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grizzly posted 09-27-2001 03:27 PM ET (US)
I am going to look at one of these boats this weekend. Vendor says in good shape. No engine, bottom painted, original gelcoat, no trailer.
What should I look out for on this model? I have read the guidelines for purchasing a used Whaler on this board in the reference section, but am interested in any quirks for this model.
Am I correct in assuming this boat would need at least a 150 HP outboard (single) to perform satisfactorily?
Thanks in advance for all info/opinions/advice.
lhg posted 09-27-2001 05:20 PM ET (US)
I would proceed cautiously on any Outrage/Revenge 20' hull 1978-1984. This was the original V-series Hull, and it could have used a deeper V, as the later designs all had. I understand they are quite hard riding, although better riding than the previous 19 & 21 models. They all had a particular porpoising problem when powered with OMC engines (which have inadequate trim tuck-in), so I would avoid that particular combination unless transom wedges are installed. Other than the ride characteristics, they were the beginning of the now-Classic 2nd generation Outrages, and are nice looking boats. But if you must have a 20' Revenge, I would seriously consider finding a 1985-1989, built on the superior 22 Outrage hull.
grizzly posted 09-28-2001 07:55 AM ET (US)
Thanks for the advice lhg. I am now inclined to pass on this boat, particularly after I priced the cost of a new engine (the boat has no engine). With a new engine, 75% of my investment would be in the engine and only 25% in the boat, which makes no sense to me.
One other option I am considering is a new Montauk (I realize it's a completely different boat from the Revenge). With a new Montauk, 75% of my investment would be in the boat (slow to depreciate) and 25% in the engine. This makes more sense to me.
Chris J posted 09-28-2001 11:14 AM ET (US)
I have a 1981 Revenge 20 with a 150 Evinrude and it behaves OK... I do have to trim nearly all the way in to get the bow down but no porposing problem. I won't comment on the ride since I haven't much experience with later model BWs. With the 150 it does about 35 kts. A smaller motor might work but would be marginal. I'd say 4 strokes are out due to the weight.
Drisney posted 09-30-2001 07:11 PM ET (US)
Have you considered a used engine? 2 strokes on the west coast can be had used rather reasonably.....Dave

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Author	Topic: 1983 Revenge 20
grizzly	posted 09-27-2001 03:27 PM ET (US) I am going to look at one of these boats this weekend. Vendor says in good shape. No engine, bottom painted, original gelcoat, no trailer. What should I look out for on this model? I have read the guidelines for purchasing a used Whaler on this board in the reference section, but am interested in any quirks for this model. Am I correct in assuming this boat would need at least a 150 HP outboard (single) to perform satisfactorily? Thanks in advance for all info/opinions/advice.
lhg	posted 09-27-2001 05:20 PM ET (US) I would proceed cautiously on any Outrage/Revenge 20' hull 1978-1984. This was the original V-series Hull, and it could have used a deeper V, as the later designs all had. I understand they are quite hard riding, although better riding than the previous 19 & 21 models. They all had a particular porpoising problem when powered with OMC engines (which have inadequate trim tuck-in), so I would avoid that particular combination unless transom wedges are installed. Other than the ride characteristics, they were the beginning of the now-Classic 2nd generation Outrages, and are nice looking boats. But if you must have a 20' Revenge, I would seriously consider finding a 1985-1989, built on the superior 22 Outrage hull.
grizzly	posted 09-28-2001 07:55 AM ET (US) Thanks for the advice lhg. I am now inclined to pass on this boat, particularly after I priced the cost of a new engine (the boat has no engine). With a new engine, 75% of my investment would be in the engine and only 25% in the boat, which makes no sense to me. One other option I am considering is a new Montauk (I realize it's a completely different boat from the Revenge). With a new Montauk, 75% of my investment would be in the boat (slow to depreciate) and 25% in the engine. This makes more sense to me.
Chris J	posted 09-28-2001 11:14 AM ET (US) I have a 1981 Revenge 20 with a 150 Evinrude and it behaves OK... I do have to trim nearly all the way in to get the bow down but no porposing problem. I won't comment on the ride since I haven't much experience with later model BWs. With the 150 it does about 35 kts. A smaller motor might work but would be marginal. I'd say 4 strokes are out due to the weight.
Drisney	posted 09-30-2001 07:11 PM ET (US) Have you considered a used engine? 2 strokes on the west coast can be had used rather reasonably.....Dave