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posted 10-25-2001 02:29 PM ET (US)
Where oh where is team extreem and their digital camera when we need them? (See Cetacea)
LAKE MICHIGAN FORECAST
FOR WATERS BEYOND FIVE NAUTICAL MILES FROM SHORE
.SYNOPSIS...AN INTENSE LOW PRESSURE OF 28.85 INCHES OVER THE NORTH
...STORM WARNING IN EFFECT...
THIS AFTERNOON...SOUTHWEST GALES TO 45 KNOTS INCREASING TO STORM
...STORM WARNING IN EFFECT...
THIS AFTERNOON...STORM FORCE SOUTHWEST WINDS TO 50 KNOTS BECOMING
posted 10-25-2001 02:36 PM ET (US)
Maybe I'll head to Fla. sooner than Thankgiving!!! Jay
posted 10-25-2001 02:42 PM ET (US)
That's what I'm saying!!
I'm looking out the window of my office at Chicago Harbor right now...you can see the "rowdy boys" out in the middle of the lake, doing what they do best. The Michigan shoreline must be getting pounded right now.
Don't know about you, but 16-22 footers in a whaler might be a little much...unsinkable or no. I guess you could strap yourself to the boat like the coasties do out at Cape Dissapointment.
posted 10-25-2001 02:50 PM ET (US)
Guess a storm system (maybe even stronger) like this one sunk the Reuben James -- and I believe it was in the last part of October --
posted 10-25-2001 03:03 PM ET (US)
Of course it was Lake Superior not Michigan will have to check on Superior's condition ---
Buckda unsinkable maybe that doesn't mean it wouldn't/couldn't tear a Whaler to pieces!
posted 10-25-2001 03:45 PM ET (US)
Same goes for Milwaukee. It's rough out there. I am heading up to Door County this weekend. I guess I will leave the Whaler at home. Northwest gusts to 60 knots that's serious. I have lived on Lake Michigan for 30 years and waves over 20 feet are rarely seen.
posted 10-25-2001 04:04 PM ET (US)
I'm sure the Lake Michigan hardcore surf contingent are waxing their boards and just waiting for the wind to back off....(yes, those guy really do exist!)
posted 10-25-2001 05:38 PM ET (US)
Sugar Land, Texas 79 and sunny.
posted 10-25-2001 07:30 PM ET (US)
For those of you who may be interested in real time data from the weather bouy network in the lakes, check this URL:
posted 10-25-2001 09:58 PM ET (US)
I just checked Steamer Lane here in Santa Cruz and the waves are waist high with poor shape. Meanwhile, the eastern shorelines of the Great Lakes are going off! Check the swell model at http://www.kacm.com/Today.html
Just so you all know I'm not making this business about lake surfing up,
Let's see, if I start driving now, I could probably dawn patrol by Monday morning....
posted 10-26-2001 02:25 AM ET (US)
andygere - When I live in California I worked second shift and surfed EVERY morning the ocean (HB usually, trussles, San Clemente, County Line) gave waves at least big enough to stand up on. Usually we had wave at least chest high and at least a couple time a month they were pretty damn big. I've lived in Charleston for three years and I tell you surfing here is a BIG let down compared to Cali. You just don't get the ADRENALINE RUSH. The waves here are usually so wimpy and, to me, not worth the time and trouble. I told a friend of mine I use to surf with all the time the samething after I moved here. He said I was just getting old and that HE would never stop surfing (typical addict, like I was). Well guess what? He has now move here too!! He tried to surf for the first six months or so, but his board is so dusty you could write you name on it.
My point is, yea they do what they call surfing on the Great Lakes. But it ain't surfing the way you know it up there in steamer lane. Different game altogether.
posted 10-26-2001 05:56 AM ET (US)
The old man had a very senior moment --
I have no idea why I was thinking it was the Reuben James which was sunk off Iceland, duh really loosing the old head ---
Anyway here is a site which might be of interest to compare weather conditions for this GS storm and the one which caused the sinking of the SS Edmund Fitzgerald in Nov. 1975 --
Sorry about the error -- interesting though since no one picked it up -- guess the age group is younger than imagined on the forum :)
posted 10-26-2001 07:11 AM ET (US)
A strong cold front will move through South Florida by this afternoon. High pressure will build behind the front Saturday through Monday.
This is my 4th weekend waiting w/ my boat ready
posted 10-26-2001 09:48 AM ET (US)
Mike, get her over to the West coast. been absolutely beautiful here until last night. 80's sunny, god I hate Florida:)
posted 10-26-2001 11:04 AM ET (US)
I grew up surfing on the east coast (Cape Cod, Rhode Island), so I know what you mean about the differece between that and CA surf. There are very few unridable days in Santa Cruz, and there are a few spots just up the North Coast that always have a little bump even when town is flat. Nevertheless, I admire the hardcore attitude of those Great Lakes guys. I hope they're all scoring on this big "swell".
posted 10-26-2001 12:00 PM ET (US)
Wish I could hang and argue the virtues of winter but the Threshers are in and I'm going fishing. (Wonder why I left Chicago?)
posted 10-26-2001 12:21 PM ET (US)
For those wishing to head to Florida, the forecast for the Panhandle is as follows:
.SATURDAY NIGHT...CLEAR AND COLD...WITH NEAR RECORD LOW TEMPERATURES. LOWS NEAR 30 WITH AREAS OF FROST.
.SUNDAY...SUNNY...BREEZY AND COOL. HIGHS NEAR 60.
.SUNDAY NIGHT...CLEAR AND COOL. LOWS IN THE MID TO UPPER 30S WITH SCATTERED FROST.
Gulfstream this weekend is supposed to be 10'-15' due to the North Wind, looks like 5' on the bouys now. The bouys are already reporting 5'-9' on some of the Gulf of Mexico. Not a good boating weekend here either. :)
posted 10-26-2001 01:45 PM ET (US)
If you want to see what REAL boating on the Great Lakes is like, check out the St. Joe, Mich. web cam. Kinda' ugly out there right now. http://www.qtm.net/sjwebcam/.
posted 10-26-2001 01:48 PM ET (US)
I thought you might be talking about the Edmund Fitzgerald, but didn't want to be disrespectful in front of all these nice people.
posted 10-26-2001 01:55 PM ET (US)
Same with me Tom. Respect your elders. I grew up with Gordon Lighfoot.
Plus, you would have flamed me if I was wrong.
posted 10-26-2001 02:14 PM ET (US)
Larry, then I'm suprised you didn't remember Donavan's "Hurdy Gurdy Man"! I forgot that was before Gordon Lightfoot was born. It's Hades to get old. Jay
posted 10-26-2001 02:42 PM ET (US)
Dave thank you for being so gracious very kind of you.
Sherman thank you for respecting your elders young man ---- you grew up with Lightfoot thought you were an American -- dodge Vietnam in Canada did you :) heh heh -- just kidding --- actually Larry a good friends brother who I knew in just in passing since he did move to Canada to dodge the VC program played 5 string guitar back up for Gordon for quite a few years --- fellow named David Ray originally from Akron OH ---
Jay, Donovan --- HG_MAN = ok but Catch the Wind and Sunshine Superman are my favorites --- Sunshine came softly thru my window today- it's going to take time I know it -- but I'm here to stay -----------when you make your mind up ------- must admit he did do Car Car -- riding in my car-- by Woodie Guthrie super
Just now listening to a 36 song CD which I burned of Ian and Sylvia numbers I think are top hat ( maybe should say top cowboy hat) --- Tom
posted 10-26-2001 02:52 PM ET (US)
Oh you'd never want to hear me sing -- can't carry a tune in a bucket --
Reason why I did the Sunshine short verse was to keep this post on track about the WEATHER --- heh heh -- JimH might get a tad up tight if we started a hoot'n annie under a WEATHER topic --- sunshine = weather = get it !!!!!!!!! Z
posted 10-26-2001 03:05 PM ET (US)
As I'm taking a break from work, I'm watching it snow from out my home office window in Cleveland, Ohio.
Glad I winterized this past weekend.
posted 10-26-2001 10:57 PM ET (US)
As a Member of "Team Extreme" I must say the weather here ( Holland/Saugatuck MI.) is even a bit much for us to go out in! I work at a marina in Saugatuck, and it`s been all we can do to get boats around to the Haul-out without incident! Surf`s up! We usually get at least one of these "blows" every fall in our area. There`s a lot of boat canvas that will need to be replaced. Hope to get out Sunday. Outraged
posted 10-27-2001 12:04 AM ET (US)
Some threads are out of control from the second post onward!
Big Ian and Silvia fan here.
Anyone have that?
Forecasted lows in the 20's here
posted 10-27-2001 12:32 AM ET (US)
No, but I just got back from a live concert of the same ilk at WMU that blew me away -
Judy Collins, Roger McGuinn, Janice Ian and Ritchie Havens!
Judy can still break glass with her voice; McGuinn's 12-string still rings like a bell, Janice Ian turns out to be about the damnedest female guitar virtuoso I've ever seen, and Ritchie is still...well, Ritchie-
They did a combined effort of Amazing Grace that had the entire audience on their feet singing along through their tears - it was moving.
And bigz, a whole new dimension here - you must have misspent your youth about the same time I did--
posted 10-27-2001 07:33 AM ET (US)
Alert Typo (or brain snap whatever)-- equals David Ray for Lightfoot played a mean 12 string guitar --- my mind goes one way the fingers another --- rarely do they meet.
JimH -- I think I might have Rocks and Gravel on 33-1/3 and if I do probably isn't worth burning a copy since over the centuries and numerous "get togethers" most of mine are pretty beat -- I like them even if the sound isn't quite kosher --- others might go ugh ugh --- ;) --- will check
Kingfish all started off when I was 15 and went to a Sunday night on the gym floor Leadbelly Sr. sing sing get together, then on to St.Marie, Biaz, Collins, Kingston T, Woodie G, Dylan, et al. On the flip side of my elusive brain was the Motown contingent --- Cleveland had the clubs back then, Detroit was to far for weekend travel -- Great times that are all gone it seems these days ---- at least I can still remember each time I flick over the LP turntable arm of those days past -- that in itself is something of a bonus ---
Ok Weather Topic to keep the thread in proper perspective ---- :) === Four Strong Winds that Blow Boldly --- Seven Seas that run high -----
One can't forget the Limelights now can one -------Glen Y's voice is so soothing even when your down he can bring you up to at least a mellow fellow ----
PS did like the California group the Peanut Butter Conspiracy (only two albums). These folks were originally called the Ashes--- an L.A. group which changed their name after acquiring Jim Voigt as drummer and Lance Fent as guitarist. Gary Usher, who worked with the Beach Boys liked them enough to produce their music. Their sound is reminiscent of the Mamas and the Papas (who didn't like/love these folks) they sort of take one back to simpler times, when people believed that all you needed was love, and music came from the heart and soul of the musician--- --- just a little trivia ---
posted 10-27-2001 07:45 AM ET (US)
...all those things that don't change,
come what may...
posted 10-27-2001 09:13 AM ET (US)
Kingfish --- you get me nostalgically bleary eyed ---
JamesH me friend I do have the album R&G with John Herald guitar and Bill Lee and Art Black string bass on Vanguard and it also has Old Blue, CC Rider, Un Canadian Errant, Handsome Molly, Mary Anne is that the one? If so doesn't look terrible maybe if you like will give it shot --- think I might get a program called Pristine Sounds 2000. It can reduce hiss, pops, and static. Bit pricey at $100 but shareware so can try it to see if it works before I plunk out the cash --- We use Adaptec's EasyCD Creator Deluxe to burn --- Tom
posted 10-27-2001 09:23 AM ET (US)
Divide the population of Boston Whaler owners into two groups: those that own Whalers made before 1992 and those that own Whalers made after 1992.
Do you think that the group that owns the older Whalers tends to prefer folk music more than the group that owns the newer Whalers?
These rock/folk lyrics are OK, but you have to go to _real_ classics, like Johnny Mercer, to get stuff like this:
There's a dance pavillion in the rain all shuttered down,
Great lyrics, then have Ella sing them with a Nelson Riddle arrangement. Now you are talking.
On the weather front, the strong westerlies blew all the water out of western Lake Erie. Lake levels in the lower Detroit River were forecasted to drop as much as 50 inches below chart datum. This is below the "critical Level" needed for safe navigation of shipping!
posted 10-27-2001 09:46 AM ET (US)
JimH forget it -- here you can purchase it direct from Vanguard $13.98 go get it --
http://www.vanguardrecords.com/store/Ian.html it's just called Ian and Syliva their first from 1963 --
Johnny Mercer --- well no comment -- must say you did refer to the weather ---
Not to strange, certainly occurs infrequently, to have the west wind blow the water in western Lake Erie and Detroit river out -- however a drop in level of that magnitude is awesome
posted 10-27-2001 10:17 AM ET (US)
Oh dang it again I found a misfortunate goof --- the Rae family close friends of my youthful days would never forgive me for the misspelling of Rae -- to the common form Ray -- shame on me ---
Larry S, since your a Lightfoot fan here is a little trivia about David Rae and his association with Gordon http://www.chiefseattle.com/david/ thought you might enjoy if your still reading this degenerate post threads --- Tom
posted 10-27-2001 05:36 PM ET (US)
As the digital camera guy of "Team Extreem", I am sorry to report that I have no pictures to send in. The lake conditions were just too severe to contemplate going out. The Reliant is still in her slip at the marina and it was a very nervous couple of days doubling mooring lines and worrying that the floating per she was tethered to would be broken apart in the blow. An 80-foot tour boat slipped her lines and crashed through some empty finger piers before going aground a little ways downwind of where the Reliant is slipped. A big thank you to my friends who kept an eye on the Reliant over the past several days.
This thread is interesting to me because of the very reason that I chose to not go out. Over the past few years as my friends and I have gotten into the late season boating thing, my girlfriend and family have expressed concerns that we were going to get into trouble boating during the season of storms on the Great Lakes. I always assured them that we watched the weather very closely and that I had no whish to end up as a dead legend sung about in some song of tragedy on the great lakes. So I find it interesting that a thread that started out asking where “Team Extreem” was turned into one about these very songs.
I feel the need to salute the workers of my marina. As I nervously checked my dock lines for wear and pumped my bilges, I watched as the workers braved slippery docks, 60 mile an hour winds, driving rain and snow to protect all the boats still in the slips. On the pier across from mine, a 50-foot cabin cruiser broke most of her dock lines and started to swing precariously out of her slip. I watched as the marina people risked their own necks to wrestle this 50-foot behemoth back into the slip and throw extra lines on her. This is apart of the marina business that most people do not see and it certainly opened my eyes to the dedication of the workers. Thank you.
posted 10-28-2001 12:11 AM ET (US)
I hate to do this, but it was 98!!!!! today, and the top of the ballpark was wide open for the Diamondbacks game. I was dragging my now older and heavier frame over some mountain ridges (that didn't used to be that steep) in search of the elusive mule deer. It is really just too warm for hunting. I think I may load up the 13 tomorrow and try an amphibious landing. At least I can walk downhill to the boat when I get tired. Dave
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