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thunderbay posted 09-28-2001 01:17 AM ET (US)
Saw an old one the other day just sitting, can't find any info in the reference section on it. Any ideas of when they started, etc. What would a reasonable offer be considering it appears to have not moved in a long time?? Thanks, and just for kicks, my lil 13 ft with its 30 year old 20 hp brought me, the wife, two kids, all our stuff and towed a 21 ft boat with a big ole brand new seized up merc engine, two guys, and there stuff, a good 5 miles to the dock! What a site that was!
acseatsri posted 09-29-2001 09:51 AM ET (US)
Just curious, was it an Optimax? And Jurisprudence, how's your battle with Mercury coming along?
thunderbay posted 09-30-2001 12:13 AM ET (US)
dont know if its an optimax, just know its big, black, shiny, and heavy!
Drisney posted 09-30-2001 07:01 PM ET (US)
As far as I have learned so far......they started the Revenge in 1974. It was available with omc or mercruiser power. Either outboard or I/O. As for an offer...how long is it? I am looking at a 19 ft in good ..not excellent shape for $8,000 it has been retrofitted with a diesel on the I/O....oh yes....the 1974 model does not have the "V" berth under the forward. It is simply dry storage, I don't know what year the berth was put in....good luck, Dave
jimh posted 10-02-2001 01:12 AM ET (US)
Whaler used the model name "Revenge" with two series of boats. The later Revenges are the well-known cuddy cabin boats. You can see an example of this style in CETACEA at Page 20, which features my own boat, continuousWave.
The earlier REVENGE name badge was used on a Whaler that these days would more likely be called a dual console. Although there was space under the foredeck, I would not consider using it for sleeping, unless you were fond of clausterphobia.
These dual-console Revenges had several seating options, including one arrangement that had a porta-potti under the port seat. Their hull was similar to the early 19-foot/21-foot Outrage hull, a rather shallow vee hull with the Whaler twin sponsons or runners.
Early last summer (2000) I looked at a Revenge-21 that was on auction on eBay. It ultimately sold for about $14,000, although that was back in those care free days of the DOW at 12,000 and no terrorists. I don't think you could get that price today in today's market. It was on a new trailer and had a 200 HP Merc.
Another very nice 21-Revenge was sold by a local fellow sight-unseen for $11,000. It was a well cared for boat, and I was going to look at it when a buyer sent a check for the asking price without even seeing the boat. Again, I wonder if that would happen in October of 2001. This boat had an older Evenrude 135 and no trailer.
With any boat, someone will always have a story of a perfect boat sold at a fraction of the price. You have to look at a boat and its price and see if it makes sense for you.
--jimh

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Author	Topic: 21 ft Revenge question...
thunderbay	posted 09-28-2001 01:17 AM ET (US) Saw an old one the other day just sitting, can't find any info in the reference section on it. Any ideas of when they started, etc. What would a reasonable offer be considering it appears to have not moved in a long time?? Thanks, and just for kicks, my lil 13 ft with its 30 year old 20 hp brought me, the wife, two kids, all our stuff and towed a 21 ft boat with a big ole brand new seized up merc engine, two guys, and there stuff, a good 5 miles to the dock! What a site that was!
acseatsri	posted 09-29-2001 09:51 AM ET (US) Just curious, was it an Optimax? And Jurisprudence, how's your battle with Mercury coming along?
thunderbay	posted 09-30-2001 12:13 AM ET (US) dont know if its an optimax, just know its big, black, shiny, and heavy!
Drisney	posted 09-30-2001 07:01 PM ET (US) As far as I have learned so far......they started the Revenge in 1974. It was available with omc or mercruiser power. Either outboard or I/O. As for an offer...how long is it? I am looking at a 19 ft in good ..not excellent shape for $8,000 it has been retrofitted with a diesel on the I/O....oh yes....the 1974 model does not have the "V" berth under the forward. It is simply dry storage, I don't know what year the berth was put in....good luck, Dave
jimh	posted 10-02-2001 01:12 AM ET (US) Whaler used the model name "Revenge" with two series of boats. The later Revenges are the well-known cuddy cabin boats. You can see an example of this style in CETACEA at Page 20, which features my own boat, continuousWave. The earlier REVENGE name badge was used on a Whaler that these days would more likely be called a dual console. Although there was space under the foredeck, I would not consider using it for sleeping, unless you were fond of clausterphobia. These dual-console Revenges had several seating options, including one arrangement that had a porta-potti under the port seat. Their hull was similar to the early 19-foot/21-foot Outrage hull, a rather shallow vee hull with the Whaler twin sponsons or runners. Early last summer (2000) I looked at a Revenge-21 that was on auction on eBay. It ultimately sold for about $14,000, although that was back in those care free days of the DOW at 12,000 and no terrorists. I don't think you could get that price today in today's market. It was on a new trailer and had a 200 HP Merc. Another very nice 21-Revenge was sold by a local fellow sight-unseen for $11,000. It was a well cared for boat, and I was going to look at it when a buyer sent a check for the asking price without even seeing the boat. Again, I wonder if that would happen in October of 2001. This boat had an older Evenrude 135 and no trailer. With any boat, someone will always have a story of a perfect boat sold at a fraction of the price. You have to look at a boat and its price and see if it makes sense for you. --jimh