, Jay
Dick posted 09-28-2001 10:36 AM ET (US)
That is correct, my seat has two plates attached to the deck. They have 4 threadwd holes for the thumb screws to hold the seat down. I don't know how they attach them at the factory, I installed my own and used Life Calk on the screws so they can be removed if necessary. No need for epoxy or 5200.
Dick
Dick E posted 09-29-2001 10:20 PM ET (US)
JFM I don't know which Dick you were asking for but Dick E stern seat DOES NOT mount into the deck at all. Brackets are mounted on the inner side of the hull for the stern seat.I just looked at it 2 hours ago.
Hope this helps
Dick E
Macman posted 09-29-2001 11:59 PM ET (US)
My stern seat came from the factory. It is mounted to the gunwales on slide -in brackets and toggle screws with a pull down post......exactly the same as the rig that Dick mentioned. No deck rigging at all. It can be removed or installed in a flash. The fact that it costs $1200 or so as an option is nothing short of criminal.
acseatsri posted 09-30-2001 12:15 AM ET (US)
Well, I guess I'm the odd man out. 18'OR- two stanchions into the floor, plus a bar that goes from gunwale to gunwale, attached to the seatback in 3 places. Not easily removable by any stretch of the imagination.
Dick posted 09-30-2001 08:03 PM ET (US)
I checked my stern seat today, it's a 1999 and made by Emerald City Interiors. I think that the previous models that attached to the sides were made by Dave's Upholstery.
JFM posted 10-01-2001 01:57 PM ET (US)
Regular Dick, my seat is the same as yours (bracket bolts to the deck). The guy I bought the boat from said it was factory. Dick E, I never saw one like yours before. I wonder if some dealers added these differn't seats to generate more$$$. Regards, Jay
GRMontauk posted 10-03-2001 10:50 AM ET (US)
For the sake of interest, my 1996 had the seat as a factory option and it mounts to the hull like Dick E mentioned, not through the deck.
Bullbay posted 10-03-2001 09:25 PM ET (US)
My stern seat is a 120 quart Igloo with a Dave's matching top on it. It holds two comfortably as well as two cases of beer. It is great for moving around in the boat and is excellent for using my down riggers. I have it sitting on a rubber waffle pad. Total investment Cooler - Sams $120 . Matching BW cushion for bow,front cooler and RPS - $300.

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Author	Topic: Montauk removable stern seat
grizzly	posted 09-24-2001 10:43 PM ET (US) I am considering purchasing a Montauk that comes with the factory option of a full width removable stern seat. I don't think I would choose this option if ordering new, because it is expensive and takes up too much cockpit space. The boat I am considering comes with the seat already installed. Has anyone had any experience with the stern seat? Here are my questions: 1. What is the retail price of this option? 2. How easy is it to remove the seat? 3. Does the factory or the dealer have to drill holes in the hull to mount the seat? 4. Can anyone make an argument in favour of buying a Montauk equipped with this seat, other than just the additional seating capacity it affords? 5. If I buy the boat and want to sell the seat, is there any market for it on this board or on, say, ebay? Just curious . . . Thanks in advance for any advice/opinions.
Dick	posted 09-24-2001 11:10 PM ET (US) Grizzly I have a 1999 Montauk that I installed the stern seat in. Easy installation and easily removable. It does take up some cockpit space but the wife likes it. List price is around $1300.00 depending on the dealer. I thing it's a nice addition. I will e mail you a picture. Dick
Macman	posted 09-25-2001 07:03 AM ET (US) I have the factory seat as well. I don't care for it much, but the family likes it for sunning, etc. I think that it is a fairly loud and potentially wet ride at higher RPM's. The good news is that it is simple to remove for fishing, etc. I don't use it much, but it is handy in certain situations.
15to17	posted 09-25-2001 08:53 AM ET (US) I recently purchased a 1986 Montauk with the stern seat. To me, the seat really sweetened the deal. Although the ride can be wet, it is also probably the smoothest place to sit in any kind of chop. The seat makes the Montauk a truly 7-person boat (not that I have ever taken that many folks out) with seating for everybody. As for removal, my factory option seat is rather cumbersome and bulky, though it is possible to take it out/put it in by myself. If the boat you are looking at already has the seat, I'd say don't be stymied by it. If you don't want it, you can always put it up for sale on the "Marketplace" page, and (if you can deal with the shipping costs) sell it to any number of folks who I believe would be interested.
JFM	posted 09-25-2001 09:44 AM ET (US) My 2000 Montauk has the seat and the guy I bought the boat from said he paid about $1200 for it. I was at the dealer when he was talking trade and the dealer told him that it wasn't worth any extra on a trade. The dealer offered the guy 14,500 on trade and he was pissed off. The boat also had a bimini and just over 9 hours on a 90HP yamaha. I talked to the guy in the parking lot and he said he paid 23,500 for it a year ago. He had also been to Marine Max in Cleveland and they didn't want to take it in trade. I bought the boat for $16,500 and the seat was the first thing I took out because to me it takes up to much room. Its' mounting plates are bolted to the floor and are epoxied in I think. Unless you plan to take people for a ride I would not get the seat. Regards, Jay
GRMontauk	posted 09-25-2001 02:52 PM ET (US) We just bought a 1996 Montauk and although I agree it takes up space, it is great when you want to take family along for a ride. As mentioned, you can always remove it if you need more space.
Whalerdan	posted 09-26-2001 04:54 AM ET (US) JFM - Interested in selling that seat? Please E-mail me if so.
JFM	posted 09-26-2001 08:57 AM ET (US) I wish as many of you guys that have emailed me about BUYING my seat were as interested in a contribution for jimh. My seat is not for sale. I will evetually need to take the ladies for a ride(mothern-in-law you know). Thanks for your interest. Hey guys I'm sorry for my first remarks, our first check came in this morning for jimh. Regards, Jay
Whalerdan	posted 09-27-2001 01:56 AM ET (US) If you sell it you have an excuse not to bring the ol' girl along. No place for her to sit ;).
JFM	posted 09-27-2001 08:40 AM ET (US) My mother-in-law is great, she is 64 and passes for 40, she always remembers my birthday, she never has anything bad to say about me. If she wants a boat ride I'll put that seat in for her in a minute. Regards, Jay PS: She also is loaded!
Whalerdan	posted 09-27-2001 11:23 AM ET (US) Yep sounds like ya better hang on to that seat!
Dick E	posted 09-27-2001 07:20 PM ET (US) I purchased a new 98 montauk with the stern seat. There are clips on both sides of the seat with a bolt and a wing nut. These clips,clip into brackets that are on both sides of the inside of the hull. Once these clips are in place tighen the wing nut.There is a center supprot leg that you pull down to support the middle of the seat. If you can carry a 50 lb bag of feed you can do it yourself. It is no big deal. There is no holes in the floor only the brackets in the innerside of the hull I would keep seat for 1 year if not useful sell it.There are always buyers Dick E
JFM	posted 09-28-2001 09:36 AM ET (US) Dick, don't your brackets secure with screws thruogh the deck? They would have to come out to complete the seat package to the next buyer. I think those screws are heald in with epoxy or 5200. Regards, Jay
Dick	posted 09-28-2001 10:36 AM ET (US) That is correct, my seat has two plates attached to the deck. They have 4 threadwd holes for the thumb screws to hold the seat down. I don't know how they attach them at the factory, I installed my own and used Life Calk on the screws so they can be removed if necessary. No need for epoxy or 5200. Dick
Dick E	posted 09-29-2001 10:20 PM ET (US) JFM I don't know which Dick you were asking for but Dick E stern seat DOES NOT mount into the deck at all. Brackets are mounted on the inner side of the hull for the stern seat.I just looked at it 2 hours ago. Hope this helps Dick E
Macman	posted 09-29-2001 11:59 PM ET (US) My stern seat came from the factory. It is mounted to the gunwales on slide -in brackets and toggle screws with a pull down post......exactly the same as the rig that Dick mentioned. No deck rigging at all. It can be removed or installed in a flash. The fact that it costs $1200 or so as an option is nothing short of criminal.
acseatsri	posted 09-30-2001 12:15 AM ET (US) Well, I guess I'm the odd man out. 18'OR- two stanchions into the floor, plus a bar that goes from gunwale to gunwale, attached to the seatback in 3 places. Not easily removable by any stretch of the imagination.
Dick	posted 09-30-2001 08:03 PM ET (US) I checked my stern seat today, it's a 1999 and made by Emerald City Interiors. I think that the previous models that attached to the sides were made by Dave's Upholstery.
JFM	posted 10-01-2001 01:57 PM ET (US) Regular Dick, my seat is the same as yours (bracket bolts to the deck). The guy I bought the boat from said it was factory. Dick E, I never saw one like yours before. I wonder if some dealers added these differn't seats to generate more$$$. Regards, Jay
GRMontauk	posted 10-03-2001 10:50 AM ET (US) For the sake of interest, my 1996 had the seat as a factory option and it mounts to the hull like Dick E mentioned, not through the deck.
Bullbay	posted 10-03-2001 09:25 PM ET (US) My stern seat is a 120 quart Igloo with a Dave's matching top on it. It holds two comfortably as well as two cases of beer. It is great for moving around in the boat and is excellent for using my down riggers. I have it sitting on a rubber waffle pad. Total investment Cooler - Sams $120 . Matching BW cushion for bow,front cooler and RPS - $300.